Posted by: Damon Whitsell | August 7, 2015

The “Repent of Your Sins” Heresy in the Word of Faith Movement

I am posting this video because this particular damnable heresy is endemic in the Word of Faith movement.  In fact many WoFers merely think they are saved because they do not understand repentance. Watch this video and read my recent writing on repentance below.


Let’s start with some words of Christ Himself.

Luk 13:1-5, 1 There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. 2 And Jesus answering said unto them, SUPPOSE YE that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things? 3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. 4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

What was Jesus saying to those present? First, because our modern dictionaries define repentance and other words according to how the words are used and not necessarily what they mean according to  their historical meaning and root words, we must biblically define repentance.
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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | August 7, 2015

Exporting Word of Faith Teaching from Africa

: Jacob Olupona (African Religions, 118-9) tells the remarkable story of Rev. Sunday Adelaja and the Word of Faith Bible Church of Kiev:

“Adelaja, a Nigerian, initially and somewhat to his dismay found himself in Belarus (then part of the Soviet Union) on a scholarship to study journalism. While in Belarus, Adelaja helped to found a number of underground churches. Deported by the KGB for his religious activities, Adelaja went to Ukraine at the invitation of Jeff Davis, a traveling evangelist who was doing television ministry and needed someone familiar with the language who could represent his interests. From this beginning in Ukraine as a television evangelist, Adelaja began the process of founding churches. In 1994, the first Word of Faith Bible Church was founded. The result is that from his small beginning as the head of a Bible study group, Adelaja now is in charge of the larges church in Ukraine, which has twenty thousand members at its central location and hosts twenty services every Sunday in various auditoriums throughout Kiev. There are hundreds of daughter churches of the Embassy of God – the current name of the church – throughout Ukraine, the former Soviet Union, Europe, the United States, and even Israel. Adelaja is one of the most powerful figures in  Ukraine and is credited, among other things, with aiding in the election of the mayor of Kiev.”

Not surprisingly, “Adelaja’s missionary work has permanently altered the religious landscape of Eastern Europe, instilling African religious sensibilities in a region that had previously been a religious vacuum.”

The gold-gilded onion domes around Kiev belie the last part of that statement. Ukraine is hardly a religious “vacuum,” though Olupona is right to suggest that Adelaja has introduced something quite new into the mix.

The Word of Faith preachers preach that Jesus went to hell, died spiritually and got born again in hell. This is blasphemy!!!. Jesus, on the cross, said: ‘It is finished.” He did not need to go to hell to be punished. These are false teachers and false prophets.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | August 4, 2015

“Pastor” Joel Osteen by the Numbers and Statistics.

SOURCE: Last year, business blogger Brandon Gaille assembled a nifty graphic breaking down how Houston megachurch pastor Joel Osteen of Lakewood Church rose to become one of the most influential Christians in America today. Some of the more interesting factoids include:

  • $56.5 million – Reported net worth.

    $56.5 million – Reported net worth. Photo: Cooper Neill, Getty Images / 2013 Cooper Neill

    Photo: Cooper Neill, Getty Images
  • 1999 – Year Joel Osteen took over Lakewood for his deceased father John Osteen.

    1999 – Year Joel Osteen took over Lakewood for his deceased father John Osteen. Photo: Lakewood Church / handout

    Photo: Lakewood Church
  • 8,000 – Members of Lakewood the year Osteen took the helm of Lakewood.

    8,000 – Members of Lakewood the year Osteen took the helm of Lakewood. Photo: Manuel M. Chavez, Houston Chronicle / Houston Post files

    Photo: Manuel M. Chavez, Houston Chronicle
  • 43,500 – Members of Lakewood Church, making it the largest megachurch body in America. (Second place North Point Ministries in Alpharetta, Georgia has 30,629.)

    43,500 – Members of Lakewood Church, making it the largest megachurch body in America. (Second place North Point Ministries in Alpharetta, Georgia has 30,629.) Photo: Billy Smith II, Houston Chronicle / Houston Chronicle

    Photo: Billy Smith II, Houston Chronicle
  • 16,000 – seating capacity of Osteen’s basketball arena-turned-church, Lakewood. The former Compaq Center was home to the world champion Houston Rockets squads of the 1990s.

    16,000 – seating capacity of Osteen's basketball arena-turned-church, Lakewood. The former Compaq Center was home to the world champion Houston Rockets squads of the 1990s. Photo: Nick De La Torre, Houston Chronicle / © 2010 Houston Chronicle

    Photo: Nick De La Torre, Houston Chronicle
  • $70 million – Lakewood’s reported annual budget.

    $70 million – Lakewood's reported annual budget. Photo: Nick De La Torre, Houston Chronicle / © 2010 Houston Chronicle

    Photo: Nick De La Torre, Houston Chronicle
  • $0 – Osteen’s reported salary from Lakewood.

    $0 – Osteen's reported salary from Lakewood. Photo: Dominic Burke, Getty Images / (c) Dominic Burke

    Photo: Dominic Burke, Getty Images
  • $55 million – Reported sales of his five best-selling books and other works.

    $55 million – Reported sales of his five best-selling books and other works. Photo: Jeffrey Ufberg, WireImage / 2011 Jeffrey Ufberg

    Photo: Jeffrey Ufberg, WireImage
  • $30 million – Reported amount of donations mailed in each year.

    $30 million – Reported amount of donations mailed in each year. Photo: Justin Sullivan, Getty Images / 2011 Getty Images

    Photo: Justin Sullivan, Getty Images
  • 5 – Continents on which Osteen has spoken in stadiums: North America, Africa, Asia, Australia and Europe. (Be on the lookout South America and Antarctica).

    5 – Continents on which Osteen has spoken in stadiums: North America, Africa, Asia, Australia and Europe. (Be on the lookout South America and Antarctica). Photo: The Washington Post, The Washington Post/Getty Images / 2011 The Washington Post

    Photo: The Washington Post, The Washington Post/Getty Images
  • $0 – Amount Lakewood contributes to his hotel bills. Osteen reportedly always picks up the tab out of his own pocket.

    $0 – Amount Lakewood contributes to his hotel bills. Osteen reportedly always picks up the tab out of his own pocket. Photo: Peter Dazeley, Getty Images / (c) Peter Dazeley

    Photo: Peter Dazeley, Getty Images
  • 7.1 million – ‘Likes’ of the Joel Osteen Ministries Facebook page. After America, the countries with the most fans are Kenya, South Africa, the Phillipines, Nigeria and Canada.

    7.1 million – 'Likes' of the Joel Osteen Ministries Facebook page. After America, the countries with the most fans are Kenya, South Africa, the Phillipines, Nigeria and Canada. Photo: Dimitri Vervitsiotis, Getty Images / (c) Dimitri Vervitsiotis

    Photo: Dimitri Vervitsiotis, Getty Images
  • 2.69 million – Followers on Twitter. Since joining in February 2009, he has tweeted 11,200 times, posted 24 photos and videos and is following 160 other Twitter users.

    2.69 million – Followers on Twitter. Since joining in February 2009, he has tweeted 11,200 times, posted 24 photos and videos and is following 160 other Twitter users. Photo: Bethany Clarke, Getty Images / 2013 Getty Images

    Photo: Bethany Clarke, Getty Images
  • 2.5 million – Copies reportedly sold of his first book, “Your Best Life Now.”

    2.5 million – Copies reportedly sold of his first book, "Your Best Life Now."

  • 7+ million – Weekly viewers of Osteen’s TV ministry.

    7+ million – Weekly viewers of Osteen's TV ministry. Photo: Nick De La Torre, Houston Chronicle / © 2010 Houston Chronicle

    Photo: Nick De La Torre, Houston Chronicle
  • 17 – Years worked in production of his father’s TV ministry.

    17 – Years worked in production of his father's TV ministry. Photo: Pam Francis, Getty Images / Pam Francis 2005

    Photo: Pam Francis, Getty Images
  • 3 – Osteen’s rank among most popular TV evangelists, behind Billy Graham (pictured) and Rick Warren.

    3 – Osteen's rank among most popular TV evangelists, behind Billy Graham (pictured) and Rick Warren. Photo: Mario Tama, Getty Images / 2005 Getty Images

    Photo: Mario Tama, Getty Images
  • 10.5 million – weekly downloads of Osteen’s podcast on iTunes.

    10.5 million – weekly downloads of Osteen's podcast on iTunes.

 Photo: Alan Tucker, Getty Images/Flickr RF / Flickr RF

    Photo: Alan Tucker, Getty Images/Flickr RF
  • 100+ – Nations in which Osteen’s TV ministry is broadcast.

  • $43 million – Amount his services reportedly net each year.

    $43 million – Amount his services reportedly net each year. Photo: Design Pics / SW Productions, Getty Images / (c) Design Pics / SW Productions

    Photo: Design Pics / SW Productions, Getty Images



Posted by: Damon Whitsell | July 23, 2015

Did Jesus Really Descend into Hell? by Hank Hanegraaff

Hank answers a question about whether or not the Bible teaches Jesus descended into hell as is affirmed in The Apostles’ Creed.

Ex- faith healer Mark Haville does a great job of comparing the miracles of Jesus in the Gospel of Mark to the Lying Signs and Wonders done by modern day faith healers. Mark has also produced a really really good video called The Signs and Wonders Movement Exposed that is no longer available on Youtube. I will keep an eye for it to get re-uploaded and post it again then. For now if you would like to hear an audio interview and article where Haville explains the tricks of the fake faith healing trade, you can do so here.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | July 4, 2015

Joel Osteen and Satanism in the Church

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law” – Aleister Crowley

When I first read the title of this video I thought it was outlandish but I watched it anyway. I got turned off by the guy using a Hebrew name for Jesus so I turned the video off and did not watch all of it. But months later I watched the whole video and I have to agree. There is much Satanism in the Christian Church and Joel Osteen is one of it’s high-priest. But this video is not just about Osteen. It is about the philosophy of Satanism in the church. Here are some reasons I agree with the video.

First the Word of Faith teaching of Positive Confession is very New Age and is really witchcraft cloaked in Christian terms. And clearly many in the church think that Satan is not a literal person or figure, statistics bear this out. And that my friends is the most prominent feature of Satanism – the idea that Satan is just a personification of evil traits. And certainly nobody teaches, inadvertently at least, the exaltation of self and mankind like Joel Osteen does. His gospel is the gospel of me, myself and I. And that is very essence of Satan and the Satanist gospel.

Everyone who pays attention knows that Osteen does not say anything about Sin, the Devil and Hell. And if you pay attention you will notice that he does often betray “the enemy” (ie, the Devil) as faulty characteristics of ourselves. And that is very much Satanism and Joel Osteen is a big influence in bringing this Satanism (satanic philosophy) into the church. And by not preaching on Sin and Hell,, he might as well be endorsing the words of Aleister Crowley that I opened this post with, “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law”

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | July 3, 2015

How to be a Famous Preacher by Mark

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SOURCE: 1. Be a good public speaker. Express emotion: either be very good at anger, or weep copiously, or smile successfully. Wear the right outfit for your target audience: a Rolex,  leather, tattoos, an Armani suit, whatever cardboard caricature impresses your particular constituents and will make them quit changing channels and watch you. Use a stage set that is part of your presentation: The most successful Christian TV show in the 1980s used French provincial living room furniture with an ornate staircase.

Another successful goateed speaker of the 1980s, Francis Schaeffer, dressed in early 20th century knee breeches to hike across Europe and speak about how the great European artists preached their version of religion, juxtaposed with the true Christian religion.

2. Be able to take a conversion or an answered prayer story and tell it dramatically. Tell only the details that support your premise. Leave out the details that disprove your premise. Don’t be above exaggeration. Edith Schaeffer wrote how their prayers as missionaries in Lausanne, Switzerland, after WW2 were miraculously answered, sometimes down to within a dime of the amount of money they needed to purchase their first L’Abri property.

Her son, in 3 heavily autobiographical novels, tells about how an American missionary family in Lausanne, Switzerland, having purloined the mailing list from their new denominational headquarters in Pennsylvania, sent out glowing reports of their work converting young college atheists in Switzerland, and begging for money for a camp for their evangelism. The denomination demanded the American missionaries cease and desist from using the denomination’s mailing list because their donations dropped precipitously while the L’Abri donations sky-rocketed, but the Schaeffers won the popularity contest and the denomination had to back down.

3. Be able to ask for money easily. Like Rick Warren, be able to make people feel a little bit guilty for not giving money to the mission to convert poor non-Christians in Russia. Pretend you are not begging. “I’m not begging for money, I’m just letting you know how much your contribution to my ministry means to the little orphans in Africa who benefit from it.” Make sure nobody can check on how the money is spent overseas. God told the famous radio preacher, Oral Roberts, that he had to raise 8 million dollars in 3 months or God “would take him home.” He raised the 8 million dollars, which temporarily rescued Oral Roberts University and City of Faith Hospital in Tulsa, Oklahoma from going under.

4. Look like you already have lots of money, and make your ministry look successful. Like the trainer at Edward Jones financial planning said, “Fake it ’til you make it.” When you are becoming a financial planner, nobody wants you to invest their money unless you look like you already invest lots of people’s money. So the trainer advised: “Fake it.” One famous TV preacher (Jerry Falwell, founder of Liberty University) always told his TV viewers that he was speaking to a packed capacity crowd, even when there were very few people present. When speaking to reporters he would over estimate his donor pool mailing list by 300% to exaggerate his influence and the power of the Christian right in the 1980s. Conservative Christians are trained to be loyal and to look the other way when one of their heroes exaggerates (lies).

5. Have a successful looking spouse who looks like he/she is fascinated by what you say. Make sure she isn’t too high strung, so that she can look supportive and fascinated for years, through thick and thin, through unbridled boredom, for richer for poorer, through unfaithfulness and humiliation. Like Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker, have your acts of penance ready for the bumps in the road.  And like Jimmy Lee Swaggart, act out your contritions in high melodrama with tearful appeals to God for forgiveness. Don’t be afraid to be so outlandish that your lives will be parodied on Saturday Night Live. Your constituents operate at a 7th grade level, emotionally and intellectually. Whatever worked in 7th grade, will work to make you a successful pastor. Face lifts are almost required for the TV preachers and their wives over 50.

6. Pretend you’re not bragging. “I don’t want any of the glory for myself, I’m just telling you what the Lord has done in my life.” “I pray four hours per day.” Rick Warren: “My book, The Purpose Driven Life, sold more copies than the top 10 New York Times best sellers combined.” Nevermind that biblical scholars are horrified at how Warren used the scriptures out of context to mean things that the scripture clearly did not mean, the book still was wildly popular.

7. Preach about things that your listeners already believe in. Do not challenge the status quo. Your supporters will be in Fowler’s stage 3 faith, trusting that you will be leading them into the center of the faith. Use the catch phrases and evangelical  or pentecostal lingo that let people know they are part of the in crowd. Like Pat Robertson, find a niche: Create an “Us versus Them” scenario that your supporters can feel righteously indignant about: In the 80s it was abortion and humanism. In the current age it is old evangelicalism versus post-evangelicalism. Or Covenantal Calvinism versus the God who learns as time goes by. Or New Age Buddhism versus the God who cares for us personally.

9. Drop names of famous people you have met: entertainers, politicians, business owners. Like Billy Graham, remain loyal to President Nixon until he turns out to be a sleaze. Like James Dobson, support popular wars and the lost blue collar young men that die in them. It is interesting that Jesus was almost anarchic in the absence of name-dropping of the rich and powerful.

10. Hint at a hierarchical competitive Christian ladder that your listeners can attempt to climb in order to grow in status in the Christian community. “She prays 8 hours per day!”

11. Promise your listeners tacitly that if they follow your teachings their lives will be full of faith and promise, their marriages will be full of love, their children will grow up productive, happy and faithful churchgoers. Make it seem like life is hopeful, predictable and manageable, like all they have to do is reject a couple of popular books, movies and TV shows, or wear the appropriate uniform, or go to the right seminars and their lives will become easy, joyful and successful, maybe even promise them they will be successful in their careers and wealthy, or that all their diseases will be healed.

12. Don’t be too soft hearted. The most successful pastors in America today plow through volunteers and “leave the wounded in their wake” as Christianity Today magazine described James Dobson and his Focus on the Family ministry in the early ’90s. An exterior of a tough Christian pastor that protects a wounded child interior is the best recipe for a successful ministry. A couple of diagnoses from the DSM-V are helpful to the successful pastor as well, the most popular being Bipolar II, and Narcissistic Personality, with a wife who has Histrionic Personality. At the very least you need to be the adult child of an alcoholic parent, even better if the parent was suicidal.

13. Preach hard against sexual sin, but it doesn’t hurt to adopt a little sexual deviancy yourself. Rolling Stone Magazine (1986) reported that a male employee said Jim Bakker extorted blow-jobs from him, and Jimmy Swaggart’s prostitute said she wouldn’t want her kids hanging around Jimmy Swaggart because of the sex acts he liked (mostly watching). This came out after Jimmy Swaggart exposed his main competitor in Baton Rouge for committing adultery. 69% of evangelical men admit using porn in the last month, and 25% of pastors report they are currently having an affair with a member of their congregation.

14. Use your kids as illustrations in your lessons and books. It’s okay to punish them in front of the entire congregation. Make sure they are angry drug-addled sex addicts who want to follow in your footsteps.


SOURCE: HOUSTON – The church goers arrested for heckling Pastor Joel Osteen’s sermon on Sunday at Lakewood Church were in a Houston courtroom on Thursday morning.
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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | June 30, 2015

POETRY by Damon Whitsell


These poems have been online for a long time (THANK YOU SIR). But because the site owner is a mental health advocate with his own mental health issues and he degenerated to where he no longer maintains the site or accepts new poems, I thought I should preserve these and chose to do so here, of all my sites, where they will be most read.

These poems are a peace of my heart and soul. I hope you like them. They are all dedicated to Wesley Glen Whitsell (I DID IT ALL FOR YOU) and DAYBREAK is dedicated to Karen Aldridge who took her own life on June 8th 2015. You are both loved more than you know. Especially Wes, I can guarantee it.

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Posted by: papagiorgio200 | June 9, 2015

Faith Healer Katie Souza’s Craziness (Cult Watch)

God obviously prioritizes the importance of healing peoples personal needs. Why see a doctor for simple treatments of ailments when you can go to Katie Souza… the “family physician” of faith healers:

38000-christian-denominations-good-luck-choosing-the-right-oneIs Christianity really as divided as some people say it is? Are there really around 38,000 differing denominations? These questions are relevant to the Word of Faith movement because its teachers can be quite anti-denominational at times. And since some in the Word of Faith movement such as Kenneth Copeland and Joel Osteen along with the Pope and many others are calling for Charismatics and the Roman Catholic Church to unite, saying the Protestant protest is over, these questions are really important – especially since some claim protestants are “spiritual racist” if they do not desire to unite with the Catholic Church. So I am posting my article answering these questions here for the readers of this blog.


That there are that many denominations is a lie created and propagated by Roman Catholic Apologist claiming there are 38,000 differing “Protestant denominations”. They make this claim to say that the Sola Scriptura of the Protestant Reformation is divisive in nature, protestants are divided so therefore they must be the One True Church. This lie is then repeated by other groups and while the specific number of denominations that may be claimed can be higher or lower than the 38,000 number, this false claim is made often by many groups who claim to be the One True Church.

Roman Catholic apologist get their numbers from the “World Christian Encyclopedia” (WCE) by David B. Barrett. Because the 2,400 page, 2-volume WCE is $320 new, we will have to rely on secondary sources to see why the 38,000 denomination claim is nowhere near true. The two sources we will look at are a book written by a Protestant called “Upon This Slippery Rock: Countering Roman Catholic Claims to Authority” by Eric Svendsen (see an applicable excerpt here), and a “Facts and Stats Sheet” provided by a RCC Apologist where much of the info in the WCE is detailed for us to see. To grasp what I am about to say might require you to spend sometime looking at those last two links. I will refer to these resources as the “Protestant resource” and the “RCC Resource”.

It is readily apparent after studying the RCC resource that the WCE is not really a good resource to determine how many Christian denominations there actually are. Denominations are not defined correctly and are categorized by country, race and other non-helpful sub-categories to show a way over-bloated result.

The RCC resource says the statistics are subdivided into “6 major ecclesiastico-cultural mega-blocs”. Those mega-blocs are Independents (about 22000), Protestants (about 9000), “Marginals” (about 1600), Orthodox (781), Roman Catholics (242) and Anglicans (168). When looking at the first “mega-bloc” we see there are not really 22,000 “independent denominations” there. To come to the 22, 000 number they include “single autonomous congregations”, “isolated radio churches”, “house-church networks” and they use race as a sub-category. In other words there are African, Black American, Filipino, and Indian Apostolics and there are African, Black American and Chinese Charismatics etc. The categories are inappropriate to determine how many denominations there are because they even include “hidden Buddhist believers in Christ” and “hidden Hindu believers in Christ”. All of these 6 major mega-blocs of information have the same problems. And the “marginal” category with “about 1600 denominations” are not really Christian denominations, but Christian pseudo Cults.

To get a better understanding of how many denominations there really are let’s refer to the Protestant resource by Eric Svendsen. Svendsen says in his book Upon This Slippery Rock, “Barrett identifies seven major ecclesiastical “blocs” under which these 22,190 distinct denominations fall (Barrett, 14-15): (1) Roman Catholicism, which accounts for 223 denominations; (2) Protestant, which accounts for 8,196 denominations; (3) Orthodox, which accounts for 580 denominations; (4) Non-White Indigenous, which accounts for 10,956 denominations; (5) Anglican, which accounts for 240 denominations; (6) Marginal Protestant, which includes Jehovah s Witnesses, Mormons, New Age groups, and all cults (Barrett, 14), and which accounts for 1,490 denominations; and (7) Catholic (Non-Roman), which accounts for 504 denominations”.

Svendsen then says “Barrett indicates that what he means by “denomination” is any ecclesial body that retains a “jurisdiction” (i.e., semi-autonomy). As an example, Baptist denominations comprise approximately 321 of the total Protestant figure. In other words, if there are ten Independent Baptist churches in a given city, even though all of them are identical in belief and practice, each one is counted as a separate denomination due to its autonomy in jurisdiction. This same principle applies to all independent or semi-independent denominations. And even beyond this, all Independent Baptist denominations are counted separately from all other Baptist denominations, even though there might not be a dime’s worth of difference among them. The same principle is operative in Barrett’s count of Roman Catholic denominations. He cites 194 Latin-rite denominations in 1970, by which Barrett means separate jurisdictions (or diocese). Again, a distinction is made on the basis of jurisdiction, rather than differing beliefs and practices”.

“However Barrett has defined “denomination,” it is clear that he does not think of these as major distinctions; for that is something he reserves for another category. In addition to the seven major ecclesiastical “blocs” (mentioned above), Barrett breaks down each of these traditions into smaller units that might have significant differences (what he calls “major ecclesiastical traditions,” and what we might normally call a true denomination) (Barrett, 14). Referring again to our seven major ecclesiastical “blocs” (mentioned above, but this time in reverse order): For (1) Catholic (Non-Roman), there are four traditions, including Catholic Apostolic, Reformed Catholic, Old Catholic, and Conservative Catholic; for (2) Marginal Protestants, there are six traditions; for (3) Anglican, there are six traditions; for (4) Non-White Indigenous, which encompasses third-world peoples (among whom can be found traces of Christianity mixed with the major tenets of their indigenous pagan religions), there are twenty traditions, including a branch of Reformed Catholic and a branch of Conservative Catholic; for (5) Orthodox, there are nineteen traditions; for (6) Protestant, there are twenty-one traditions; and for (7) Roman Catholic, there are sixteen traditions, including Latin-rite local, Latin-rite catholic, Latin/Eastern-rite local, Latin/Eastern-rite catholic, Syro-Malabarese, Ukrainian, Romanian, Maronite, Melkite, Chaldean, Ruthenian, Hungarian, plural Oriental rites, Syro-Malankarese, Slovak, and Coptic. It is important to note here that Barrett places these sixteen Roman Catholic traditions (i.e., true denominations) on the very same level as the twenty-one Protestant traditions (i.e., true denominations). In other words, the true count of real denominations within Protestantism is twenty-one, whereas the true count of real denominations within Roman Catholic is sixteen. Combined with the other major ecclesiastical blocs, that puts the total number of actual denominations in the world at ninety-two obviously nowhere near the 23,000 or 25,000 figure that Roman Catholic apologists constantly assert and that figure of ninety-two denominations includes the sixteen denominations of Roman Catholicism (Barrett, 15)!”

To put this into perspective the Protestant resource goes on to say “Roman Catholic apologists have hurriedly, carelessly – and, as a result, irresponsibly – glanced at Barrett’s work, found a large number (22,189), and arrived at all sorts of absurdities that Barrett never concluded”.

To sum up, it is obvious that we cannot determine if the WCE is a good resource to refer to when trying to determine the number of Christian denominations there are actually in the world without buying the massive encyclopedia and studying it in full detail. Without looking at the WCE for ourselves and having to rely on these two best resources I found we cannot know for sure that he is correct when Svendsen’s Protestant resource says that Barret and the WCE went on to further define the number of denominations by defining traditions and “major ecclesiastical traditions” separately to come up with his number of “ninety-two actual denominations”. But that number seems allot more possible and plausible than the obviously over-inflated numbers that RCC apologist and other exclusive authoritarian groups irresponsibly throw around. After all how did you answer the question of “If I were to ask you exactly how many different churches exist in the world today… what would you say?“. You probably guessed allot but not 38,000 denominations “all teaching opposite things”. I thought of less than a dozen differing denominations off the top of my head. How about you?

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | May 19, 2015

Joyce Meyer Blatantly And Deliberately Adding to Gods Word

Sometimes it is very exasperating to see what Word of Faith teachers like Joyce Meyer do. Especially when they blatantly and deliberately ADD to the Word of God to mislead people. In this video originally entitled “Temptation and Self Control” Meyer intentionally ADDS to the Word of God and purposely misquotes the Amplified Bible Version of Galatians 6:8 saying “…but I really like what THE AMPLIFIED says here, it says that if we sow to the spirit you reap LIFE AND LIFE ETERNAL. That says something to me because it doesn’t just mean I that can finally have a great life when I go to heaven, but I can have a good life right here…”

How can I say Joyce is deliberately, intentionally and purposely ADDING to the Word of God? Well folks,, she has her Bible open and is reading directly from the Amplified Version while she quotes verse 7 and part of verse 8, but she does not read or caption the last portion of verse 8 for her audience to read. Why does she not display the whole verse for everyone to read? Because she is adding to the Word of God to justify her “good life” now theology – and to deceive you into buying into it.

Verse 8 in the Amplified actually says “For he who sows to his own flesh (lower nature, sensuality) will from the flesh reap decay and ruin and destruction, but he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life”. It DOES NOT say LIFE AND LIFE ETERNAL and neither do ANY OTHER Bible versions of Galatians 6:8.

This is a blatant and deliberate addition to the Word of God that does not come from God despite the fact that Meyer had said a little prayer to God that he would “…bring things out of me that I don’t even know and speak through me in Jesus name”. I can confidently tell you that it is NOT God that is speaking to you in this video. Rather it is Joyce Meyer and her flesh trying to sow “decay and ruin and destruction” into your life while you think she is trying to help you “Enjoy Everyday Life”.

At around 2:25 Meyer says “the Flesh will always try to get involved in everything you do”. It’s clear that she has not, as she later says, “say no to the Flesh and yes to God”. Because we all know that God did not prompt her to lie and deceive by adding to His Word.

Meyer goes on to say “We must learn to slow down and not just do things impulsively, take a little time to really examine something in the Spirit and determine whether you believe the action your about to take is something that God is initiating, or if it is some bright idea your coming up with”

Friends, do I have to tell you that God did not initiate Meyers actions here but her flesh did and you will reap bad dividends in the end following her “good life” now gospel. Joyce should be closely examining herself, her motivations and her teachings,, and so should you.

Hat-Tip goes to Gabriel Smit for pointing me to this very egregious video.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | May 5, 2015

Robert M. Bowman Radio Interview on the Word of Faith Movement

Apologist Robert Bowman gives a really good radio interview on the Word of Faith movement. Bowman is the author of “The Word-Faith Controversy: Understanding the Health and Wealth Gospel”.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | May 3, 2015

Creflo Dollar Loves What’s In His Pocket by Dan Delzell


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SOURCE: A notorious prosperity preacher from Atlanta has recently come under even more intense criticism. Creflo Dollar asked 200,000 people to donate $300 each in order to raise $65 million to purchase a private jet for his work. Creflo is widely reported to be worth an estimated $27 million.

In spite of the opulence he chooses to lavish on himself, this multimillionaire makes no apology for piling up a personal fortune. Creflo’s appetite for luxury and excessive indulgence seems insatiable.Prosperity preachers could learn a lot from the example of Pastor Rick Warren. Rick is a “reverse tither” who gives away 90% of his income. Few Christians have such strong faith when it comes to their finances, and Creflo Dollar would have to learn how to crawl before he could walk with the likes of Rick Warren.

But Creflo could make great strides if he were to reduce his net worth to say, $2 million dollars, while giving away most of his fortune to the needy. Such generosity would indicate something noble within his heart. Of course it would be even better to reduce his net worth to $200,000. But that would be quite a stretch for a man who has so often boasted of his wealth and material possessions.

Jesus said, “You cannot serve both God and Money.” (Matthew 6:24) The Lord regularly warned people about the love of money.

Creflo Dollar said, “The money in my pocket is not mine, it’s God’s.” But his financial decisions clearly refute that claim. If the money in his pocket truly belonged to God, then Creflo would no longer hoard it. And he wouldn’t continue spending millions of dollars on his materialistic fantasies.

The contents of Creflo’s pocket will continue to speak volumes about the love of his life. Even if he doesn’t give away $15-20 million of his fortune over the next year, he could at least start moving in that honorable direction. The path to godliness and freedom will involve crawling, and then walking, and then running.

But you cannot even crawl without first being born. As Jesus said, “You must be born again.” (John 3:7) This is the foundation of Christianity. Jesus never taught people to pursue material prosperity and store it in their pocket. In fact, Christ taught just the opposite: “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth.” (Matthew 6:19)

Jesus said, “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” (Matthew 19:24) Why? Because most rich people love what is in their pocket, and so they refuse to part with it.

Jesus also said, “For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.” (Matthew 6:21) In other words, what you choose to keep in your pocket reveals the love of your life. You constantly think about your lover because she has your heart. The proof is seen in the accumulation of your possessions. (“your treasure”)

If you want to know what is in someone’s heart, just listen to him speak. Jesus said, “Out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks.” (Matthew 12:34) You would be hard pressed to find a religious leader in America who talks about money and material possessions more than Creflo Dollar. People talk about the things they love.

And people spend their money on the things they love. Speech and spending always reveal quite a love story.

Jesus once told a rich man, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. (Matthew 19:21,2)

The young man was unable to follow Jesus because he was unwilling to part with his beloved possessions. Jesus knew what was in this man’s heart and that he was hoarding money. Christ told the man to choose between his wealth and the Lord. The man chose to continue hoarding riches rather than to follow Christ.

Creflo Dollar still has time to reverse course and dump his lover. And if that happens, he can finally stop lusting after luxury cars, mansions, and private jets. Instead, he will spend his time thinking about the Lord and how to help people experience true righteousness.

In all honesty, it’s hard to imagine this prosperity preacher turning away from his mistress of materialism. And yet it’s like Jesus said: “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” (Matthew 19:26)

If Creflo makes the difficult choice to empty his pocket for the benefit of the needy, the Lord can instantly begin filling his soul with true riches and living water. (see John 7:38,39) But for the time being, the fortune being stored in Creflo’s pocket is preventing his soul from prospering, not to mention the souls of those who have come under the spell of his “you can be rich like me” appeals.

It is interesting that 99.9% of those who follow prosperity preachers never seem to reap the Rolls-Royce, the mansion, or the private jet. Those luxuries are reserved for the guy up on stage making the smooth-talking sales pitch. And his expensive toys get paid for by thousands of hardworking people. Many of them earn minimum wage while dreaming about hitting the big one just like their prophet.

You see, there is something even worse than a religious leader storing up treasure in his pocket. It’s when he entices thousands of other people to lust after his affluence with the goal that one day they can be just like him.

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The following comment was left at the ExperienceInWordofFaith website.

The Lord just brought me to clarity on this point, within the past few days. I found your blog through a google to see whether the “revelation” that Word of Faith was witchcraft was commonly known. Because I’m still processing the idea. And it’s still very…unsettling to acknowledge, upsetting to confront.

I practiced (granted, not very “successfully”, according to the “wealth and success” practitioners like the Copelands manage to amass) witchcraft for a couple of decades (age 13-33), prior to being regenerated by the Holy Spirit, last year. This, even knowing Jesus was(is) real–He’d directly answered cries for help in times of crisis, in youth. But I turned to witchcraft, anyway, after experiencing the supernatural in Christ, being rejected by the church, then having no idea how to reconcile my experiences with “generally accepted” reality.

Much of what I ended up practicing was entirely in keeping with Word of Faith practice of craft–using words, faith, and intent, while using “sourcebooks” for ideas, but not for study or practice, merely for periodic affirmation and support. Same as they use the Bible for.

Again, I wasn’t necessarily “successful” according to what most folks might consider success, but…my efforts weren’t in vain. There was effect, there was progress, there was power–even if very minor, in the grand scheme. And it was purely, wholly evil. Completely against God. Absolutely in opposition to Christ, given that the mindset under which I operated maintained that God was real, accept that Christ was real, but simultaneously equated myself as somehow akin to them in terms of having sovereignty over my own life and sphere of being. Complete abomination, and I had no idea how much hatred I bore in my heart against Christ, until He began opening my heart and mind, last year. I believed I loved God, prior to being confronted with the unwavering truth of His sovereignty over me and all creation. Long-ignored resentment and loathing then became evident.

Word of Faith is like that–maintaining separate “sovereignty” apart from God. And for many months after regeneration, I remained a follower of those like Hagin and his cohorts. Believing that surely, as God is sovereign and omnipotent, and as He’s given us the Bible, then surely it’s acceptable to “hold Him to the promises” therein contained. As though, somehow, it’s reverent and humble to consider oneself capable of forcing God into compliance with one’s own will.

Even Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego acknowledged that though God was capable of saving them from the fire, He was no less good nor any less sovereign should He choose not to do so. They weren’t so arrogant as to insist that God was obligated to perform on their behalf, simply because He is capable of all things and is sovereign and worthy of the exclusive worship which their lives had been “sacrificed” on behalf of preserving. If those three weren’t arrogant enough as to “hold God to promises,” given their obedience and faith, far be it from anyone else. And their salvation from the furnace was grace. Not assured, not expected. Grace.

Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego’s humility has helped a lot, these past few weeks, in terms of all this stuff with Word of Faith.

Realizing I’d still be in Word of Faith except that the Lord had such mercy as to provide clarity is so very humbling. I had no idea, whatsoever. Even having been a practitioner of witchcraft–or maybe because of that, as it was so “normal” to me–I still didn’t recognize it, till just this past week. So, praying now for those who are still there. I’m sure they absolutely believe themselves preachers of truth. Absolutely sure of that, given how sure I’d been that “Word of Faith” and Prosperity Gospel was true to the Gospel of Christ.

Many prayers for those false teachers and for those who listen to them, now.

And seriously–praise the Lord for giving us clarity to be free from delusion!, as to serve Him in spirit and in truth! I am absolutely certain, except for mercy and grace, we’d all be right where they are, even now.

No one said Creflo cannot dream and believe God for anything. But he needs to quit asking for money from folks because when he ask his followers to believe in God for something, they do not have thousands of people to ask for money from.

SOURCE: After coming under heavy criticism for asking the public for $65 million dollars to purchase a luxury airplane for his ministry last month, popular televangelist and founder of World Changers Church International Creflo Dollar responded in spectacular defiance in a recent message to his church declaring: “If I want to believe God for a $65 million plane, you cannot stop me.”

“Let me tell you something about believing God — I can dream as long as I want to. I can believe God as long as I want to. If I want to believe God for a $65 million plane, you cannot stop me. You cannot stop me from dreaming,” he said in a clip of the message posted on YouTube showing his congregants rising to their feet and cheering in approval.

“You cannot stop me from dreaming. I’m gon’ dream until Jesus comes. And here’s another thing I want you to understand. … If they discover life on Mars, if you think a $65 million plane was too much, if they discover that there’s life on Mars, they gon’ need to hear the Gospel and I’m gon’ have to believe God for a billion dollar space shuttle because we got to preach the Gospel on Mars,” he said.

“I dare you to tell me I can’t dream. I dare you to tell me that I can’t believe God. If I find Jesus, I’m gonna look at Jesus until it comes to pass, because with God all things are possible to him that believe. And so, I say to you, dream on. Dream on baby, don’t dream on what you can have, dream about what the devil says you can’t have. Dream for the best. Dream for the best healing. Dream for the best deliverance; dream for the best house. Dream for the best car. Just ’cause the world don’t have it, doesn’t mean you can’t have it. You are the children of the Almighty God. Dream, dream,” he told his adoring congregants.

Dollar explained earlier in the message that he felt led by the Spirit of God to address the issue of the plane and other rumors circulating about his life because his critics are determined to discredit his voice and his ministry.

“I wouldn’t say this except the Spirit of God led me to say it. Now you see why the devil tried so aggressively to discredit my voice. I’m on my sabbatical and the enemy is trying to discredit me. Heck, I found out this past week I was supposed to be in jail for stealing the tithes,” he said as his congregation laughed.

“And therefore, yesterday, they were transferring me from one county to the other one. I sure wished somebody woulda told me. Found out my real name is not Creflo Dollar. You know what it is? It’s Michael Smith,” he said, addressing a number of online rumors.

“Found out that none of y’all can ever get in the dome unless you show your W-2 form. What you say? Are you listening to what I’m saying? The enemy has got to discredit the voices of faith and grace and truth because he don’t want you to know that you can walk on the water if you can look at Jesus. I’ve got to discredit that man before he starts showing people Jesus,” he continued.

He further explained that he never once asked any member of his congregation to donate to the $65 million airplane fund because he has three million donors around the world who contribute to his ministry and people have been giving to help him get a new jet for his ministry.

The Christian Post had contacted his ministry earlier to find out how much money was collected but received no response. Dollar’s team also repeatedly promised that the televangelist would sit with this reporter to address public concerns about his ministry but the Lord apparently had another plan.

“We are in the midst of a great fight. The enemy, like he always have, is trying to stop the preaching of Jesus and we’re not gonna stop. I never one time, you can attest to it. I never one time came to you for a dime and asked you for an airplane, did I?” Dollar asked his congregants.

He then mocked headlines highlighting the request roundly declared sheer extravagance by the general public.

“‘Creflo Dollar asking his members for $65 million. I ain’t never asked you for a dime. We’ve got over 3 million partners around the world, 3 million donors around the world who support the ministry so I can get to where they are. I had a man from the Middle East send a letter to say they cut off my relative’s head. We need you in the Middle East, here’s a check right here for that plane,” said Dollar.

“You understand what I’m saying? You cannot stop and you cannot curse what God has blessed. Are you listening to me? Half the people that are commenting on the Internet don’t even know me. They don’t know this ministry. They don’t know what we do. That’s why they ask the question: ‘What does a preacher need with an airplane? If you knew what we did then you wouldn’t ask that question. But you don’t know what we do,” he ended in the clip.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | April 13, 2015


salvation is freeI find that when many talk about salvation or being saved, they do not even use or have the correct definition of save, saved or salvation in mind.

The terms in Hebrew, Greek and English predominantly mean to deliver, to rescue from harm or danger, to deliver from sin, to preserve and protect. These actions come from outside of us. They are not something we do. We are merely recipients.

Webster’s defines salvation as “the act of saving someone from sin or evil : the state of being saved from sin or evil”, “something that saves someone or something from danger or a difficult situation” and “deliverance from the power and effects of sin”. Strong’s defines Salvation in the Greek as “G4991 sōtēria Feminine of a derivative of G4990 as (properly abstract) noun; rescue or safety (physically or morally): – deliver, health, salvation, save, saving”. And in Hebrew Strong’s defines Salvation as “H3444 yesh-oo’-aw Feminine passive participle of H3467; something saved, that is, (abstractly) deliverance; hence aid, victory, prosperity: – deliverance, health, help (-ing), salvation, save, saving (health), welfare”.

It was Christ “who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father” (Galatians 1:4). Before the foundation of the world “… God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved” (John 3:17). Salvation is simply not about what we do, but rather what God and Jesus Christ has done on our behalf, delivering us from the wages of our sin – death. There is a plan of salvation. And with any plan there is doing involved. But we are not the ones that do the doing.

As it has been said before, “Christ has done it all”. I would contend that salvation is simply belief/trust in Christ finished work for our saving/rescue – by his death, burial and resurrection for our sins, according to scripture. Salvation is not about doing or “obeying” “the whole plan of salvation”. It is about believing the plan of salvation. And the focus of that plan is on Jesus Christ and his actions, not ourselves. Biblical Christianity is not a do religion, it is a done religion.

That salvation is not about what we do is also strongly indicated by the biblical use of such terms as redemption (to purchase), reconciliation (restoration to divine favor), propitiation (the act by where which God‘s righteous wrath is satisfied by the atonement of Christ), atonement (restoration to divine favor), deliverance (from sin), ransom (from the wages of sin) and justification (a onetime event in which God justifies sinners by reckoning Christ’s righteousness to their account through a legal declaration). The definitions of these words and their usage in scripture show us that salvation is not something we do (Eph. 2:9, Jonah 2:9). Salvation is done on our behalf.

Scripture also says “And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified” (Romans8:28-30). We cannot make ourselves right before or acceptable to God. It must for done for us by God. We cannot even come to Christ unless the Father draws us and even our faith is a gift and not of ourselves.

Another reason we are not saved by what we do is that we are not saved by our righteousness, which is like filthy menstrual rags, but we are saved by being made the righteousness of God – which is a free gift to those who believe in Jesus Christ and His name.

It must also be remembered that God works covenantally and the bible is a covenant document. It was predetermined in an eternal covenant between the Father and the Son before the foundation of the world that Christ would be slain to take away sin for those whom the Father has given Him (Rev. 13:8, Hebrews 13:20, John 6:37-39, John 17:9-12, John 17:24, John 1:29). And because this contract agreement is between God the Father and God the Son we can rest assured that it will be fulfilled and that Jesus will indeed save and keep secure all those the Father has given him.

We can rest in the fact that Christ has done it all for salvation and we are saved when we believe and trust in Him as the payment that the Father and Son made for the penalty of our sin.

Our only real hope is to be saved by mercy and grace and the promise that Jesus will remain faithful.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | March 31, 2015

How Creflo Dollar Can Get a $65M Private Jet by David Ravenhill

creflo dollar jet
: I’ve been thinking about Creflo Dollar‘s dream to upgrade his ailing jet for something better, much better, in fact. I hate to see this ‘man of God’ having to travel by way of a commercial airline, like the rest of us mere mortals.

Jesus borrowed a womb to be born, a boat to preach from, a donkey to ride on and a boy’s lunch to feed the multitude, not to mention a room for the Last Supper, etc. Aside from that, we are told “the Son of Man had nowhere to lay His head.”

But that was then and this is now!

I just can’t picture Creflo on a donkey, not when he is accustomed to driving around in his Rolls-Royce or Bentley or one of his other luxury cars. Which brings me back to how he can make his dream a reality.

The solution to his problem is simple. I can’t believe he hasn’t thought of it himself. He just needs to practice what he preaches. Since he is a staunch advocate of the seed faith message, all he needs to do is enclose a check for thirty dollars in his next mailing to each of his seed-faith partners; then stand back and watch as the money begins pouring in. After all, as the saying goes, ‘What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.’ If this is a spiritual principle that works for everyone, then why doesn’t he practice what he repeatedly tells his faithful flock every week? With only a 10-fold increase he would receive $300 for every $30 he sows. That being the case, why not enclose $300 to every partner and do away with the little jet in favor of the Boeing of his choice? He could then outfit his big boy jet to accommodate his Bentley or Rolls. In that way, he doesn’t have to stoop to renting a Ford or Chevy when he arrives to wherever he’s going.

I understand his net worth is around $27 million. Not bad for a man who has learned how to fleece the flock and live high on the hog. Perhaps it’s time for him to sell all that he has and give to the poor. In that way when he gets to heaven he’ll have some treasure waiting for him. Then again he could sow his $20+ million and reap a 30, 60 or a 100-fold increase and be well on his way to becoming a billionaire.

Incidentally this principle will work for all televangelists that preach the seed faith message. I just don’t understand why it only applies to us givers and not the receivers.

As for me, I’m happy flying in coach; it sure beats walking!

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | March 25, 2015

The Ripple Effect of Creflo Dollars 65 Million Dollar Jet Campaign


SOURCE: Western Christianity never looks more lavish, or less like Jesus, than when its leaders are embroiled in scandal. A recent example is Creflo Dollar, an Atlanta area pastor and “Word of Faith” teacher, who made waves across the Internet by asking his congregation to provide funds for a $65 million private jet.

Those acquainted with Dollar’s ministry are not surprised at this latest development. Formerly a student of Kenneth Copeland, Dollar promulgates a message of health, wealth and prosperity that sounds less like Jesus’ call to take up one’s cross, and more like Milton Friedman on steroids.

When scandals like this are caused by prosperity preachers, followers of Jesus need to send an abundantly clear message that this is NOT Christianity. Often, our Pentecostal brothers and sisters are unjustly blamed because of the relationship that exists between these movements and prosperity teaching.

However the historical roots of the “Word of Faith” movement are not anchored to Azusa Street, but to Spencer, Mass., where E.W. Kenyon developed his philosophy of New Thought Metaphysics. His teachings concerning the nature of reality and the ability of the human mind to bend that reality by “tapping into the divine” and “positive confession,” are a bizarre mixture of eastern panentheism and practices that originated in a form of Vajrayana Buddhism. The subsequent “positive confession” teachings of the late Kenneth Hagin and his students built on these false ideas.

When it comes to the origins and essence of “health, wealth and prosperity,” Word of Faith theology bears absolutely no historical, biblical, theological or philosophical resemblance to orthodox Christian faith. We may call this twisted faith system many things, but “Christian” is not one of them.

So when non-Christian leaders cause a scandal that affects the name of Jesus, it’s important that genuine followers of Jesus call these false teachers what they are. But at the same time, we must also admit that many who might otherwise be considered “orthodox” can be guilty of the same error.

To be sure, prosperity teaching certainly makes it easier for someone to do what Creflo Dollar has done. But Dollar’s recent actions aren’t primarily about heretical theology. Nor are they about affluence.
I’m not sure who first suggested that ministers should be poor, but whoever did it was forwarding a poverty theology that is every bit as heretical as its prosperity counterpart. If a pastor is doing well financially, in most cases we should be happy for his success.

But when your net worth is north of $27 million, and you are seeking to bilk one of Atlanta’s poorest neighborhoods – one in which the average annual income is less than $29,000 – out of another $65 million just so you don’t have to fly coach, that’s a character issue!

And when it comes to a lack of character, the ripple effect through the western church is vast!

Too often, churches and ministries have skimmed right past the instruction of the New Testament pastoral letters, and ignored their call for character because they were attracted to a leader’s winsomeness, leadership skills or visionary ability. The results have been tragic.

While they will never make the headlines like someone coveting a $65 million plane, the results of low character – even in “doctrinally sound” environments – are very similar to those produced by religious charlatans. When we ignore character, in the end we really don’t look much different from the heretics.

After many years of working with churches and denominations, I’ve observed three primary ways low character presents itself, damages the body of Christ and casts aspersion on the mission.
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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | March 21, 2015

Ex-Word of Faith Testimony of Eric: It’s Not About Me

By the grace of God, I was born again in early 2013 and baptized on March 30th of that same year. I had been searching for a very long time, yet I had not truly understood the Gospel, my sinfulness nor how desperately I needed a savior. Months earlier a pastor had preached on Revelation 20:15 and that truly got me thinking that if I was not right with God, I would end up in the lake of fire. The Lord truly convicted me and I became very concerned about eternity for probably the first time in my life. I knew that I was not right with God. It was through a challenge given by our pastor to read through the 4 Gospels that things started to change. Truly the Holy Scriptures can bring one to salvation (2 Timothy 3:15). It was at the this time that I started to attend a church that adhered to the Word of Faith movement’s (henceforth WOF) doctrines and teachings. I was unaware of what it was, as I am sure that many a Christian does not know what WOF is. WOF is adhered to by many a money-grubbing televangelist, and many of the popular and mainstream representatives such as the likes of Joel Osteen, TD Jakes, Creflo Dollar, Kenneth Copeland, Joyce Meyer, etc. Thus much of my theology was subtly tainted with false teachings. In addition though likely of no consequence my brother and I had been subscribing to a magazine called “Tomorrow’s World” They belong to the cult of Armstrongism which is somewhere between Watchtower and Seventh-Day Adventist theology.

I am however thankful for the fact that the pastor at this church encouraged us to read the Bible daily which along with God’s grace brought about significant spiritual growth rather quickly. But to continue, I being young in the faith was unaware and vulnerable, not yet able to discern between good and evil, between true and false doctrine. While many of those in the WOF are closely tied to the “Prosperity gospel” in that they stress the importance of health and wealth, this church which I attended was softer, more subtle, this church’s focus was upon blessings and success. It placed blessings above contentment and fellowship with God.

RCCG-The Redeemed Christian Church of God, which is a church from Nigeria. This was the church that I attended and I mention its name so that other Christians know to avoid it. I should have realized that something was off when the General Overseer of the church,  during a special worship service declared that those that he was addressing in the congregation would not die poor among other things. This is not something a mere man can state, at the time it seemed strange but I paid it little attention.

Before we became fully committed to RCCG, a brother warned us and said that RCCG was a “Prosperity Gospel” church. I heeded not his warnings for I figured, what could the harm be? We departed from that congregation at this point. It was at this point that we experienced what I imagine Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons and all cults experience, we were isolated. In typical cult like fashion we were segregated from other congregations and discouraged from going to other services. We were kept so busy that we didn’t have time to attend other congregations or meet with brothers and sisters from other congregations. We grew close to the other members, though we were a small congregation. I had no clue that anything was wrong. It wasn’t until my biological brother who glory be to God is also my spiritual brother, mentioned that the characteristics of our church seemed to fit the bill for the description of the “Prosperity gospel”. Again I turned a blind eye to it and was in denial and assumed that it was unimportant. We went further and further into unfamiliar teachings such as positive confession and Biblical “promises”. We would take a piece of scripture out of context that applied to what we wanted and pray with that scripture, because with our mentality God had to do whatever He said in His word. As we know that God cannot lie, He would be lying if He didn’t fulfil what He had promised, right? Well, though we know that God does not have to do anything, this was our logic.
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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | March 20, 2015

Why is Joel Osteen considered a false teacher?


SOURCE: Question: Why is Joel Osteen considered a false teacher?

Answer: Greetings friend. Although it is always with fear and trepidation that I comment on high profile persons in the Christian culture, I shall respond to your concerns about Joel Osteen. Many in the evangelical community consider Osteen to be a false teacher because he ignores the Gospel, shows lack of biblical discernment and has a skewed view of Jesus Christ. He also propagates aberrant doctrines. However, let us proceed humbly and with caution. None of us can truly know the heart of another person.

A true Christian is a person who has responded in faith to the salvific work of Jesus Christ—one in whom the Holy Spirit, therefore, resides. So, how do we test this in other people? Sometimes I wish it were as clear as having marks on our foreheads, but the reality is that we must test every minister’s teachings against the Scripture and form our opinions from there. If Joel Osteen understands the Gospel of saving grace through Jesus Christ, he gives it low priority, and that (in my opinion) is the tell. Those of us who have been pulled back from the brink of hell tend to keep the core Gospel elements as our underlying message, and since Osteen makes the Gospel such a low priority, I’m not sure that he has ever been converted. Perhaps he does not speak the words of life because he cannot speak the words of life.

Osteen must give the Gospel a low priority because he is a leading proponent of two aberrant doctrines, which, because of how they work, undermine God’s sovereignty and the Gospel itself: The self-esteem gospel and the Word of Faith theology. Since neither of these doctrines reflects the teachings of Jesus Christ, I must hold their adherents as spiritually suspect—no matter how large their following.

Osteen pastors the 40,000+ member Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas. He has also authored two bestselling books, Your Best Life Now: Seven Steps to Living at Your Full Potential (Faith Words, 2004), and Become a Better You: Seven Keys to Improving Your Life Everyday (Free Press, 2007). Osteen is congruent in that lives what he preaches. He is very successful…but what is he successful in? Sadly, not in preaching the Gospel.

Bob Hunter reviewed Osteen’s second book for the Christian Research Institute, and he found many problems, but the issue below is foundational to some of his specific doctrinal anomalies.

Preaching the Whole Word of God. Joel Osteen has said that digging deep into the Scriptures and preaching about sin is “not my main calling.” He has a congregation of more than forty thousand people, in addition to millions who watch him weekly on television rather than attending a regular church. He is, in effect, their pastor. If he isn’t going to faithfully preach the gospel to them, then who will? The same applies to his readers. Except for two brief paragraphs at the end of the book, there is no presentation of the gospel to those who are lost. This is undoubtedly the saddest part of his “gospel-light” message. — reviewed by Bob Hunter.

Osteen’s books answer the question, what must I do to become a better me? The Bible answers the question, what must I do to be saved? (Acts 16:30). In light of the latter, the former loses all importance.

“For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what shall a man give in return for his soul?” (Matthew 16:26, ESV)

Herein lies the problem. There is nothing wrong with prospering per se—many true believers enjoy this world’s riches. But Jesus uses the concept of worldly gain as an antipole to the thing of real value, the salvation of the human soul. Osteen reverses this emphasis, and anyone who reverses Jesus’ emphasis on the relationship of one’s possessions to the human soul shows the spirit of anti-Christ in his teaching (1 John 2:18).

One might legitimately ask, what’s the problem with a little positive verbiage among God’s people? Is Osteen really hurting anybody? Absolutely. He wears the mantle of God—influencing millions! But he preaches positive thinking and self-help instead of the Gospel. My friend, the Gospel is the opposite of positive thinking and self-help. The Gospel says, I’m a wreck! Help me God! The true Gospel is edgy—it divides—and I count it as unlikely in a church that attracts 40,000 people, that there would be even a whiff of the true Gospel. True salvation displays humans that are wrecked by sin. It requires a suffering Savior, the essential unworthiness of the believer…and the emptying of self. These are not in Osteen’s showcase.

To assess for yourself whether or not Osteen represents the biblical Jesus Christ in his preaching or if he interprets the Scriptures correctly, just read his books or listen to his preaching. If you are a true Christian, you’ll soon discern that he uses god-flavored language to propagate an ungodly concept. The Word of Faith theology and/or the prosperity gospel tells us that God wants us rich! That’s a lie. God does not want us rich—he wants us holy (1 Pet. 1:15-16). Riches are neither here nor there.

Word of Faith purports that faith is a force and that words are the containers of the force, therefore, words create reality. So, saying good things can make good things happen and saying bad things can make bad things happen. Now, I don’t know about you, but my God is not subject to an algorithm—and that’s what we have here, a flowchart telling us how to make God jump through hoops. Any mature Christian understands that hardship and woe are as much God’s tools as are joy, mercy and grace. A congruent Word of Faith proponent cannot, at the end of the day, believe in a sovereign God—and that’s the only kind of God revealed in the Bible. My question is (as always), are they reading it? If the prosperity people are indeed reading their bibles, they are missing a fundamental truth.

Let’s go out on a limb and say that true Christianity is about Jesus Christ or it is about nothing at all (1 Cor. 2:2). With that in mind, take a look a Jesus’ portfolio…because counting his assets is easy. Up until his crucifixion, Jesus owned the clothes on his back. (Then he lost even those!) (Matt. 27:35). He had no bank account (Matt. 17:27), he owned no house (Matt. 8:20), and he died naked on the cross, so mark this well: When Jesus died, he had zero assets. Now, how does one parlay the example of the absolute poverty of Jesus Christ (2 Cor. 8:9) into the idea that God wants us rich? With help from below, I’m afraid. The world cares only for itself, the flesh wants its ears tickled, and the devil will help out in any way he can.

The greatest problem with Osteen is this; unconverted people (as well as believers who are not well grounded in the Bible) might confuse his success in the prosperity movement with success in actual Christianity. Fortunately, this confusion is curable. Every person who names the name of Jesus Christ should embark on a prayerful and careful study of the Scripture. This not only cures confusion, it prevents future outbreaks.

became-sin-for-us-300x222SOURCE: Yesterday, as I was reading through portions of Martin Luther’s commentary on Galatians, I came across the following:

“Christ took upon Himself our sins, not by constraint, but of His own good will, in order to bear the punishment and wrath of God: not for the sake of His own person (which was just and invincible, and was not in any way guilty), but for our person. So by means of a joyous substitution, He took upon Himself our sinful person, and gave to us His innocent and victorious person: with which we, being now clothed, are free from the curse of the law. . . . By faith alone therefore we are made righteous, for faith alone lays hold of this victory of Christ.” (Commentary on Gal. 3:13 )

John Calvin’s comments on 2 Corinthians 5:21 are similar:

“How can we become righteous before God? In the same way as Christ became a sinner. For He took, as it were, our person, that He might be the offender in our name and thus might be reckoned a sinner, not because of His own offences but because of those of others, since He Himself was pure and free from every fault and bore the penalty that was our due and not His own. Now in the same way we are righteous in Him, not because we have satisfied God’s judgment by our own works, but because we are judged in relation to Christ’s righteousness which we have put on by faith, that it may become our own.” (Commentary on 2 Cor. 5:21 )

Those quotations, which underscore the doctrines of substitutionary atonement and Christ’s imputed righteousness, reminded me of an earlier study I had done regarding 2 Corinthians 5:21, specifically with regard to this question: In what way was Jesus “made sin” on the cross?

I thought it’d be worth rehearsing some of that material in today’s post.

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To state the question another way: Did Jesus become the literal embodiment of sin, or take on a sin nature, or become a sinner when He died at Calvary?

The heart of the question centers on Paul’s statement in 2 Corinthians 5:21 : “He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.”

In what sense did Jesus become “sin on our behalf”? Does that phrase mean that Jesus literally became a sinner on the cross?

There are some today who teach that Jesus became a sinner (or took on a sin nature) at the cross. Benny Hinn is one such advocate. In a TBN broadcast, Hinn exclaimed:

“He [Jesus] who is righteous by choice said, ‘The only way I can stop sin is by me becoming it. I can’t just stop it by letting it touch me; I and it must become one.’ Hear this! He who is the nature of God became the nature of Satan when he became sin!” (Benny Hinn, Trinity Broadcasting Network, December 1, 1990)

Prosperity-preacher Kenneth Copeland echoes those same teachings. In Copeland’s words:

“The righteousness of God was made to be sin. He accepted the sin nature of Satan in His own spirit. And at the moment that He did so, He cried, ‘My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?’ You don’t know what happened at the cross. Why do you think Moses, upon instruction of God, raised the serpent upon that pole instead of a lamb? That used to bug me. I said, ‘Why in the world would you want to put a snake up there; the sign of Satan? Why didn’t you put a lamb on that pole?’ And the Lord said, ‘Because it was a sign of Satan that was hanging on the cross.’ He said, ‘I accepted, in my own spirit, spiritual death; and the light was turned off.’” (Kenneth Copeland, “What Happened from the Cross to the Throne,” 1990, audiotape #02-0017, side 2)

On another occasion, Copeland reiterates that same teaching:

“How did Jesus then on the cross say, ‘My God’? Because God was not His Father any more. He took upon Himself the nature of Satan.” (Kenneth Copeland, “Believer’s Voice of Victory,” Trinity Broadcasting Network, April 21, 1991)

But do assertions like these accurately reflect Paul’s teaching that “He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf”?

To come back to the original question: “Did Jesus become the literal embodiment of sin, or take on a sin nature, or become a sinner when He died at Calvary?” My answer to that question is a resounding no.

Here are five reasons why:

Read More…

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 20, 2015

What Do These Faith Healers All Have In Common?

Faith Healer, Heal Thyself: 'HEAL!'

By Michael W. Hoggard – What do Finis Dake, Oral Roberts, Kenneth Hagin, Kathryn Kuhlman, and Aimee Semple McPherson all have in common? They all made claims that all Christians should be healed of every disease, and they all died with diseased bodies.

In 1992, health and prosperity preacher Oral Roberts suffered a heart attack which forced him into retirement. In December of 2009 Roberts died due to complications from pnuemonia.

In 2003, famed health preacher Kenneth Hagin, who claimed that as a child he died 3 times, died from cardics arrest due to the effects of cardio-vascular disease.

Woman preacher and faith healer Kathryn Kuhlman died of complications from heart surgery. As far back as 1955 she was diagnosed with a heart disease. In July of 1975 her heart again began to fail, suffering a relapse of the same condition in November 1975. She underwent open heart surgery for an enlarged heart in February of 1976, and died shortly thereafter.

Her most famous quote concerning her healing ministry was , “Everything that happened in the early church, we have a right to expect today.” Despite her claims that she could heal people of their diseases, those claims were discovered to be far from the truth. Following a 1967 fellowship in Philadelphia, Dr. William A. Nolen conducted a case study of 23 people who claimed to have been cured during her services. Nolen’s long term follow-ups concluded that there were no cures in those cases. One woman who was said to have been cured of spinal cancer threw away her brace and ran across the stage at Kuhlman’s command; her spine collapsed the next day and she died four months later.

Kuhlman was inspired in her “ministry” by “faith healing” pioneer Aimee Semple McPherson. Between 1909 and 1916 McPherson claimed that she healed herself 3 times, from a broken leg to instant healing of facial burns. Between the years of 1919 and 1944, she credited herself with a healing ministry that spanned the entire country. In September of 1944 she was found by her son in her hotel room unconscious with various pills and a half empty bottle of capsules nearby. She died about an hour later. She had been taking sleeping pills following numerous health problems, including a “tropical fever”. Among the pills found in her room was a barbiturate “Seconal”, a very strong sedative, for which she had no prescription. The coroner determined that she died of an accidental drug overdose compounded by long term kidney failure.

Finis Dake and his teachings have become the foundation of many of these faith healers such as Roberts and Hagin. Here is what Dake said about his “right” to be healed of all diseases. “Men can die and should die free from diseases that Christ bore for them…..If men were taught the true gospel and all Christians could have their faith built up to a normal and healthy state we would see multiplied thousands of victorious deaths without so much pain and suffering. But the average Christian today is taught so many fallacies until he is full of arguments against this truth. He has so much unbelief and doubt concerning the truth until very seldom do we find such a victory in death. GPFM pg 943-944 Dake lays the blame for someone not receiving healing on their own inability. “Concerning sickness, some get healed immediately and others do not. It is clear that there must be a cause if one is not healed for there is no respect of persons with God. He will heal and save any and all alike who to Him with the whole heart. The cause of failure is not in God. It is in the individual who is to blame. God has plainly stated what the cause is. That cause is always unbelief.” GPFM pg 909

Finis Dake died in 1982 from Parkinsons disease. This is what actor Michael J. Fox suffers from and the disease takes years to totally destroy the human body, the last few months are spent in agonizing pain.

Despite all their claims that God promises everybody total health and wellness, and that only the unfaithful suffer death from disease, these all died from diseases that their “faith” could not deliver them from. God is not mocked, nor will He be tempted. You can and should believe everything the Bible says. But these false teachers lied, made false claims, and fell far short of their own teachings.

Former Word of Faither Shawnice Powell revisits THE SECRET DVD and how it helped her get out of the Word of Faith Movement. Shawnice blogs at My Experience in the Word of Faith. Shawnice really pours her heart and soul out in this 30 minute video. GIVE HER A LISTEN!!!

super bppwl 2015This article, Joel Osteen on whether God cares who wins the Super Bowl, was posted today, the day before the 2015 Super Bowl. Here is what Osteen said in the video when asked that question.

“I think that God cares about us doing our best but obviously someone has to win and someone has to lose, so I don’t know……..”

But this article on the question was written last year for the Super Bowl and featured here on this blog. Which says…..

“When it comes to this weekend’s Super Bowl, 3 in 10 Americans are betting on God. A new study by the Public Religion Research Institute found that one-third of the country believes that God plays a role in determining which team wins.

Americans are even more certain about the players themselves. A majority believe that God rewards individual athletes who are faithful to God with good health and success.

This kind of thinking about faith and success follows a broader religious trend. Over the last 50 years, American Christians have gravitated toward spiritual explanations for why winners deserve their rewards. The default rationalizations — Good things happen to good people! Everything happens for a reason! — are no longer simply cliches. They are the theological bedrock for one of the most popular contemporary movements — the American prosperity gospel.

Millions of American Christians now agree that faith brings health, wealth and victory. This movement, which began in the Pentecostal revivals of the post-World War II years, has become a commonplace theological framework for how faith works to secure God’s blessings.”

That article also notes of Osteen and his Theology.

“Soft prosperity loosely equates faithfulness and success, allowing for temporary setbacks on the steady march to victory. Joel Osteen, senior pastor of America’s largest church, has made a career of encouraging people to embrace their identity as victors. His weekly television audiences of seven million tune in to hear his message of unstoppable success: “You were born to win; you were born for greatness; you were created to be a champion in life.”

My question is does God cancel out his truths for the Super Bowl? If it is true as Osteen alleges that success and victory comes through positive thinking (also see here) and speaking positive things by faith, then does it not follow that the team who wins, or maybe the player that might make the game winning play and get the MVP award, should be the ones/one with the most faith, positive thinking and positive confession? If the universe is subject to the Law of Faith as a Force, as Kenneth Copeland and Joyce Meyer still teaches, then does God suspend this law of faith on Super Bowl so it is mostly up to skill and luck or happenstance who wins. Or is God in charge of who wins, or is the so called law of faith that Osteens occultic teachings are derived from determines who wins?

And since Osteen admitted that obviously someone has to be the winner and someone has to be the loser, does that not invalidate the WoF theology because just like there will be winners and losers in sports games, there will also be winners and losers in life – will there not be times when we win and times when we lose in our Christian walks and lives here on this earth? And might there be times when we could have long protracted slumps and it seems like we are not being very much victors over anything for a long time? If the so called law of faith is always applicable shouldn’t the most faithful be victorious all the time in anything competitive?

If Joel really believed what he teaches about the power of words he would have spoken up and stated his theology clearly (although he would not like that term) and touted the winning team or individual as exemplary of victorious faith. But it seems to me that Osteen just shot himself in the theological foot and once again relied on his steady. fast and proven to work ducking measure of saying “I don’t know”. I pray others can see the epic irony here. Does God really care who wins, in my opinion no. And if Joel thinks the same then why did he just not say so?

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | January 23, 2015


This is ex-faith healer Mark Havilles second expose on the signs and wonders movement. You can see Mark telling the tricks of the fake faith healing trade here. And here is Part one, it is a must must must see. This part 2 is not quite as good as part 1 but it is still good and worth the time to view and share.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | December 23, 2014

Understanding the Word of Faith Movement by Clete Hux

In this one hour video ARC Apologetics director of Cult studies, Clete Hux, gives about an hours worth of his 3 hour powerpoint seminar on the Word of Faith Movement at a small church. I have read several works of Clete Hux and was surprised to find out here that he used to be a follower of Kenneth Copeland for awhile before he went to seminary. He covers the occultic origins of the movement and covers the basics of “word-faith” theology (as he likes to call it). It’s really good and I would love to have all three hours of his seminar. Maybe one day he will publish it all. Here it is.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | December 22, 2014

What’s Wrong With The Word Of Faith Movement?

Frank Turek addresses the issues with the Word of Faith movement

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | December 20, 2014

Jentezen Franklin, and his false teachings on fasting

SOURCE: “PART 1: The Daniel Fast, here

Jentezen FranklinThere are many churches today participating in the current fad known as The Daniel Fast. This is a man-made so-called spiritual activity that is supposed to automatically draw you closer to God by eating things that are on a list and not eating things that are not on a list.

If you partake of this fast, other benefits mentioned on The Daniel Fast website are winning the battle over the flesh (hard to do when we are still flesh when the fast is done), losing weight and healings from diabetes, allergies, arthritis and cancer. Another benefit is said to be putting our spirit in charge of the other two parts of us, the soul and the body. It must be news to the Holy Spirit that we can put Him in charge of things. (source). Here is what others have experienced by fasting along with Jentezen Franklin: healed relationships, spiritual growth, physical healings, financial breakthroughs, and other blessings. Wow.

If that is the case, you have to wonder what blessings aren’t being released, Franklin writes, what answers to prayer are not getting through…what bondages are not being broken…because we fail to fast.” The Word-Faith crowd always makes a point to say that we will lose out on something if we don’t do it their way. This is an example. Fasting is a voluntary activity we engage in at the prompting of the Spirit or when we feel we need to humble ourselves in grief or repentance, or to focus on Jesus in a more pointed way. More on fasting in previous post.

Jentezen Franklin is the guru of fasting. He has written two books on it and is the one who championed The Daniel Fast. His statements about why we fast include fasting to get a blessing, to earn God’s favor, to get a public reward, to get our greatest breakthrough, to “release” a hundredfold return. (source).

So the lesson from The Daniel Fast and Jentezen Franklin is that we fast to get something. I do not believe we fast to get something, and I do not believe we should expect something and I do not believe we have the power to cause God to do something if we fast. More on what fasting is all about in the previous post.

Secondly, if we fast, Franklin says, it causes God to “release” these things into our lives. My understanding is that fasting is a private expression of a deeply felt spiritual need and a way to humble myself before Almighty God.

All this elevates fasting to an importance the bible does not give it nor did Jesus give it. So who is this Jentezen Franklin?

Franklin is pastor of a Holiness church in GA but he is also pastor of a Holiness church in CA. How does he do it? This article from Charisma Magazine explains:

“Every Sunday, Franklin arrives at Free Chapel in Gainesville (GA) by 5 a.m. for prayer, preaches two sermons and shakes hundreds of hands before boarding a private jet at 2 p.m. with his family and two staff members. They arrive at John Wayne Airport, located five minutes from Free Chapel Orange County (OC), and by 6 p.m. Franklin is in the pulpit. The next day is filled with Orange County staff meetings, and the group returns to Gainesville on Tuesday. “This may sound like a crazy schedule, but it is actually exhilarating,” Franklin says. … “My family comes first, and what shows me that this is of God is the way they can be with me more now than ever,” Franklin says. “The school systems have actually worked it out that my children can be off the two days so they can be with me.”

Is this a biblical model of pastoring? Pastor means shepherd. How can he shepherd his flock if he has one pasture in Judah and one in Persia? He can’t. It is not a biblical model of shepherding. As for his family, is taking his children out of school for two days a week the best, most stable life for them? Is his ambition so great he plunks his children in the middle of his “crazy schedule” so he can enjoy the ‘exhilaration’? And a private jet??? He had a choice to stay in GA. He chose the jet set lifestyle. Is this the proper Christian pastoring and fathering model we want to buy into? It isn’t for me, and I refuse to spend money buying his book.

His friends tell us a lot about who Franklin is. This weekend he is preaching from the pulpit of false preacher Joel Osteen’s stage at Lakewood Church! (source here and here). There is no worse false church in America than Lakewood. There is no worse false preacher than Osteen! Osteen denies the Gospel in favor of becoming a motivational guru to have “your best life now”. The only way you’re having your best life now is if you’re going to hell. (that was John MacArthur’s wit). This Jentezen Franklin will be preaching from Osteen’s stage for two days. That should tell us a lot.


If that is not enough, after this weekend Franklin will be hosting the “Praise the Lord” show with Jan and Paul Crouch on TBN. There is no deeper of a snake pit of false doctrine than Praise the Lord show on TBN and Franklin will be promoting it. (source)

Franklin should be excised from any bible-believing church on these bases ALONE.

But wait, there’s more.

As for his teachings, they are false doctrine too. He said in one sermon as he appealed for money, lots of it for over ten minutes, over sentimental music blared from loudspeakers, “I’ve never come to Hillsong Conference where I haven’t sown at least a $1000 seed…”

Yet the bible says, “So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.” Mt 6:2

and Franklin goes on, “$1000 seed…into this place, because if I sow now, the rain of now will fall on my life.” NAME IT CLAIM IT! Tithe big, you get big. And what is “the rain of now” for heaven’s sakes? His hands were fluttering down as rain, and the audience looked up as if expecting manna or Armani suits or money to fall from the sky right then.

He is a Word-Faith preacher and we know those are false. The Word-Faith crowd is big on “if you do this, you get this.” “If you do this it will cause God to move.” They talk about ‘releasing’ power into your life, but in fact the only thing we have the power to release is a fart after dinner. He elevates to us more power than we have and diminishes Jesus in the process.

“It is so easy to get caught up in the busyness of ministry,” he says. “It’s dangerous to have a growing ministry and a shrinking passion for God; something gets out of whack. When I find myself becoming mechanical in my preaching, even a one-day fast fine-tunes me and makes my heart sensitive. For me, fasting is the key.”

Fasting is not Jiffy Lube. It is the Word fine-tunes you. Sigh.

But most telling, is the following:

He said, “When I feel myself growing dry spiritually, when I don’t sense that cutting-edge anointing, or when I need a fresh encounter with God, fasting is the secret key that unlocks heaven’s door and slams shut the gates of hell. The discipline of fasting releases the anointing, the favor, and the blessing of God in the life of a Christian.”

Don’t gloss over this.

It is the most abhorrent statement imaginable. It is sacrilege. Jesus has the key to heaven and hell. Nothing we do unlocks it. How sacrilegious to say that any activity we do unlocks heaven or shuts hell. This is wrong! On just that statement, he should be booted from every bible-believing pulpit, our churches, and our bookshelves!

And why is fasting characterized as a “secret”? It is not, at least not to anyone who reads the bible. And what is a ‘cutting edge anointing’? Is it different from a regular anointing? Franklin distinguished the “normal seed” from the “precious seed” in one ‘name it claim it’ sermon I’d listened to. I guess I am missing out on the “cutting edge” anointing and I just have to settle for the regular anointing we get when we’re saved. (1 John 2:20).

See, that is the dangerous heresy in Word-Faith preachers like Franklin, they subtly elevate themselves and their teachings above what the bible says, making everything else seem humdrum by comparison by using sexy words like cutting edge, fine-tune, heart sensitive, breakthroughs, hundredfold return, precious seeds…. it is all very exciting in Franklin’s world, exhilarating, even. By comparison, the staid old faith, prayer, service, obedience seems dry as yesterday’s toast.

The Word-Faith doctrine “puts confidence in the nature of faith rather then in the object of faith. It assumes that there’s something inherent in believing that enacts [or “releases”] something when it isn’t true at all. It is not the nature of faith that is effective, it is the object of faith. It is my faith in God that gets results not my faith in my faith.” (source: A biblical answer to the prosperity Gospel)

Franklin Jentezen is a jet setting, TBN hosting, Osteen partnering Word-Faith prosperity preacher who has no business being in any biblical church. He is a wolf. Avoid Jentezen Franklin and The Daniel Fast. Rely on the Holy Spirit to direct your steps. Pray, fast when the Spirit prompts you, read your bible so you will have the discernment to spot a false teaching when you come across one. Go have a good lunch, and don’t forget to thank the Lord for it!

SOURCE: As 2014 comes to a close, many people are reflecting on the year and setting goals. I’m delighted to see so many Christian women desiring to use the gifts God gave them to glorify Him. However, just as everything else in this world is corrupted, our goal setting can also be affected. And this is where Miss Interpreted comes in.

Miss Interpreted yearns to honor God and makes her plans for the new year accordingly. She reads half a verse from Proverbs which says, “Where there is no vision the people perish” (KJV) as a reason to set up vision boards and use visualization to make her dreams come to pass. This is hardly a surprise since Miss Interpreted follows the teachings of celebrity Pastors such as Bill Hybels and Rick Warren who teach this false interpretation:

Proverbs 29:18 says, “Where there is no vision, the people are unrestrained.” They can’t focus, can’t reach their goal, can’t follow their dream. An older translation says, “Without vision, the people perish.” I’ve seen it with my own eyes – without vision, people lose the vitality that makes them feel alive.
-Bill Hybels, Courageous Leadership, page 31

(links to Rick Warren’s teachings below)

Let’s look at other translations with attention to the words I’ve italicized:

Where there is no revelation, the people cast off restraint (NIV)

When people do not accept divine guidance, they run wild (NLT)

Where there is no prophetic vision the people cast off restraint (ESV)

Where there is no vision [no redemptive revelation of God], the people perish (AMP)

Words like revelation, divine guidance, and redemptive revelation of God make it clear the verse is not talking about our own vision we can cast. Likewise, run wild and cast off restraint is referring to rebellion – not a “vitality that makes them feel alive”.

Putting it all together, this verse is saying without God’s revelation in understanding His words and obeying it, people will cast off restraint and do what they think is right in their own eyes.

Isn’t it odd that Bill Hybels chose to use the KJV to misinterpret the meaning? He actually begins by quoting the NASB version which is a clearer indication of the correct interpretation. But I suppose the accurate meaning doesn’t support his message.

When There is No Vision the People Misinterpret Proverbs 29:18


We’ve only looked at half of the verse so far. It continues to say, “But blessed is he who keeps the law” (ESV), or “But happy is he who keeps the law” (NASB). It’s obvious by now this verse is referring to obedience and not failed dreams, or congregation size as Rick Warren would have us believe.

I suppose the faulty interpretation of this verse is attractive to Miss Interpreted because if she’s following Rick Warren, she is most likely also under the teachings of the Word of Faith Movement/Prosperity Gospel. After all, how different is casting a vision than “believing and conceiving”? As if this isn’t bad enough, this is really the law of attraction promoted in a twisted scripture. So basically, Miss Interpreted is practicing in the occult. Deceived Miss Interpreted started off with a desire to honor God and ended up meditating on her vision boards, thereby sacrificing to demons, not to God (1 Corinthians 1:20).

How can God be glorified if we don’t discern His words? Let’s plan to glorify God by testing everything (1 Thessalonians 5:21) so that our love may abound more and more, with knowledge and all discernment, so that we may approve what is excellent, and so be pure and blameless for the day of Christ (Philippians 1:9-10)

Soli Deo Gloria,

Pamela Couvrette

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | December 19, 2014


SOURCE: “ I like to start with something funny.”

As I heard these words from the T.V., I thought I came across Comedy Central, when it dawned on me that I do not have cable. (Yes, you heard correctly)

Then the voice from the T.V. continued, as the crowd synchronistically repeated the same words in a very robotic, cult-like fashion.

“Hold up your Bible. Say it like you mean it. This is my Bible. I am what it says I am. I have what it says I have. I can do what it says I can do. Today I will be taught the Word of God. I boldly confess. My mind is alert. My heart is receptive. I will never be the same. In Jesus’ name.”


I thought to myself, “Great, some Bible preaching and teaching.”

But again I was mistaken. Though the speaker said, “Today I will be taught the Word of God.”, he did not teach the Word of God. Not once during his message did he say,

“Look at verse _______.”


“ Turn in your Bibles to _______.”


“Our text teaches us _______.”

Rather, he taught some stories with feel good messages about self.

This was none other than Joel Osteen. But of course. Did you expect anything else?

A few years ago I was at a visiting church preaching from 2 Timothy about the biblical qualities of a pastor. In my intro I referred to Joel Osteen as a negative example of biblical pastoral qualities. At the end of the service, the pastor, a friend of mine, told me that the man sitting in the front happened to be a Joel Osteen fan. I told my pastor friend I was glad because that man needed to hear me expose Joel Osteen for his true colors.

Why does Joel Osteen have such a cultish influence?

1)  Because he feeds the ego.

Osteen preaches NOT the Holy Trinity, but the unholy trinity, me, myself and I.

Who doesn’t want to read his books “I Declare”( or his most recent “You Can, You Will.” when they stroke your pride and exalt self? Last time I checked, I believe Jesus talked about denying self!

This is the overflow of a man-centered theology, which is really an oxymoron because the term “theology” means the study of God. Theology by definition is God-centered. There is nothing God-centered about Osteen’s message.

2)  Because he scratches itching ears.

In his swan song, his death being imminent(2 Timothy 4:6), the apostle Paul warned Timothy that “people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4 and will turn away from listening to the truth…”(2 Tim. 4:3-4).

3)  Because he covers up the heart.

What do I mean by that? Rather than exposing the heart’s true condition, he covers it up. The Bible teaches that the reason man is so corrupt and so deeply depraved is because of  the heart’s condition. Both the prophets and Jesus reveal the heart’s true condition.

Jeremiah 17:9 – “The heart is deceitful above all things,

and desperately sick;

who can understand it?”

Matthew 15:18-20 – “But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person”(emphasis added)

Because of the heart’s true condition, what the heart needs is a spiritual surgery performed by God Himself.

Imagine for a moment with me. You tune into Joel Osteen on T.V. The first words that you hear him begin his message with are the following.

“Today, I want to talk to you about the Heart. The heart is deceitful above all things! What comes out of the heart defiles a person.”

Now that wouldn’t sell because it does not feed the ego neither does it scratch those itching ears.

When you feed the ego rather than exalt the Lord, when you scratch itching ears that do not want to hear the truth and when you cover up the heart when the Word of God exposes it, then you are having a cult-like influence.

bennyhinn1-320x320SOURCE: There are a lot of things you should try at least once in your life — skydiving, eating some exotic delicacy, traveling alone. Let me give you one thing not to add to that list: attending a Benny Hinn Holy Spirit Miracle Service.

I recently went to one in New York. Before going, I knew little about Hinn — a man who’s worth some $42 million — other than that he’s a big-deal televangelist among countless charismatic Christians. As someone who’s fairly unfamiliar with that sphere of Christianity, I was mostly just wary of being in a crowd of people speaking in tongues and being slain in the Spirit.

But that turned out to be the least uncomfortable thing about the service. What did happen was so much more upsetting, difficult, and unnerving. If you ever go, here are five unsettling things you’ll experience:

1. You’ll second-guess your Bible knowledge.

When you hear Benny Hinn make statements like, “The prophets all prospered. They had no debt . . . ” it stops you in your tracks. Wait — what? No they weren’t. Were they? You might grab your Bible to check, or you might just realize, Of course that’s not right. What about Elijah, who lived in a cave and had ravens bring him bread to eat? Or John the Baptist, who wore clothing made of camel’s hair and ate locusts and honey?

Or, what about Jesus, who was born in a stable, buried in a borrowed tomb, and had no place to lay his head? When the earthly life of Jesus is a counter-argument to your “Christian” theology, there’s something wrong.

(Another related, absurd Hinn statement: “Where did Noah get the money to build that ark? Think about where he got that moolah.” I’m pretty sure he didn’t need to hit up the local Home Depot.)

2. You’ll realize he’s in control of everything in his world.

From the musician to his audience to the very God he claims to represent, Hinn exerts control over it all. He orders his pianist to play a certain way, and tells him to stop and switch it up when he wants a different mood. He tells his audience how to worship and how much money to give him. And he knows his audience so well — he mentions their material needs, then says things like, “I want you to sow $1,200, because I believe 120 is the number of liberty in the Bible.” Then he confidently promises they’ll be debt free in one year, as if he’s in control of that, too.

Question for Mr. Hinn: If 120 is the biblical number of liberty — which…what? – then why not just have people give $120? (He did also tell them $120 would be okay, but the added zero is a big deal.)

All in all, Hinn tries to take control of God and suggests you can do the same. He tells people to “claim reality with your mouth” and “declare it in writing” — as if you have the power of God to speak things into existence. As if you have the ability to make God do things for you. As if saying or doing something requires God to oblige you.

3. You’ll wrestle with your negative thoughts.

My first instinct was to write off everything that happened under the leadership of Benny Hinn as blasphemous — an offense to the very gospel he claims to preach. But, as you look around the room and see men and women worshipping God with abandon, you realize something. Maybe these people, who trust and believe Hinn, are actually having authentic experiences with Jesus, despite the man guiding them. Maybe these people are actually finding genuine faith in a place that is otherwise tinged by deceit.

And then, for a Christian like me, the thought creeps in: Could it be that God is using Benny Hinn for the salvation of souls? In a small, but significant and confusing and flustering way, this question complicates the otherwise strong desire in me for Hinn’s ministry to be shut down for good.

4. You’ll discover that he owns up to the prosperity gospel.

Unlike the Joel Osteens of the world, Hinn embraces the prosperity gospel by name. He even calls out “anti-prosperity pastors” and says they just don’t get it. At a Holy Spirit Miracle Sevice, Hinn will say “sow your seed” and “prosperity is for real” more times than you can count. And more:

You can’t expect millions from the Lord if you give him some small amount.
In Jesus’ name, we’ll have surplus. Financial surplus is mine . . . is ours.
You’re coming out of debt in the next 12 months if you really believe this.

Hinn even sends you mail a week later, complete with return envelope and offering card, reminding you to sow your “seed-gift” in order to change your circumstances.

Benny Hinn’s ministry can be summed up in his own words: “God’s goal for your life is prosperity.” By that, he doesn’t mean spiritual prosperity, life everlasting in the presence of God. No, he means material wealth, physical health, and general prosperity — which looks quite unlike Jesus’ call to deny ourselves and take up our cross daily.

5. You may end up walking out.

For two reasons. One, these things last upwards of five hours. But the main reason you won’t last the five hours is that you’ll get to a point of such total outrage at what he’s saying that you won’t be able to stomach hearing it any longer. I was (barely) able to endure two and a half hours of “God is about to place a ton of seed in your hands” and “I sense an anointing for this. It’s going to last four-and-a-half minutes” before I had to get out.

(Disclosure: apparently, by leaving halfway through, I missed the faith healings, the slaying in the Spirit, and his message. Lucky me, I was there for the over two-hour warm-up of “give me your money and you’ll be debt free.”)

When the service first started, I found Hinn somewhat humorous. Then I realized the thousand-plus people there were taking every word he said as truth, and I felt really sad for those people.

But it didn’t take long for that feeling to be replaced by anger. Hinn is taking advantage of hurting people — and using Jesus to do so, no less. That’s why you walk out.

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SOURCE: This video is the Faith preacher Kenneth Copeland. Or, to put it another way, this video is my childhood in 3 minutes.

I grew up in Bath, where Kenneth Copeland Ministries has its European office. I have Kenneth Copeland’s autograph in a Bible that was given to me on the day I was born. This is not Texas or Arkansas. This isn’t even London. This is middle class England.

When I watch this stuff, I still feel the same sense of awe I felt as a child. God, Creator of the Universe, the most powerful being in existence, had gone to all this effort to make me blessed. It’s an incredible thought.

I can’t tell you how annoying it is to know that you, reader, can just look at it and go, “bullshit.” Because from having my first doubts at 16, it took me five years to fully shake off. My Dad went to his grave believing this, and the only merciful thing is that if he’d lived, he would have given all our money to Copeland, instead of just most of it.

The most pernicious doctrine of the Word of Faith is the idea that “you can have what you say.” This doctrine of positive confession, as preached by the Copelands, says that anything you say in faith will happen. (There’s a good rundown of the prosperity gospel here, but it’s from a Christian perspective, so my atheist followers might be irked by some parts).

Anything you say in faith will happen.

For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.

Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

Mark 11:23-24

Whatever you desire! How do you do this? Call those things that be not as though they are (Romans 4:17). So if you’re sick, you say, “In Jesus’ name, I am healed.”

Not “I will be healed,” please note: “I am healed.” You believe that you receive when you pray. You call things that be not as though they are.

When God created the world, he spoke. He said, “Let there be light.” And there was light. As sons and heirs of God (Romans 8:17), our words, spoken in faith, have this creative power.

If you say it, it will happen.

You know what that means? If you say something negative, that will happen too.

Never confess doubt, or anything else of a negative nature. Admitting doubt, even in a small way, will paralyze your faith. It will have the effect of withholding God’s best and His blessings from you. Therefore, we must never confess doubt.

Frederick K.C. Price, mega-church pastor1

If you say anything that is a doubt, you won’t get God’s blessing!

Picture the scene at my church on a Sunday morning. You’ve got a bunch of people who believe that if they say something positive, it will happen. They also believe that if they admit anything negative, it will continue, and the positive stuff won’t happen. These people have not seen each other for a week, and they are all asking each other how they are doing.

“How’s it going, James?”

“I’m blessed. Blessed, brother! Glory to God, I’m rich, healed, saved and set free!!”

This is not lying. This is faith. You can never have a normal conversation with someone in the Word of Faith. So once you’re in it, it’s hard to have non-Christian friends, quite apart from all the dire warnings about being unequally yoked with unbelievers (2 Corinthians 6:14).

There’s another thing:

All doubt comes from the devil.




From the devil.

Satan will try to influence you by planting thoughts in your mind. You can always tell when a thought comes from the devil, because that thought will always be inconsistent with and contradictory to the Word of God…

Satan is very clever at his job. He has learned not only how to plant thoughts in our minds, but he has also learned how to govern us in such a way that will make us think we engendered the thought.2

Any thought you have – any suspicion that what you believe might not be true – is of the devil. And the only solution is to drive it out by meditating on God’s Word day and night.

The belief that doubt comes from the devil – and speaking that doubt will stop you from receiving God’s blessings – is a level of mind control to rival any cult.

Logical thought is our immune system against believing fantasy. And the Faith Movement works by cutting this off, your only defence against deception. Your mind can’t comprehend the ways of God, it says, because His thoughts are higher than ours (Isaiah 55:9). Don’t expect to understand it. Just know that doubts are placed there by the devil.

Furthermore, if you’re having doubts, you can’t discuss them with anyone. The very act of discussing them will make those doubts come true. As a mechanism for control this works on so many levels. If you had only a slight doubt, discussing it with a friend might have confirmed it. Now that option is cut off. And if anyone does leave the flock because of doubt, it can’t spread to other people, because those people can’t listen to the doubter.

Mind Control

It’s a black hole. You can’t think your way out, because thinking is not allowed. You can’t talk your way out, because that’s not allowed either. You lose your non-Word of Faith friends, because it’s impossible to hold a conversation with normal people when your words bear no relationship to reality. And because you think the only way to make the supernatural happen is to speak the Word constantly until it comes true, that’s all you do.

The Word of Faith: It’s a cult, it’s got tens of thousands of British followers, it looks like Christianity, and no one knows about it.

1. Price, F.K.C. (1994: 51), Three Keys to Positive Confession. Los Angeles: Faith One Publishing.

2. Ibid., p. 37

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | December 18, 2014

4 Dangers of False Teaching by Pamela Couvrette

I ran into a former occultist/witch named Pamela Couvrette today that dabbled in the Word of Faith before she became a Christian. She has a blog at that has many great articles. She has allowed me to post several other of them here as her being a guest writer and I am very happy to do so. I hope you enjoy.


SOURCE: When cries of division and judgement occur in response to warnings about false teaching and the need for sound doctrine, what is being overlooked is not just vast amounts of scripture, but why the warnings are there at all.

Since all scripture is instructional for living (2 Timothy 3:16), there must be reasons why most of the New Testament warns about false doctrine. I doubt one of those reasons is to give me something to blog about, because trust me, I have enough cute photos of my dogs and failed Pinterest projects to post until the return of Jesus.

So what are the reasons behind the warnings? Let’s look at 2 Peter 2:1-3:

But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.

1. False Teachers and Teachings Slander Christianity

Verse 2 says, because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. Television Evangelists under the guise of Christianity have long been disgraced in the public eye, and more recently, Mark Driscoll of the Mars Hill fiasco caught the attention of The New York Times. When the bad fruits of these people are revealed to the world, it smears Christianity.

2. False Teachers Exploit the Deceived

Verse 3 says because of their greed they exploit with false words. Romans 16:18 says they deceive to serve their appetites, and, to make matters worse, people will follow them because it will suit their passions (2 Timothy 4:3). How many wealthy people are sending money to seed-faith preachers? It’s the poor who send money in hopes for their “donation” to be doubled. How many people need employment and are told they just have to name it and claim it? Or what about the couple who desperately want a child and if they follow the New Age teaching of Positive Confession, they will believe it and conceive it. So not only are these people, in some cases, getting scammed, they are being led down the broad path which leads to destruction.

3. Immature Christians Are Inclined to Accept False Teachings

Ephesians 4:14 encourages us to no longer be children who are tossed to and fro by the waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by human cunning, by craftiness in deceitful schemes.

Yep, that was me. Upon believing the gospel and being given the truth of our Savior, I quickly became a regular at the Christian bookstores, not knowing they were full of destruction. Then, when I went to my former church, they kindly pointed the way to all the false teachings I missed.  8-O

I was not grounded in the knowledge of Christ and the essential doctrines. I knew of them, but I didn’t know why they were true, or how they were important to the gospel, or to living righteously. I just lumped them with everything else that was labeled Christian and sought out the next Christian best seller book.

4. False Teachings Lead to Everlasting Punishment

This is a difficult and painful warning because what this is saying is false teachings lead people to eternal damnation.

John MacArthur explains this clearly:

They bring destructive heresies. This teaching invented by demons, propagated by these hypocritical liars who are parroting the doctrines of demons is intended to lead people astray and damn them into Satan’s eternal dwelling place. Satan is trying to collect people for hell and he wants to work inside the church, not that he can steal the salvation of true believers, but because he can confuse and deceive those who are coming into the church pursuing the truth. And because, also, he can derail and confuse true believers and render them useless.

That’s a pretty scary warning right there.

False teachings make the hearers feel good about themselves by telling them they are good people, and if they think positive thoughts they can achieve what they want. There is no talk about true repentance or sorrow over sin (2 Corinthians 7:10).

Are you under the doctrine of demons or are you under the word of God? Pray for wisdom (James 1:5) so you may be be approved by God and need not be ashamed by handling the word of truth correctly (2 Timothy 2:15) and be pure and blameless for the day of Christ (Philippians 1:9-10).

Soli Deo Gloria,

Pamela Couvrette

(H/T to Pamela Couvrette) I never thought I would be posting something written by Dr. Michael Brown here because he has openly defended the teachings of Benny Hinn and Kenneth Hagin in the past. But I guess there is a day for anything.

michael-brownSOURCE: by Dr. Michael Brown

Dear Joel and Victoria,

I hope and pray that you will read this letter and that you take to heart the things I’m sharing. I write as a friend wanting to help, not an enemy wanting to hurt, and everything I write, I write out of love for God, love for you, and love for the church and the world.

I have said many times that I’m glad to see your smiling faces on TV as you speak about Jesus rather than some stern-faced, joyless, angry Christian leader. And I believe you genuinely do care about people and want them to find wholeness in the Lord.

Joel, I appreciate the fact that you end every service by asking people to get right with God, having them pray a prayer where they say to Jesus, “I repent of my sins, come into my heart, I make you Lord and Savior.”

The big problem is that you haven’t told them what their sins are and you haven’t told them what real repentance is. And since you are speaking to people around the world, you can’t possibly assume that all of them understand the meaning of sin and redemption and repentance. (Most American Christians don’t even understand these things today.)

In short, you have not shared with them the whole counsel of God, and by telling them only part of the story, you have done what the false prophets of ancient Israel did: “You superficially treat the fracture of My people saying to them, ‘All is well, all is well,’ when nothing is well” (Jeremiah 6:14, my translation).

A true physician tells his patients what they need to hear, not what they want to hear, as one preacher of old once said, “Ministers are not cooks, but physicians and therefore should not study to delight the palate, but to recover the patient” (Jean Daille).

Have you been more of a junk food cook than a physician? Have you been afraid to tell people their true condition? Have you been so concerned with making them feel good about themselves and giving them a sense of hope that you failed to diagnose their terminal sin disease?

Paul said to the elders of Ephesus, “I testify to you this day that I am innocent of the blood of all, for I did not shrink from declaring to you the whole counsel of God” (Acts 20:26-27).
Do you really believe in your heart of hearts that you have declared the whole counsel of God to your listening audience?

God has given you one of the largest platforms for the gospel in human history. Can you say before Him that you are “innocent of the blood of all”?

Have you ever taught extensively on the words of Jesus from the Sermon on the Mount? Have you ever worked your way through one of the letters of Paul? If not, why not?

Proverbs tells us that, “Whoever rebukes a man will afterward find more favor than he who flatters with his tongue” (Proverbs 28:23). Do you believe God’s Word, or do you feel you have found a better way to do His work?

I appreciate the fact that you hold up your Bible before you preach, as your father did, and you have people make a confession about God’s Word, as you also learned to do from your father. But do you really preach that holy Word?

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I was blessed today to get a good internet connection again and to run into an ex-occultist named Pamela Couvrette who dabbled in the Word of Faith movement after becoming a Christian. Her testimony and writings are very good. She has many great writings. And she is going to allow me to post any that I want here so she will be posting here as a guest writer. I will post a couple of her post per day and you can see them all here. THANKS PAMELA for caring and sharing with us. We are honored to have you “guest write”. I am sure your work will help someone by you allowing us to post your work. 🙂

joel say champion

SOURCE: I’ve managed to mostly stay off Facebook for the past couple of months, but today I logged in. It’s a breeding ground for heresy and today didn’t disappoint. To correct every post would take every waking moment. But there was a posted article that I can’t turn a blind eye to.  I’m referring to this article which asked “What’s the problem with Joel Osteen?”. I’m so glad he asked and I would love to address the author’s question.

Initially I was going to respond point by point according to Mr. Wagner’s article, but I’ll just cover the basics which should address most points. (Words in pink are from the article).

1.  “He preaches the most clear and simple gospel message a person could hear”.

What gospel is that I wonder? This article sums up Mr. Osteen’s gospel:

“God loves you and wants to save you from  life of mediocrity and small dreams. Therefore, if you believe in God and be obedient to him, God will give you a plan for your life that includes big dreams,  self esteem, favor, health and wealth, influence, a better job, a positive self image and a fulfilled life free of negativity”.

Of course this god would attract people! Even the World would love this Jesus. Sign me up! This version of The Law of Attraction/New Age/The Secret just might work!

And what happens when it doesn’t? “Over one million people have received Christ through Joel’s “Night of Hope”…” Which Jesus did they receive? 2 Corinthians 11:4. Are they healthy and wealthy yet? How long is their “receiving Christ” going to last if they are not blessed with a $10 million home?

Where is repentance and grief over sin, crying out desperately to the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved and delivered? Where is the resurrection? In fact, where is Jesus? This article reports that Joel Osteen repeatedly mentions god, but not Jesus. In fact, in 806 tweets, Jesus was mentioned once. Once. I had to say that twice.

I was a follower of Joel Osteen until I started actually comparing what he was saying to scripture according to 1 John 4:1.  Many years were a mass of confusion for me as I listened to proponents of Word of Faith. I’ve had chronic pain for over half my life. I also have hyperacusis (everyday normal sounds are excruciatingly painful for me). God wants me healthy? I would just like to type this without pain. Or be with friends and family without sound waves stabbing my ears. God wants me to have a “better job”? How about a job? Wealth? Come on. I’m sure you get the picture. Can you imagine what that did to my faith and my relationship with God? I was so preoccupied with attaining what the Word of Faith movement promised that obedience and mortification of sin took a back seat.

And I speak from a blessed, comfortable, 1st world, life. What about those in third world countries? War torn countries? What about persecuted Christians who are tortured for the saving gospel? What about those who have been martyred? What about the deaths of the Apostles! God had a plan for them and it wasn’t “self esteem”.

Now, what does scripture say? Matthew 5:11 says we will be persecuted on the account of Jesus and Matthew 10:22 says we will be hated. Is that the “influence” Mr. Osteen speaks of? It certainly isn’t free of negativity.

Romans 12:1-2 says we are to present ourselves as a living sacrifice and not to be conformed to this world. In Acts 9:16 God told Ananias how much Paul was going to suffer for His namesake. In 2 Corinthians 11:23-28 Paul says he was

in far more labors, in far more imprisonments, beaten times without number, often in danger of death. Five times I received from the Jews thirty-nine lashes. Three times I was beaten with rods, once I was stoned, three times I was shipwrecked, a night and a day I have spent in the deep. I have been on frequent journeys, in dangers from rivers, dangers from robbers, dangers from my countrymen, dangers from the Gentiles, dangers in the city, dangers in the wilderness, dangers on the sea, dangers among false brethren; I have been in labor and hardship, through many sleepless nights, in hunger and thirst, often without food, in cold and exposure. Apart from such external things, there is the daily pressure on me of concern for all the churches.  (NKJV)

How does Mr. Osteen’s message fit with this account? It doesn’t. (Ironically, Paul was speaking of these experiences to the church of Corinth because of the false teachers).

In 2 Corinthians 12:7, Paul speaks of a thorn in his flesh that God chose not to heal? Why? Many Word of Faith Preachers would say Paul did not have enough faith. That is what I thought for many years when God chose not to heal me. It’s a horrible place to be in.

God has used my infirmities to spiritually mature me and if healing meant I would go back to where I was spiritually, I wouldn’t want it. They have been gifts to me. Scripture is replete with the benefits of suffering. One of many benefits I have received is rightly dividing the word of God 2 Timothy 2:15 and 1 Corinthians 3:2 and Hebrews 5:12. It’s been a blessed and most undeserved gift to cause me to truly seek out proper interpretation of scripture. My relationship with God is abounding in many ways compared to my lost years.

2.  In Mr. Wagner’s article, those who are discerning and warn about false teachers and teachings are called “haters, attacking, slanderous, disrespectful, arrogant, divisive, Christian critics and I think he implied that we don’t have “hearts” when he said “-problem is in the hearts of the ‘Christian Critics’ (sounds like an oxymoron)“.  Well, we do have hearts, and even if we were all those things he called us, it wouldn’t be an oxymoron, because scripture says the heart is deceitful and sick (Jeremiah 17:9).

That being said, I find it strange that the very thing he seems to depise (Christians “attacking” Christians) is the very thing he is doing.

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SOURCE: I often talk about the Christ-less Gospel of Joel Osteen. Whenever people ask me what I mean by that, I always tell them this; Joel Osteen does not talk about the Christian Gospel. Joel does not follow in the footsteps of Paul and share this message.

Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you,which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve… 1 Corinthians 15:1-5

Rather, the gospel of Joel Osteen, the “good news” that he brings is that “God loves you and wants to save you from  life of mediocrity and small dreams. Therefore, if you believe in God and be obedient to him, God will give you a plan for your life that includes big dreams,  self esteem, favor, health and wealth, influence, a better job, a positive self image and a fulfilled life free of negativity”. That’s it. That’s what it’s all about. That is the sum of just about every book, every sermon, every media appearance, and every tweet of Joel Osteen, condensed into a few sentences.

That being said, there is something very important to understand about Joel Osteen: He does talk about God. A lot. You cannot accuse the man of not mentioning Him because he’s all over that. Here’s the thing though- Its never really in a personal sense. Joel talks about God, but its always in a vague amorphous sense. There is certainly nothing distinctly Christian or Biblical about it. There’s nothing doctrinal or theological about the way he talks about God. Rather He is an ethereal, shapeless, formless, customizable, singular being thing that is out there called God that functions like a cosmic vending machine whose sole purpose is seemingly to bless you and make your life better. Even when he mentions God, it’s not ABOUT God, but it’s about what God can do for YOU.

Why do I say “singular being”?  Simple. While mention of a “God” may be plastered all over his twitter feed, Jesus is Not. Joel Osteen rarely, if ever, mentioned Jesus. He rarely, if every, mentions Christ. This is true when you listen to his sermons, read his tweets, and listen to him on whatever talk show he’s touring. Let me give you some basic numbers

Just for kicks I did a quick survey of all Joel Osteen tweets in the last year. I can’t go further back, so we’ll stick with going back to July 8, 2013, which is a little more than a year ago. Out of Joel Osteens 806 tweets, not including any of his replies to other people, he mentions “God” 334 time.

Want to guess how many times he mentioned “Jesus”?


One time.

I figured that number seemed a little low, so I exchanged the word “Jesus” for “Christ”? And know how many times Christ was mentioned?


Two times.

In the spirit of generosity I though perhaps Joel was more comfortable using his real name “Yeshua” and searched accordingly.

No times.

How about “Lord?”

One time. And it was referring to God.

So this is where we’re at. This means that Americans most influential pastor, the guy with the biggest Church [43,000 members]. One of the most well-known and most recognized pastors with the biggest platform, out of 806 tweets this last year, in a Twitter feed that is not about his personal life, but rather serves to communicate his version of theological truths about Christianity and Faith for his 2.6 million followers…Joel Osteen mentioned Jesus in some capacity 3 times.

I don’t have access to the rest of his twitter account, but if you extrapolate the numbers, going back to 2009 when he joined, out of his 11300 tweets, he mentioned the name Jesus, God in human flesh, our great God and savior who was fully man and fully God who excruciatingly bore the wrath of the father on a cross and died and rose again in propitiation for our sins- yeah that guy… he likely only got mentioned 24 times. On a Twitter feed designed to share truth about the Christian life from a supposed Christian leader who tweets 2-4 times a day.

And know what? All three were at Easter. Nothing for the rest of the year. Which of course made me wonder “Didn’t he even mention Jesus at Christmas?” Nope.

Now of course if you look up to some of Joel’s favorite topics and main message he likes to communicate, he references to “dreams” as in to quote a recent tweet “You’re closer to seeing that dream come to pass than you think. You may not be able to see it, but it can see you.” 48 mentions.

How about “great/greatness?” as in “You have the seeds of greatness, don’t allow something small to keep you from God’s best” 365 mentions

Or how “favor” as in “Go get your favor, your dream, your victory. It has your name on it.” 32 mentions

And you can put any othe rof his favorite buzzwords in a search bar, and you’ll get scores of hits.

But talk of Jesus..and his death and resurrection…his salvation…his shed blood and sin….the forgiveness he offers….his grace and mercy…his loving kindness- there’s nothing even remotely like that there.

Like I said, Christ-less

[Contributed by Dustin Germain]

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | July 11, 2014

Kenneth Copeland Still Teaching Faith Is A Force

faith is a force copeland


By David A. DePra

SOURCE: Faith is NOT a force. Faith is a relationship word. It is dependence and reliance upon God. It is ultimately unconditional surrender to God. It is trusting Him, which includes believing Him. As you can see, faith is to govern our entire lives. We are to WALK BY FAITH in Jesus Christ.

This is important to understand because today there is a false teaching which states that faith IS a force – indeed, a force which YOU generate towards God. What this leads to is a whole array of other false teaching. First of all, it means that you can and must generate the, “force of faith,” that will act upon God and get Him moving for you. In other words, if you pray for something, and have faith, the faith you generate is a force which acts upon God, indeed, which actually creates the thing you want. From this comes the, “name it and claim it,” heresies. It also ties into the error that if you SPEAK something, it will come into existence, as is taught in the, “positive confession” heresy. Likewise, if you speak negatively, this will supposedly bring bad things to pass in your life.

False teachers have likened faith to gravity. They even say that God has faith! Of course, this is utter nonsense. Nonsense, of course, unless you have no understanding of faith. If faith were a force, then I suppose God would have faith. But once we see that faith is trust, reliance, and dependence, we see that God needs no faith. He hasn’t anyone to rely upon!

Notice the root error here: Error says that faith is a force YOU generate which acts upon God. The Bible teaches that faith is a reliance upon God and a desire for His will. Can we see the implications of each as to who is in charge? Error puts US in charge, and we use our faith to act upon God. Truth puts God in charge, and tells us to surrender to Him for His will.

There are other ramifications as well. If faith is a force, then faith is the power. YOU generate it. And it does stuff, or gets God to do stuff. But Biblical faith does nothing. It opens things up for God’s will so that HE can do it. Thus, faith is not power. God is the power.

The fact is, we have NO POWER at all. Indeed, real faith is the result of seeing that we have no power, no merit, and nothing about ourselves which obligates God to do a thing for us. Faith is the trust and assurance that all of the promises of God find their YES IN HIM. Not in us. Not in our faith. And not because we said the right words.

In every generation, it seems that Christians come up with a new gimmic as to how to get God to do what we want Him to do – although it isn’t usually put that way. Instead, we are told that God has already willed us to tell Him what to do. So we come up with ways in which MAN can do this. Does anyone see Satan behind this? He is. It is classic Satan, using religious flesh, and men of corrupt minds, to foster heresy in the church.

Let me be frank: It simply is not possible to teach such error and know Jesus Christ. It just isn’t. This teaching is the very antithesis of the gospel of grace, skews the basic essential of faith, and leads people away from a grounded relationship with Christ. If the Holy Spirit were truly living in such people, and they were yielded, how could such heresy go unchecked, and how could the Holy Spirit not convict them? Furthermore, those well-known preachers who do teach these errors have been continually approached and appealed to with regards to this teaching. That is not a guess — THEY say so on TV. Thus, they not only teach error, but defend it.

Faith is not a force. Faith is a relationship word. By faith we abide in Christ and walk with Him. By faith we see that we have nothing to help ourselves. By faith we surrender our lives to Him for His will and purpose.


Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

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