Posted by: Damon Whitsell | January 30, 2009



This GroupBlog has over 1,000 post on it,, from 8 different blogs. THE BEST WAY to use this GroupBlog is to click on the GroupBlog Authors avatars in the right hand sidebar. This will take you to a page where that GroupBlog Authors post are listed by title only. Since only 35 post are shown on each page., this is the best way to make the BEST USE of this MegaGroupBlog. Thank You for helping Us spread ***THE WORD on the Word of Faith***

The link below is a link to a great video series by Tim Martin from Watchman Fellowship. It is the best series on the Word of Faith Movement that I have ever seen. Done in a very irenic (peaceable) tone, this would be perfect for the WoFer who is starting to doubt the truthfulness of the WoF doctrine. It would also serve as a really good course to “deprogram” from WoF doctrine because it gives in depth refutation of WoF doctrine and WoF teachers mishandling of scripture.


**Best Refutation EVER of the Word of Faith Movements

Power of Words/Confession Teaching**



caomedian on word of faith


We are very happy to now have Justin Peters 4 1/2 hour Seminar in 3 videos

A Call for Discernment


WHY WE teach AGAINST the Word of Faith!!!!!!!

***See the rest of Pastor Jeff’s video teaching series HERE***


GREAT VIDEO: Dr. Steve Tsoukalas appraises the Word of Faith movement from a biblical perspective

Greg Koukl of says Word of Faith/Power of Words teaching is Occultic



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Posted by: papagiorgio200 | October 29, 2016

A Medical Critique of Dunn & Crowder’s “Pee Pee Miracle”

(Cross posted at RPT) This is an import from my old blog as well as an updated video file (made HD) of a post I did in March of 2009 in regards to a couple of heretics, John Crowder and Benjamin Dunn. A medical professor (from UCLA) we knew from a life-group my wife and myself were part of many years back responded to a question of mine in regards to a specific miraculous claims made by these two yahoos, what is known as the “pee-pee miracle.” In the following video you will see a travesty of the GOSPEL message in action.

In the background you can hear a girl laughing… I think they are laughing at the expense of these foolios. The Gospel didn’t visit those garbage people that day, entertainment did:

This video shows a miracle that — if true — the person receiving it would have been dead a long time ago. I asked a friend about this, he happens to be a medical doctor; OF COURSE I knew the answer, most rational people would. However, for some technical input, here is the question with the answer:

I asked this question:

  • “What would happen to a person if they couldn’t pee/urinate at all for 6-months? I know this is an odd question, but so are the people I am asking about.”

Here is his answer:

“Hi Sean…. with regards to your first question – if someone doesn’t urinate for 6 months usually they are dead. The bottom line is – they either have a urinary outlet obstruction or their kidneys have completely failed and make no urine at all. In the former case, obstruction will lead to renal failure due to the increased back pressure on the system. Anyhow, without intervention – renal failure and inability to urinate will lead to volume overload in your entire body as well as multiple electrolyte abnormalities the most common is elevated serum potassium which often leads to fatal cardiac arrhythmia. I hope this helps.”

— Assistant Clinical Professor of Medicine, UCLA.

  • Music during the text section is a song by Thousand Foot Krutch titled “New Drug” found on their album, The Flame In All of Us. (Find on AMAZON)
Posted by: papagiorgio200 | September 4, 2016

Televangelist Mark Burns Bio Falls Apart

Yes, when a campaign merely relies on “black” and “pastor” while not fully understanding the depths of false narratives typically associated with televangelists theology as well as one’s own self aggrandizement (ego) involved in such money making careers… you will invariably run into such issues as we see below:

Following links from “Pastor” Burns show we find some of his compatriots listed HERE.


SOURCE: Yes we know, he makes you feel good… and he’s sooo nice. But let’s be honest: he’s not good for you.

Here are 10 reasons why you should break up with Joel Osteen (and find a real pastor):

1. He takes Bible verses completely out of context and changes the meaning of God’s Word. A lot of times he only uses half a verse! This is not a mistake, girl-he’s doing it on purpose! No real man of God would ever do that. Ever! Anybody can hold up a Bible and wave it around, a real pastor dedicates himself to studying it, and then carefully and faithfully explaining it in context. A phony pastor uses it like a prop and pulls stuff out of it to make it say whatever he wants.

2. He tells you all the things you wanna hear, but they aren’t really true. He’s appealing to your selfish “felt needs,” because he doesn’t care enough to tell you the hard truth that would actually help you. He’s promising you all sorts of earthly comfort, prosperity and happiness, but those are empty promises-and you know it. He’s leading you on!

3. He isn’t giving you the really good news-the Gospel of Jesus Christ. You know, the message of repentance and the forgiveness of sins. He should be promising you the one thing a pastor can promise you: the free gift of salvation and eternal life through faith in Jesus Christ; but instead he’s puffing you up with false dreams of worldly success. You’re falling for that? Once he has ignored the true Gospel, he replaces it with the crazy “God wants to bless you, but He can’t-you have to do you’re part” teaching. Is he talking about the sovereign God who made the whole universe out of nothing, or is this a genie in a bottle who needs us to figure out the secret password??

4. He’s getting rich off of you-that’s not what pastors are supposed to do! Now, it’s true that he’s getting rich mostly from his book sales and other income sources (he doesn’t need to take a salary from his church anymore), but without the huge audience he gained from his church and it’s TV program he never would have become so famous and sold so many books. He is not really helping others to be successful like he claims-unless they all go out and start mega-churches that have TV shows and big-time book publishing deals. He’s at the top of the pyramid!

5. He has become so huge in popularity and influence, that people think he represents true Christianity in America. You know that’s not right! He teaches a “Word of Faith” version of Christianity that doesn’t come from the Bible at all-it actually comes from Kenneth Hagin, who plagiarized E. W. Kenyon, and Kenyon was getting ideas from Phineas P. Quimby-the same guy whose non-Christian metaphysical ideas influenced Christian Science. When Osteen says we can “speak things into existence” he’s talking about sorcery-not Christianity!

6. You’re falling for all that bling? Really?? A big fancy stadium, a TV Show, best-selling books… that doesn’t mean he’s telling you the truth! Are you gonna trust someone with your very soul, just because they’re rich and famous? Did you know that Joel Osteen only went to college to study radio and television communications-but he never even graduated? But worse than that, he never studied the Bible or theology at any Bible school, college or seminary-ever! He’s making it up as he goes! Real pastors are carefully trained in good doctrine-otherwise they end up saying things about God that aren’t true, and they lead people away from the true God!

7. He’s not gonna be there for you when you need him! He’s not a real pastor, he’s a millionaire celebrity! A real pastor sits down with you and carefully explains God’s Word, week after week after week. This guy is flying around the world, hobnobbing with Oprah and who knows who. A real pastor takes care of his sheep-he doesn’t just go onstage and give a little motivational speech once a week. These mega-pastors are completely isolated from the “regular” folks-just like rock stars, big politicians and movie stars.

8. He’s setting a bad example of a Christian pastor, and you’re setting a bad example by following him. Most unbelievers can see that this guy is kind of a joke (or worse), but way too many gullible Christians are propping him up, and we should know better. Basically, having an unqualified, Bible-twisting, multi-millionaire celebrity described as a “pastor” is a very big embarrassment to the Church. If we are going to be credible followers of Christ, we should have credible pastors; pastors who will “contend earnestly for the faith” and who will “speak the things which are fitting for sound doctrine,” not a guy who scratches people’s itching ears and tells them what they want to hear.

9. Admit it-you like being part of something really really BIG! It’s one of the oldest tricks in the book: you’re with all those like-minded people and you get to say “I’m a part of something really important and exciting!” It’s like you’re at the Super Bowl or something. It’s no accident that these mega-churches have exciting rock bands with light shows and giant video screens-they are manipulating you until you can no longer resist. Get a grip! This guy will never even know you’re name-you’re just another seat filler. A real church with a real pastor is not like this. You deserve better!

10. Here’s a list of shocking things you’re not supposed to know; Joel Osteen will NOT mention these Bible verses because he’s not a real pastor. Break up with him, and find a real pastor at a real church. You will be so glad to hear the true Gospel of Jesus Christ!

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | March 1, 2016

Suffer The Children – a film by Trevor Glass

For years I hear about this documentary film but have never seen it. It was very informative but also very sad and heart-wrenching. If you have lost someone who died from Word of Faith teachings, like I have, this will be very emotional for you to watch. But it is an excellent expose piece that should be shared far and wide. Please share this!!!

Posted by: papagiorgio200 | February 26, 2016

Jennifer Garner’s Return to “Faith”

While I appreciate her earnestness, if she is involved in T.D. Jakes “church,” I doubt she is learning anything of significance that I would call “orthodoxy.” Apprising Ministries has a video clip of T.D. Jakes and Joyce Meyer teaching the “little god” doctrine that is from the pit of hell (see Genesis 3:5). What I am finding out recently is that he is getting into bed with the “emergent movement.” From one set of errors to another.

I pray that Miss Garner and her kids, that she get involved in a healthy, well-balanced church… if she is in fact not right now. (For more info, see my post on Miss Garner)

word of faith radioThis 30 minute radio show gives a good summary and some refutation of Word of Faith doctrines. It’s worth a listen and sharing.


Posted by: papagiorgio200 | February 25, 2016

Brian Carn “Lifts” Prophecies from Psychic Cheryl Lynn

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(H/T to C.T. Jermin) — Brian Carn’s 2014 NYE prophecy for the Year 2015 is exactly the same as this psychic Cheryl Lynn’s 2015 predictions back in February 2014.

Posted by: papagiorgio200 | February 15, 2016

Jesse Duplantis Prosperity Gospel ~ 2015 Edition

Chris Rosebrough of Pirate Christian Radio ends his look at Jesse Duplantis’ cultic teachings of the Health and Wealth “Gospel” saying that Jesse is not on “team Jesus’ side.” Funny.
For more sound doctrinal discussions, see:

Posted by: papagiorgio200 | February 15, 2016

Robert Morris’ UnBiblical View of Tongues

Pirate Christian Radio focuses on Robert Morris’ false teaching on the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Enjoy the correcting power of Scripture as Chris Rosebrough looks Biblically at the issue.
For more sound doctrinal discussions, see: 

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 10, 2016

Positive Confession vs. Empathy by Stephen Rowland

careful what you say

Suppose your daughter walked up to you with a concerned look on her face, and started telling you about being really scared of certain kids at school who were known for bullying others. What if your response to her was “Scared? Don’t you know that fear is not supposed to play any role in a Christian’s life? By giving way to fear you are only inviting the devil to exacerbate the problem. Why be so negative? Banish fear in your life and start talking about how confident you are! Have more faith in God!” How effective do you suppose that “advice” would be in your daughter’s life?

Further suppose your daughter started complaining about some recurring pain she was experiencing in her abdomen. What if your response was “Don’t talk about pain, only confess how blessed you are by God! By talking repeatedly about your pain you are setting a law into motion – -what you talk about becomes reality. Talk about how good and healthy you feel — then your external circumstances will start lining up with your words!” How effective do you think such “motherly” advice would be?

Personally I think that most level-headed Christians, and just plain folks in general, would feel like nominating that mother for a “worst mother of the year” award. Bullying is a major problem in many of our schools, and it takes a concerted effort by students, teachers, and parents to put a stop to it. Teen suicides have often been linked to being bullied. Repeated pain in the abdomen could well be a serious indicator of appendicitis or something much worse; a trip to the doctor is in order. Unfortunately, however, there are quite a few Christians who have fallen prey to this strange teaching that we create our own physical reality by the words we speak. Supposedly if we only speak “positive” words, then “positive” things will happen to us, and conversely, if we speak “negative” words, then “negative” things will happen to us. This, many are told, is what “faith” consists of — it is taught in certain churches right here in the Columbia area.

It would be laughable if it were not for the fact that I have seen a lot of intelligent, devout Christian folks fall for it. It certainly is not traditional, orthodox Christian faith — if one could only step back in time a few decades prior in history and run that “teaching” by Christians back then, it would be met with shocked looks of incredulity. There is also nothing laughable about children being invalidated by ignoring their genuine concerns, fears, and health problems in the name of “having a positive confession.” It is more akin to folk magic beliefs in third world countries rather than the historic Christian faith.

Supposedly this is the same way God looks at us — we should only be speaking wonderful, positive things and never say anything that reveals our momentary fears, depression, pain, sufferings, etc. Isn’t it interesting that King David, one of the most revered Biblical heroes of the Old Testament, penned such psalms as “How long must I wrestle with my thoughts, and every day have sorrow in my heart?” (Psalms 13:2). How about “O Lord, how many are my foes! How many rise up against me!” (Psalms 3:1). Then there is that classic line “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Psalms 22:1). That thought was quoted by our Savior Jesus Christ hanging on the cross — oh my, the “negativity” of it all! An important point to remember is that these Psalms were ancient Israel’s hymnbook. It is what they used in their worship. In times of national distress they would sing these “negative” Psalms in their worship to God, fully expressing the depths of their misery. They knew that God was a loving father and would hear them in their distress. God wouldn’t browbeat them for expressing the fact of their misery.

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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 6, 2016

Ex-Word of Faith perspective on the Book of Job by Stephen Rowland


While in the Word of Faith movement God started dealing with my heart through that “still small voice.” The first thing that I noticed was that no matter how much they preached about how every one of us should be a “little Jesus,” I never did see any tremendous “mass healings.” Some of the leaders in the movement had sicknesses in their families just like everyone else; no one really walked in divine health all of the time. I also noticed that there were some saints of God who were obviously more spiritually mature than I was at that time and yet they had to deal with illnesses — while I was “healthy as a horse.” On the other hand I noticed there were some rotten sinner boys who were always quite healthy, and some wicked people lived to extremely old ages while some saints died early in life.

Their twisting of the story of Job was what really got my attention. There was a recommended little pamphlet entitled “The truth about Job” which made the following claims:
        1. Job gave way to fear because he was offering sacrifices for his children.
        2. Fear is the opposite of faith and thus is a sin.

        3. Job’s sin is what “lowered the hedge” of God’s protection and got the devil’s attention which allowed access to Job’s life.

A simple cursory reading of the first two chapters of Job dispels that nonsense. Job was not sinning, he was “blameless and upright” (Job 1:1). Fear is not the opposite of faith, rather unbelief is the opposite. A healthy fear of the Lord is actually the “beginning of wisdom” (Proverbs 1:7). There was nothing that Job was doing that got the devil’s attention, rather it was God who got the devil’s attention by saying to Satan — “have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him: he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil” (Job 1:8). After all of Job’s tragedy had befallen him, he worshipped and stated “The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away…” (Job 1:21). Contrary to the Word of Faith  claim that God never “takes away” (always the devil), Job’s statement is verified as truth in verse 22 “In all this, Job did not sin by charging God with wrongdoing.” The method was the devil, but the authorization was God’s.

The Word of Faith view on Job literally turned the story upside down in order to make it “theologically fit.” The little cracks in my Faith theology were turning into major fissures under the prompting of the Holy Spirit and I was realizing that my beliefs were so black and white, so cut and dried, so simplistic that they could not stand serious scrutiny in light of all God’s Word. When your view is that God is always good and the devil is always bad — which supposedly entails that followers of God are always blessed with good things and people who sin are always cursed with bad things — then the story of Job is a serious impediment. We were literally becoming “Job’s comforters” in putting the blame on Job in order to interpret the Scripture through our Word of Faith lens. Rather than judge believer’s spiritual maturity by their prosperity or good health or tragedy that befalls them, we should have judged by what kind of fruit they bore over an extended period of time — their love for other people and their works to help the helpless or how they struggle to keep all sin out of their lives.

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Today I got to interview tithing expert Ron Robey on my online TV show. He has written over 100 articles and 3 books on the topic. And he has a appeared on several well known Christian radio shows. Ron really knew his stuff and I did a good job of just asking questions so it turned out to be my best of 5 TV shows so far. This should convince anyone that tithing 10% to the church by compulsion is not taught in scriptures. – Damon Whitsell


Posted by: Damon Whitsell | December 21, 2015

EX-CHURCH OF CHRIST TESTIMONY: Tyler Morgan – How2BecomeAChristian TV

Tonight I did my first apologetics TV show @ It turned out good. I interviewed ex-Church of Christ member Tyler Clay Morgan​ on how he was an atheist, got saved in a CoC church, got abused and then became a Lutheran, and some about his pro wrestling career. Tyler did a great job and was very personable and I thank him for coming on the show and helping me kick things off. I will have CoC pastor and reformer Brandon J. Thomas​ on this Tuesday @ 8pm central time for my second show and I will be doing a weekly show every week at that time. You can follow the show several ways on the site. Please do so if you would like to watch future shows. Announcement post will go out a few hours before each show. THANKS -Damon.


I recently started an apologetics TV show @ and I would like to invite all ex-Word of Faithers to come on the show and tell their testimonies. This site has the best and longest list of ex-WoF testimonies on the internet but it would take this site to the next level of helping people if it also had many video testimonies from ex-Word of Faithers. I would also one day like to do a round-table discussion on the Word of Faith movement. Please pray that God will see fit to make that happen and if your a former Word of Faither and would like to tell your testimony please contract me through the comments page here or by email at THANKS!!!

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | December 19, 2015

Introducing The How2BecomeAChristian Apologetics TV Show


I am starting a TV show on Christian Apologetics @ My first 12 or so shows will be on the Church of Christ but I will move on to other topics after that and will eventually do some shows on the Word of Faith Movement.

My first guest will be former CoCer Tyler Morgan, who was an atheist 3 years ago who got saved in a CoC church but left the CoC because of CoC control tactics and spiritual abuse by the CoC. He is now a confessional Lutheran. He is a Christian Music Producer and used to be a professional wrestler, so it should be a good show considering Tyler has only been studying on his own for 1 1/2 years. He now considers himself a theology nerd and knows his stuff. The LIVE show with Tyler will be this sunday, the 20th of December, @ 8pm central time.

My next quest will be Brandon Thomas who grew up in the CoC, was a Congo member for 26 years and the pastor of a non-hardline CoC church for 9 years. Brandon now is a sports and street minster who wanst to come on the show to tell his testimony and talk about hardline CoC doctrine. I think Brandon will make for another enjoyable show.

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SOURCE: If Mr. Parsley really believed he had the apostolic gift of healing, why wouldn’t he go on his own television show and, before a global audience, receive the miraculous healing power from God he claims to have?

“Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.” John 4:48 (KJV)

Faith healer and prosperity preacher Rod Parsley has for many years made his living by dramatically laying hands on people, “slaying them” in the spirit and pronouncing them to be “healed” as they fall backwards in comical obedience to his commands. Now, faith healer Parsley has been diagnosed with throat cancer, and he’s doing a strange thing. Instead of having someone in his church with the “anointing” to lay hands on him, or go to another high-profile “healer” like Benny Hinn or Peter Popoff, Rod Parsley is taking radiation treatments at his local hospital.

Look at this ridiculous video from one of his “healing services”, where people fall down like Keystone Cops. What’s not funny about this video is how false teachers with false doctrine deceive people, promise things they can in no way deliver, and end up ruining people’s lives. Why isn’t Rod up there “getting healed”? Hmm…excellent question.

Parsley says this about his treatment: “Whatever medication I take, I stand against any side effects. I say, “This medication will do exactly what God and my doctors purpose it to do, and will harm me in no way.” The Bible says, Mark 16—and I’ve stood on this, “If they drink any deadly thing, it shall not harm them,” meaning whatever comes in to my body to help bring healing will not harm me, for I’m a child of God.”

Now we here at NTEB certainly do wish a speedy and full recovery for Mr. Parsley in his cancer battle, make no mistake about that. But we also wish to point out the true powerlessness of self-proclaimed faith healers, and the damage their false doctrine does to the body of Christ. We do not live in the days of the apostles, and as such, the apostolic gifts of healing do not exist in our present Church Age. This is what the Bible teaches us. Rod Parsley is one of the highest-profile faith healers on television today, and yet he is completely unable to obtain the “miracle healing” he has purported to be able to freely dispense to others since he began in the ministry in 1977.

If Mr. Parsley really believed he had the apostolic gift of healing, why wouldn’t he go on his own television show and, before a global audience, receive the miraculous healing power from God he claims to have? Why doesn’t he invite TD Jakes, Creflo Dollar, Benny Hinn or any of the others to perform a healing on him while the cameras are rolling? He won’t do that because it would be the end of his ministry, and the end of the ministries of any of his faith healing buddies when they publically failed to heal him.

So the next time you are tempted to go to a “healing crusade” and have a millionaire televangelist lay hands on you and heal you, just remember what they do when they get sick. They go to the doctors and the hospitals just like everyone else does. Does God still heal? Absolutely He does. Just not through a phony healing crusade by a powerless faith healer.

Because Rod Parsley is getting medical treatment at a hospital for his cancer, we can conclude the following:

  • Rod Parsley does NOT have the gift of healing
  • Rod Parsley’s church members do NOT have the gift of healing
  • Rod Parsley’s friends in the ministry (Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar, etc) do NOT have the gift of healing. If they do, then they are cruel in not healing their friend.

Which leads us to our conclusion:

  • Since neither Rod Parsley, his congregation, nor his ministry peers have the gift of healing, we must conclude that everything that has taken place in their “healing crusades” has been a lie. Let’s just say, as an example, 6 months from now Benny Hinn has another huge “healing crusade”, right? Well, what a tragic joke that would be for Rod Parsley who was denied a healing. Why are not all the modern-day faith healers stepping up to heal their friend Rod? This is what they have been claiming to have to power to do for decades now. So why can’t they do it for Rod?

Think about that. God gave you a brain for a reason.

Get well, Mr. Parsley, and when you do, go back to your church and start preaching the actual gospel. It’s time to get out of the “healing business”.

COMMENTARY by Peter Holmes:


THE DEADLY CONSEQUENCES OF THE FALSE “NAME IT AND CLAIM IT” HERESY. This is exactly why it is so dangerous and can be detrimental to one’s faith.

Although your sickness if very unfortunate, I guess, Rod Parsley, there is no physical “healing in the atonement”? I suppose you’re not “speaking to your disease”? You’re not going to “name it and claim it” to get rid of this cancer? Will you “bind” your illness? What will your congregants and followers say now? Do you just “not have enough faith” Rod, which is the excuse many Word of Faith preachers use when one is not healed or blessed financially?

I know this is not funny but very serious, however, I hope people who follow this teaching realize from this post that it is a false teaching.

Parsley, in his book, Renamed and Redeemed, asserts: “JESUS IS NOT SICK — I DON’T HAVE TO BE SICK.” Umm … o, really?

“I believe this is your time to receive the tangible transfer of God’s miracle-working power, and I want to encourage every one of my Breakthrough Partners and friends to send a prayer cloth along with your prayer needs to be prayed over. When I return your prayer cloth to you, I believe the tangible transfer of God’s creative power will flow into your life and birth your miracle! I believe God, Himself, will anoint you to reap a mighty harvest of your physical, spiritual and financial needs…” (World Harvest Church Website: Birthing Your Miracle, as of 7/14/99) A WHOLE LOAD OF BOVINE FECES OF COURSE!

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | October 23, 2015

Who Actually Prospers From Prosperity Theology? by Derek Beres

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SOURCE: If you believe with all of your heart and soul that you deserve success — and by success, I mean financial reward alongside the accompanying emotional transactions encountered in the process — then it shall come. I have foreseen this; I know it to be true.

The prosperity gospel is nothing new, nor is the train of thought guiding it limited to followers of Christ. Preachers like Joel Osteen and Creflo Dollar unabashedly preach such fortune: Your faith is measured by your success; by your beliefs shall you prosper. It’s a seductive notion, one inspiring millions of people, given the popularity of Osteen’s varied industries and Dollar’s widespread congregation, among many others.

Predating Osteen by nearly two centuries was Phineas Quimby, a mesmerist and healer born in New Hampshire in 1802. As the inspiration behind what would become known as New Thought, his philosophical system taught that God, or Infinite Intelligence, is everywhere — human beings being the major beneficiaries of such awesome divine power. Quimby wasn’t a doctor but he played one often: Sickness was the result of wrong thought, in some way implying you were responsible for your ailments — an unfortunate belief persistent in both Christian groups and New Age movements today.

Most importantly, perhaps, was Quimby’s notion that since we are divine beings, divine blessings in the form of prosperity are our birthright. Osteen agrees; in 2005 he wrote,

God wants us to prosper financially, to have plenty of money, to fulfill the destiny He has laid out for us.

One of Quimby’s favorite students, Mary Baker Eddy, ran with these ideas when founding Christian Science. She was influenced by the man to such a degree she was accused of plagiarism. Nonetheless, in 1879 Eddy founded the First Church of Christ, Scientist. From its humble beginnings in Boston (27 members in 1880), by 1936 the congregation was 269,000 strong.

Initially Eddy was also inspired by Indian philosophy, quoting passages of the Bhagavad Gita, which was in vogue for much of the 19th century in America. She later removed any references to the book; as Christian Science gained steamed, she wanted all the credit to herself.

She also denied any relationship to Spiritualism, a popular movement that claimed contact with the spirit world (even though the sisters who kicked off the movement later admitted it was a farce). Eddy’s preferred term was “malicious animal magnetism,” her fancying that people harm others through their “mental powers.” If the psychic hotline between divine and human was open, humans could travel along the same network to damage other sentient beings, which fits in nicely with the prosperity model: an unseen force checking your name off the list if you misbehave, favoring your bank account when your faith is strong.

New Thought was founded by Emma Curtis Hopkins, a former student of Eddy mostly inspired by Quimby. With roots in the 1880s, national conventions were followed by an international conference in 1914; by the ’40s there were 18 distinct schools based on New Thought’s foundation. The major focus of these schools included the development of one’s will power, the burgeoning self-help market, and, yes, financial success.

Money was on the mind of many, including Father Divine, a lesser-known figure who profited greatly from the poor and suffering during the Depression. An African-American preacher, the artist once known as George Baker, Jr. taught his Peace Mission Movement followers that he was God — he really took to heart the positive psychology aspects of New Thought. While most Christian movements were faithful to scripture, Divine was open to a little mysticism.

This approach worked like a charm. As Dax-Devlon Ross writes in The Nightmare and the Dream,

Divine’s image as a Godly figure was enhanced by the seemingly bottomless well of wealth at his disposal in the midst of the Depression. He dressed immaculately. He owned a late model luxury sedan. The suburban home [in Sayville, Long Island] was well kept.

A successful African-American in a white suburb raised the suspicion of his neighbors. A coincidence helped his cause greatly, however. After being jailed in 1932 pending psychiatric evaluation for being a public nuisance — a wealthy black man in Sayville was enough of a cause — the judge who sentenced him suddenly died. Divine’s followers took this as divine retribution; his street cred skyrocketed. By 1941, there were 178 churches under his influence, though it seems that most of the wealth stayed concentrated in his bank account.

Which seems to be the case with everyone preaching Prosperity Theology. Televangelist Dollar, a modern day Father Divine, was baffled when his Gulfstream III jet rolled off a runway in the UK in 2014. He launched a fundraising campaign to the tune of $65 million, stating it was a necessary purchase to spread God’s word. The backlash forced him to suspend his efforts, although within a few months his church announced it was indeed ready to prosper with a brand-new airplane.

Osteen, who some claim helped create the housing crash due to his advice that God will provide the resources for his congregant’s new homes, had no problem buying his own $10.5 million mansion in 2010. Osteen reportedly accepts no money from his church. His real cash cow is book sales, which, as quoted above, ensure people the Big Guy is on their side — and in their wallets.

Pseudo-mystic Osho chimed in about prosperity often:

Life needs money because life needs comforts; life needs good food; life needs good clothes, good houses.

Oddly he didn’t mention good cars, for his fleet of 93 Rolls Royces was a certain measure of his divine favor.

In his book Mystics and Messiahs, religion professor Philip Jenkins dives deep into the cult underworld that has fueled such thinking for over two centuries on American soil. He quotes a 1929 article about this trend relating to New Thought and Christian Science:

With its constant thought of prosperity, its opulent-consciousness, its belief in the limitless possibilities of the individual, [it] is simply American psychology on dress parade.

The philosophy of prosperity certainly seems to be an American creation. While other cultures have exploited its population under the guise of religious pretensions, the idea that infinite riches is available for everybody with a mind to believe, promoted by those who do indeed enjoy such wealth, is an old scheme that shows no sign of slowing. It’s like the lottery of religious lingo: Everyone has a shot, but really, only the ones calling the shots.

SOURCE: After lasting long enough to gain notoriety, comments on Joel Osteen Ministries’ Facebook page from a parody account known as “Joel Oldsteen Ministries” have stopped.

Posts can still be seen on the Facebook page for comedian Ben Palmer, the inspiration behind Joel Oldsteen Ministries.

In addition to being flagrantly irreverent, the Oldsteen comments are absurd.

“Don’t tell anyone I told you this, but when I finish a great sermon, I feel like ripping the bible apart and smashing it on the stage,” Oldsteen tells a commenter named “Denise.”

Asked for a comment about the fake account, a Lakewood Church spokeswoman said it comes with the territory of having a lot of Facebook fans. With nearly 12 million “likes,” Joel Osteen Ministries has a huge following that’s bigger than Oprah Winfrey’s 10.8 million, for example, but nowhere near Cristiano Ronaldo’s 103.6 million, according to CNBC.

“When you achieve a certain level of influence in social media, parody accounts are a fact of life,” Lakewood spokeswoman Andrea Davis said by email. “Satire is a part of the American way.”

The idea of Osteen smashing a Bible on stage or biting “a rat’s head off like Ozzie Osbourne” is wildly at odds with his homespun image and constant smile.

Most of the fake posts have a financial theme, depicting the pastor as overly interested in money.

Although he stopped drawing a salary from the church in 2005, his net worth is estimated at $40 million, according to Celebrity Net Worth. His books and related items generate about $55 million per year, the website states.

In response to a question from “Linda” about giving to the poor, “Oldsteen” says poor people will be fine if they buy his book “I Am” for $16.22. “For example, after they purchase they book, the could say ‘I am’ and then finish it with, ‘Out 16 dollars,’ ” Oldsteen stated in his response.

It’s unclear when Oldsteen started trolling the pastor of Houston’s Lakewood Church, the largest church in the United States, according to the church’s website, which cites Church Growth Today.

On Oct. 14, a commenter from Uganda alerted Joel Osteen Ministries’ Facebook followers to someone using Osteen’s photo as a profile picture and doing “ungodly things.”

Joel Osteen Ministries responded by thanking the tipster  for informing them about the fraudulent account.

The humor website also did a write-up about the fake posts and listed eight of them.






Posted by: Damon Whitsell | October 23, 2015

Joel Osteen Says Stop Debating People Who Aren’t Christian

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This comment is from the Narrow is The Way Ministries

Okay, this is the stupidest thing I’ve ever read. It’s a new low even for “please everyone” universalist Joel Osteen.

It also reveals the depths of his ignorance of the Bible, where in 1 Peter 3:15 we are commanded to earnestly contend for the Faith.

Or at synagogues across Asia Minor, Europe and the Middle East where Paul debated people daily, as recounted in Acts 19:9 and elsewhere.

Maybe Osteen instead is telling us HE doesn’t want to debate. What am I supposed to do, let people plunge into Hell without warning?

Osteen has officially plunged over the red line of “I’m now really concerned for Osteen’s salvation”.

This is the article from the Christian Post

Lakewood Church pastor and New York Times best-selling author Joel Osteen advises Christians to be “respectful” when engaging people of other faiths.

“I think [Christians should] take the high ground and respect where [other people are] coming from. What I’ve seen in life is most people get their faith or their religious background from their parents,” said Osteen to The Christian Post, noting that oftentimes Christians try to prove their faith by debating others.

“I always realize — because I travel to a lot of different countries with different people of different faiths — I realize this is the way they were raised and I think people will know who the Disciples of Christ are by our love for one another. So I think respect and understanding is [the] starting point.

“[I prefer to] really make them want something that I have [such as] peace, joy and strength. Something that would be enticing to them,” continued Osteen. “Respect is one of the characteristics of showing that we’re people of faith. That we love God, that we love Jesus, and that is that we treat people with, respect and honor. Even those who disagree with us.”

Aside from providing advice on how Christians can be a living witness in sharing the Gospel with people of other faiths, Osteen also discussed his latest book The Power of I Am: Two Words That Will Change Your Life Today, which focuses on the power of words, and encourgaing believers to stop speaking negatively about themselves in internal dialogue and external conversations.

Osteen suggests Christians should use the words “I am” and follow that up with statements from God’s Word about His people.

“It’s easy to go through life and say ‘I’m unattractive, I’m slow, I’m not as smart as my brother.’ Just these negative things,” said Osteen. “I give a list of 30 or 40 positive things; I am healthy, I am disciplined, I am focused. And I believe, when you’re constantly meditating on that, those things are attracted to you. You’re sowing a seed for it to come into your life.”

Osteen believes a lot of people are raised with negative ideas about themselves or have outside events, such as deaths and divorces, which pervert their perception along the way. Others lean more toward a pessimistic attitude naturally, according to the pastor.

He hopes those who read The Power of I Am will begin to turn those negative thoughts around to positive ones and start to build productive images of themselves in their minds based on what God has said about them.

“The real battle is taking place in our minds and thoughts. Because we all have negative circumstances. You can view them and get negative and discouraged, or you can turn it around and say, ‘God, thank you that you’re fighting my battles.’ It’s what the Scripture says. Rejoice in the Lord always and count it all joy when you face trials,” he said.

Closely following the release of his next book, Osteen is preparing to host his “Night Of Hope” event at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York, on Oct. 16.

“New Yorkers are people who love the Lord. We’ve been to Yankee Stadium twice and we just love being in New York. It’s a great place. [New Yorkers] are very outspoken and demonstrative. They clap, they sing, they cheer. It surprised me. I thought they’d be quiet, maybe a little bit cold, but I find just the opposite,” said Osteen.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | October 15, 2015

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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | September 18, 2015

Genie Jesus and the War Room Problem by John Mark N. Reynolds

We justify what we want to enjoy even when we should not.

War Room isn’t a good movie. I hate to say that War Room is not a good movie because I want to encourage Christians to make movies. The movie isn’t very well made, the acting is marginal, and the writing is wretched. Nobody talks like the characters in the film and the plot holes are very great. Trust me. If you steal drugs and money for your stash, you will go to jail.

War Room is a film that allows African-Americans a voice. That is a good thing, but a bad thing is that voice given To these characters is so sanitized and homogenized. This movie plays it so safe with the audience it hopes to lure that it betrays any authenticity.

If you enjoyed the film, I am not saying you are wrong to enjoy it. Enjoy. Yet know this: the fact that so many Christian films are wretched, overly written, and full of religious jargon is harming this generation. Do you want to know one reason for people leaving the church?

We have made wretched pop culture and called it Christian. We have taught lies and called them good theology. We have tolerated television preachers that shamed the cause of Christ such as Robert Tilton or Benny Hinn. I have a high tolerance for bad pop culture: I watched all of the third season of Star Trek and enjoyed it. I love the Hallmark Channel and I can watch any Christmas film.

The problem is not that cheesy is not sometimes fun (go watch Birdemic), but that cheese is almost all we have done. Nobody has to go to the multiplex to see Andrei Rublev every time. Sometimes we want some fun (Avengers!) or a date film (Notebook) and they don’t have to be great. I will watch any version of A Christmas Carol with you anytime. When  War Room is one of the better films in the genre, we are bloated on cheese . . . and it is American cheese not the real cheese.

I know some movies in the multiplex mock what we hold dear, destroy the values of the nation, and call evil good. We are tempted to love anyone who says they love us. But films like these are worse than honest hatred, because they are dishonest love. They tell lies about reality, God, and our own experience.

And yet . . . O.K. Perhaps things will get better. War Room is better made than earlier films from these producers. As I have suggested in the past, we can be patient while our younger filmmakers learn. We don’t want our criticism to cut off their experiments . . . as anybody who has ever taught student filmmakers knows. Nobody runs up to a student preacher and crushes him. Instead, we encourage and hope. War Room is  not a student film. . . Facing the Giants maybe, but this is part of a series that all contain the same basic error.

These filmmakers have had some time. They have made multiple films and the chief problem, the real danger, has not improved. The message of the movie is scary. The problem with War Room is that the Christianity isn’t really Christianity. Somebody is going to say: “Movies cannot contain an entire theology.” This is true. It need not. The difficulty is that all these films make the same mistake.

They worship Genie Jesus: not the real Jesus. Here is a basic fact: Christianity is a religion of the Cross. We take up our cross daily and follow Jesus. Prayers are the work of the soul and all our prayers are answered, but some are answered “not yet” or with continued pain. God sits in the Heavens and governs the universe. He desires what is best for me . . . but also for every being in the cosmos. I cannot always have my way in the short term in a broken universe.
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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | September 16, 2015

VIDEO: Tim Martin responds to the False Teachings of Andrew Wommack

VIDEO DESCRIPTION: Andrew Wommack is a Word Faith teacher who has had great success in spreading his message across the world. In this video, you will hear him espouse his heretical teachings, along with a sound Biblical response.

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BEST EVER video series on the Word of Faith Movement


Is Joyce Meyers a Word of Faith Teacher? Does She teach Word of Faith Doctrine?

prosperity gospelSOURCE: I recently read a news article about “evangelicals” supporting Donald Trump for president of the United States. The focus of the article, its case study, was Florida mega-church pastor and sometime religious television personality Paula White. Her church in suburban Orlando attracts about twenty thousand attenders and thousands more watch her on television and read her writings. She is emerging as a leading spokesperson for “American evangelicals.” According to most sources I read about her, however, her version of evangelical Christianity is what is popularly known as the “Prosperity Gospel.” The thrust of that theology is that God wants his people to be healthy and financially prosperous if not rich. If they have sufficient faith, expressed in the right ways, they can and should overcome poverty, live lives of financial abundance (if not luxury) and be physically well all the time—right up until they die.

I have written about this “gospel of health and wealth,” this “prosperity gospel,” what some call “Word-Faith theology,” here and in my recently published book Counterfeit Christianity (Abingdon Press, 2015). All across the United States and much of the world certain “evangelical” evangelists and pastors are promoting this theology as their primary theme. Its beginnings lie in nineteenth century New Thought—the movement begun by evangelist Phineas Quimby in England in the early nineteenth century. Where Quimby got it is unknown, but “mind over matter” philosophies were “in the air” in both Europe and America—driven at least somewhat by a vulgarized interpretation of German idealism that metaphysically connected thought and being as inseparable.

Quimby became Mary Baker Eddy’s “guru” and she claimed healing through his ministry of mentalism—mind over matter using positive thinking and speaking. She, of course, went on to found what is popularly known as “Christian Science”—one of the first and best known organized forms of New Thought. (The official name of the organization is, of course, The Church of Christ, Scientist.) But there were numerous other individual “practitioners” of New Thought and several religious groups grew out of the movement—Unity, Religious Science, and Divine Science of the Mind (to name a few). The common idea of all of them was that God’s power to heal and prosper lies in the human mind because God’s mind and the human mind are not separate but interconnected.

Several Christian writers picked up the basic ideas of New Thought without joining any particular New Thought religious organization. One of the best known and most influential was Napoleon Hill (1883-1970), author of the best-selling book Think and Grow Rich (1937). Sometime later several books were published with titles like Pray and Grow Rich. New Thought’s idea of “prayer” was simply positive thinking and speaking—a form of magic.

The beginning of New Thought infiltrating evangelical Christianity has been traced by several scholars to a healing evangelist and author named E. W. Kenyon (1867-1948). During the same time that New Thought was growing in popularity and influence, a new emphasis on healing through prayer was spreading among Holiness Christians—evangelicals who believed in the power of God to heal sickness through powerful prayer. Kenyon brought the two together—the evangelical healing movement and New Thought. To Holiness-Pentecostals who prayed for the sick to be healed he added the dimension of positive thinking and speaking.

The contemporary movement known as Word-Faith exists primarily among Pentecostal and charismatic Christians. The immediate “father” of the movement was Kenneth Hagin (1917-2003), founder of the very large and influential Rhema Bible Institute in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Some scholars claim he received his “name it and claim it” message about health and wealth from Kenyon. Hagin himself denied that and claimed both received it from the Bible and “revelation”—the “rhema Word” which is God’s contemporary revelation as distinct from the “logos Word” which is God revelation in the past—especially in the Bible. Hagin claimed the two are entirely consistent and that the “rhema Word” of contemporary prophecy is simply unfolding and giving new impetus to the Bible’s message that God wants his people to prosper and be in health. The method of prospering and being in health, according to Hagin and other Word-Faith evangelists is “speaking the Word.” It is not enough simply to think positively; one must speak health and prosperity into existence.

Many critical observers noticed strong similarities between this Word-Faith teaching and the ideas of a New Thought group called Unity headquartered in Lee’s Summit, Missouri. Unity was founded by Charles and Myrtle Fillmore (1854-1948 and 1845-1931 respectively) who, like Eddy, were influenced by Quimby (although less directly). Perhaps the leading New Thought popularizer was a man named Ernest Holmes (1887-1960) who many scholars of the New Thought movement regard as its purest and best thinker. His influence on the movement in the 20th century was pervasive and profound.

The precise mechanisms of influence of New Thought on Pentecostal-charismatic Word-Faith theology is much debated, but there is general agreement on Kenyon as a major player in blending them and transmitting that hybrid theology to twentieth century Pentecostal-charismatics like Hagin who, in turn, passed it on to popularizers such as Kenneth Copeland and Joel Osteen.

Another “strain” of New Thought entered into so-called “mainstream” Protestantism through popular Reformed pastor and writer Norman Vincent Peale (1898-1993), pastor of the historic Marble Collegiate Church (New York City) and author of The Power of Positive Thinking. A favorite saying of Peale’s was “Change your thoughts and you can change your world.” Peale is generally considered to have been Robert Schuller’s inspiration. He founded the wildly popular magazine Guideposts.

Again, the precise mechanisms of New Thought’s influence on Peale are unknown, but by the time he wrote The Power of Positive Thinking elements of New Thought were simply “in the air” in American culture. But Peale seems to have drawn on New Thought for his basic philosophy of success in life, blending it with “mainline Protestantism,” and handed that on to people like Robert Schuller. (Peale and Schuller belonged to the same denomination, the old Dutch Reformed Church now known as the Reformed Church of America.)

My question is whether this “gospel of health and wealth” through positive thinking and speaking, this “prosperity gospel,” this “Word-Faith movement,” this “name it and claim it” teaching, is authentically evangelical. It is a valid evangelical option? Apparently the national news media thinks so. They are labeling prosperity gospel preachers like Paula White “evangelicals.” And most of them do claim to be evangelical in some sense.

As often in these blog posts, I will include a personal sidebar here. As my faithful readers know, I grew up Pentecostal—within what scholars call “classical Pentecostalism.” We strongly opposed fringe movements such as the Latter Rain Movement that included belief in “manifest sons of God” (modern day apostles capable of living independently of natural laws). When the prosperity gospel first burst on the scene in the 1970s through books such as How to Live Like a King’s Kid by Harold Hill (1974) we “classical Pentecostals” by-and-large rejected it. That led to numerous Pentecostal and charismatic churches dividing. Suddenly, in a matter of a decade, most cities had at least one “Word-Faith church” dedicated to the gospel of health and wealth through positive thinking and speaking. Most of them looked to Hagin and his enormous ministry in Tulsa. Hagin himself was already well-known to most classical Pentecostal pastors in the U.S. He had been an Assemblies of God minister with a radio program. I used to listen to it (around 1970-1971) on Christian radio station KDMI in Des Moines—when I was just entering Bible college. I remember wondering why God would speak directly to a contemporary American evangelist in King James English. The Assemblies of God and other classical Pentecostal groups distanced themselves from Hagin and other Word-Faith evangelists and “teachers,” but their influenced grew nevertheless and many classical Pentecostal churches were eventually infiltrated with Word-Faith, prosperity gospel teachings.

Many, perhaps most, evangelicals and classical Pentecostals came to think of the Word-Faith movement, the prosperity gospel, as “our lunatic fringe.” A comparison would be the 1950s Latter Rain Movement which swept American Pentecostalism and divided it with the result that virtually every city of any size had at least one “Full Gospel” church that was influenced by it. (These Latter Rain churches claimed that they frequently had visible visitations by angels during worship services and that they saw “glory clouds” and “holy oil” appearing during them. But the heretical teaching at the heart of the movement was that of the “manifest sons of God” who, they claimed, rose above normal humanity—a kind of realized eschatology.)

I lived through the rise of the Word-Faith prosperity gospel among Pentecostals in the 1970s and 1980s. I observed churches being torn apart by it. For the most part classical Pentecostal leaders distanced themselves from it and many even condemned it as heresy. But many accommodated to it—to hold onto many of their members rather than lose them to the new upstart Word-Faith “ministries” being founded mostly by graduates of Rhema Bible Institute.

After leaving Pentecostalism and becoming Baptist, I thought I had left that particular controversy behind. However, my first full-time teaching position was at Oral Roberts University where I tried my best to counter the pervasive influence of the Word-Faith prosperity gospel teaching among students, many of whom were transfers to ORU from Rhema. Many Word-Faith evangelists spoke in ORU’s required chapel services. Oral Roberts himself seemed to be adopting elements of Word-Faith teaching. The university faculty, however, by-and-large opposed it which created tension on campus. One of my theology colleagues, Charles Farah, wrote one of the best books critical of Word-Faith prosperity teaching—From the Pinnacle of the Temple—in which he helpfully distinguished between faith and presumption. At that time many, very many, followers of the Word-Faith teaching were refusing medical treatment and discarding their much-needed glasses—as expressions of their “absolute faith” in God’s healing power. Many were racking up huge credit card debt and buying houses beyond what they could really afford—as evidences of their total trust in the power of God to provide wealth.

I thought this Word-Faith teaching, rooted as it is in New Thought and as strange and fanatical as it is, would never be taught at a “mainline” Protestant seminary. But a couple of years ago I was surprised, even shocked, when I sat in on a church history class at a so-called mainline Protestant seminary and heard a Hispanic professor, herself of Pentecostal extraction, extol the Word-Faith prosperity gospel as something very positive and good—especially for oppressed Hispanics and African-Americans. She asked the class of seminarians “What other theology can give them hope for a better life?” I quickly jotted down on a piece of paper “liberation theology?” and showed it to the student sitting next to me. He raised his hand and the professor called on him. He said “liberation theology?” She simply dismissed it as irrelevant without even attempting to discuss the pros or cons of liberation theology.

Now, according to news reports I have read, a leading Word-Faith, prosperity gospel pastor-evangelist named Paula White (pastor of a mega-church with about twenty thousand attenders and host of a religious television talk show) is being labeled “evangelical” by the media and being connected by them with Donald Trump—as his religious “point person” to connect him with “evangelical” Christians. This raises so many questions I don’t even know where to begin. Strangely, however, I think I do see a connection—between the prosperity gospel of health and wealth (as God’s blessings) and religious support for Trump.

As an evangelical theologian and church historian, however, my main interest lies in exposing the Word-Faith “gospel” of prosperity as non-evangelical and even non-Christian—at least insofar as it focuses with heavy emphasis on manipulating God to give one financial wealth, material abundance, and guaranteed health. This is a theology that blatantly denies God’s sovereignty, God’s freedom, God’s holy otherness, turning God into a cosmic slot machine. And it distorts prayer into magic. The whole focus of the Bible shifts and becomes human centered rather than God centered. And it is rooted in extra-biblical “revelations” themselves rooted in New Thought—a philosophy that teaches that the power of God to create reality lies dormant within the human mind and mouth.

I call on all evangelical leaders, influencers, to take a strong public stand against this alternative gospel and reject it as non-evangelical. It is, in my opinion, cultic in the theological sense. That the media are beginning to treat Word-Faith promoters of the “gospel” of health and wealth through magic as evangelicals is scandalous. The movers and shakers of evangelical Christianity in America and everywhere need to band together in spite of our differences and say to the media “They are not us; stop calling them ‘evangelicals’.”

I anticipate some objections. Some may recall that I have argued that evangelicalism is not a “bounded set category” but a “centered set category.” But I have also always offered the caveat that being “evangelical” is not compatible with anything and everything. There is a center and that center can be corrupted to the point where people claiming to be evangelical cannot be recognized as evangelical. The prosperity gospel of health and wealth is such a mutation of classical evangelical Christianity that it is unrecognizable as that; it is “different gospel,” one that holds out false hope to desperate people about a god who can be manipulated to, about “prayer” as magic, and about guaranteed health and wealth through pretending it exists when it doesn’t. I substitutes faith with presumption and places material “abundance” at the center in place of God who calls us to service rather than greed.

I am not saying followers of the Word Faith “gospel” are not Christians, but I do wonder about some of their leaders and their true motives. It’s the promoters of this false gospel I aim criticism at, not the masses of deluded followers many of whom are simply desperate people being seduced into false hope and counterfeit Christianity.

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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | September 10, 2015

Justin Peters Reviews the “War Room” Movie


SOURCE: If you do not know the Kendrick brothers by name, you almost certainly know them by their films: Flywheel (2003), Facing the Giants (2006), Fireproof (2008), and Courageous (2011).  Stephen, Alex, and Shannon Kendrick have just released their fifth faith-based film, War Room.  War Room, starring popular Bible teachers Priscilla Shirer and Beth Moore, looks like it may well be the most successful of their films to date bringing in $11 million just on its opening weekend; more than triple it’s $3 million production budget.

Given the popularity of Christian themed films and the considerable buzz about this one in particular, my wife, Kathy, and I went to see War Room on the evening of September 3rd so that I could write a review.  For those of you who read my review of Mark Burnett and Roma Downey’s movie, Son of God, you know that I am a bit skeptical of the Christian movie genre as a whole.  Nonetheless, I do want to offer what I hope to be a fair review. This review will not touch on every single facet of the movie or even on every theme it presents, but I do hope to address what I believe to be the most important of them.

Plot Overview

War Room is centered around Tony and Elizabeth Jordan, their ten year old daughter, Danielle, and Elizabeth’s real estate client-turned Christian friend, Mrs. Clara. The Jordan marriage is in serious trouble.  Tony, a pharmaceutical salesman who travels extensively in his work, is the kind of husband and father one loves to hate.  Though a hard worker, he shows little interest in his daughter and pursues a female work interest behind his wife’s back. Elizabeth, played by Priscilla Shirer, goes to Mrs. Clara’s home discuss the particulars of putting it on the market.  The meeting, however, went far beyond deciding on a listing price for the house.

Mrs. Clara, an older widow, is a Christian fiercely devoted to prayer which she does in a closet she has dubbed her “War Room.”  Mrs. Clara goes to war here, battling Satan who is portrayed as the source of every form of evil plaguing mankind. Rather than plotting troop positions on a military map, Mrs. Clara pins  prayer requests and Scripture verses on the wall of her war room, prays to God, and rebukes the Enemy.

Mrs. Clara begins to ask Elizabeth some probing questions about her family, marriage, and church attendance.  Upon learning that the Jordan family is at the point of collapse, Mrs. Clara exhorts Elizabeth to fight for her marriage in her own war room.

Slowly but surely, Elizabeth is changed by her newly found prayer life and by reading the Bible. One day in her war room, she discovers via a friend’s text that Tony has been seen in a restaurant with another woman.  Elizabeth immediately prays for her husband and asks God to stop him. God gives Tony a stomach ache in the restaurant preventing him from following through with his adulterous plans.

Shortly after this, Tony is fired from his job. Rather than the anger and sarcasm he expected to receive from Elizabeth upon hearing this news, she offered him love and support. The change he sees in his wife eventually changes Tony as well. He confesses his sin and turns back to God. He seeks and is granted forgiveness from both Elizabeth and Danielle, and the Jordan family is on the fast track of restoration.

Despite his new life, Tony is fired from his job.  What his boss did not know, though, was that Tony had been stealing drugs from the company, selling them and pocketing the profits. Though he had gotten away with it, his now sensitive conscience drove him to return to meet with his former boss, confess his theft and make restitution.  His boss could easily have turned Tony in to the authorities to face prison but chose not to do so. The Jordan family was spared the loss of being torn apart again just as it had begun to heal.  Tony eventually found a new, though less lucrative job, his family grew closer to one another and the Lord, Mrs. Clara’s house sold to a pastor and his wife, and all was well because of the battles fought in the War Room.


The movie was, of course, clean.  There was neither foul language nor any innuendos (other than what was about to happen between Tony and his almost-mistress at the restaurant) anywhere to be found.
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Paula White recently married Jonathan Cain, the keyboardist from Journey. Evidently, it is the third marriage for both of them.

Cain claims that God told him to divorce his wife and leave his kids. Shortly thereafter, Cain met Paula White on an airplane and they eventually got married.

Recently, they preached together on the importance of Intimacy in marriage. Jonathan Cain, in a major faux pas, encouraged the congregation to watch porn and admonished wives to “find out what your husband’s sexual needs are and meet them.” He said that wives should “educate themselves” and if necessary, watch porn to find out how to meet your husband’s needs. Paula laughed and quickly tried to explain and rationalize her husband’s comments, but they both sounded foolish. To hear the actual sermon with analysis by Chris Rosebough, listen to this episode of “Fighting for the Faith.”

As Chris Rosebough points out, pornography is the worst thing around, and no one should ever look at porn to strengthen their marriage.

Paula and Jonathan are a couple of wolves trying to fleece the flock! (text by Nickey V.)


These videos show Paula Talking out both sides of her mouth.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | September 7, 2015

Did Prayer or the Prosperity Gospel make “War Room” Number One?


SOURCE: Jurrasic World just passed one billion in global box office, nobody is drawing theological conclusions about it, though I am sure a few thank-God-for-Michael-Crichton’s have been said in Hollywood. In a weak Labor Day weekend, an earnest film based on the American prosperity gospel took in number one at the box office and has now made twenty-five million.

As a movie made on the cheap (three million), a few hallelujahs must have gone up at Sony. Somebody is prospering! This is a badly made, written, and acted film, but that isn’t new coming out Hollywood. What is new is the idea from the (relatively) small number of people who have seen the film is that God is behind this weekend’s box office.

“Prayer made a movie about prayer number one!”

Why would we think this so readily? Is this all we have been asking? God help us if we have been praying for movies while ISIS slaughtered more Christians over the weekend. Were we not praying in a “war room” for those Christians? Did God care more about making money for Sony than hearing our cry for the church of the Middle East?

Of course not, because prayer is our heart cry to God and not just a way to make demands in just the “right” way and have God answer our demands. God is not our Jeeves . . . a Genie Jesus who answers our prayers for a pony by giving us two ponies. He is a good Daddy and so, though He does delight to give us treats, Jesus is also eager to break us free of materialism.

There may be good reasons to root for this film, even if it isn’t very good, and one of them isn’t box office as confirmation of our theology of prayer. Perhaps most pathetic is the excitement that mainstream media is talking about the film.  If getting on the Today show is a mark of God’s favor, then Jesus failed. He was not mentioned in any of the “pop culture” vehicles of His time.

There is a good reason the film has done decently, one of which is this is a slow time of year for movies. Another is that American Christians have been ignored by American media and are an untapped market niche. This niche has been exploited by independent artists as the free market always does. If the product has been bad, and mostly it has been risible, then at least the bad product might provoke something better out of the mainstream media. War Room is bad theology and bad marital advice, but at least it does not mock Christians and Christian beliefs. If it gets Christians to pray, then wonderful. But if it gets a community already apt to “prosperity gospel”* more likely to forget that Jesus prayed, ““My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will.” and got the Cross, then that is not good.

Christians pursue the good whether it is successful or not. I have tried to make art and failed. I know how hard it is. The problem is when we could do better and do not.  We cater to our audience in artistic laziness.

Of course, prayer may have made War Room number one at the box office, no Christian would deny the possiblity. I believe in the power of prayer and God can do as He wishes, but success does not show God is blessing the film either. Many good films have done no box office and many vile films have done well. The fallacy that when a thing does well, especially as a money maker that is blessed, is common. I call it the “Mormon Blessing” argument since I first heard it from Mormon evangelists.

The Mormon Blessing argument works this way:

Mormonism started a short time ago.

Mormonism faced great persecution.

Mormonism has grown globally, showing God’s blessing.

To the retort that demons can also bless a movement with worldy success, the Mormon Blessing response is to say: “Mormonism has done great social good and brought many people back to a living faith. Is that the work of demons?” Since Mormonism has done great social good, this seems a decent retort.

The problem with the argument, of course, is that great success, even for a few centuries, means little. History is long and God’s plan is long. We cannot read the paper and discover what God is blessing or cursing. History is complicated! The historian Gibbon saw that when Christianity arose, western Rome fell. He made the simple mistake of blaming Christianity (in part) for the fall of Rome. This is the reverse of the Mormon Blessing argument.

In fact, Mormon film is sometimes of better quality than Evangelical film and has often done good box office relative to cost. Is God blessing Mollywood? I am often told that an emotional reaction in a film shows the Holy Spirit is at work, but what of the emotional pull of the Other Side of HeavenThis missionary film is powerful and moving, but it is, after all, a Mormon missionary film.

Bad things make money. Films with bad messages can make us cry or feel “warmed.” We cannot know we are blessed simply because we are making money. In fact, the Gospels suggest that it is harder for the rich man to get into the Kingdom of Heaven than for a camel to go through the eye of a needle.

So how do we know if God is blessing War Room? We know some kinds of prayers are always answered: prayers to know God, to grow in holiness, to see His face after death. We know He will come when we call, even if we do not always like what He says. We have long experience in documenting miracles as opposed to chance. God is the source and ground of all being and so we can thank Him for any good thing that happens and ask for help for the brokeness of the world. He hates death and suffering much more than we do! He caused none of it and has borne the pain of all of it personally.

I have no doubt people have been helped by War Room and I am glad for this help. God uses what God uses. He can even use me! And yet I know people turned off by films like War Room or encouraged to stay in abusive relationships and pray. The damage done by decades of bad American Evangelical television and movie making is real. We have not been fools for Christ, but foolish. There is a reason that wicked little films like Saved resonate with so many young Christians. They love the church, but they hate the smarmy culture that obscures the Gospel. Much of this is mere snobbery, but not all of it. My Christian school was nothing like the one pictured in Saved and so I found the film badly made, offensive, and untrue to my experience. Sadly, the longer I listen to students and visit their schools, the more I see that I was blessed in my school.

The pasted-on smile Christian who demands that we be happy and blessed all the time is real. I did not think it was real, but it is and it has done real damage.  It isn’t snobbery to marvel at “box office blessings” in a New Testament church that should be built on the Beautitudes! Blessed are the poor in spirit, the mourners, the meek, the persecuted  . . . in this age and the age to come.


*Prosperity gospel: Christians can pray, and should pray, for material blessing. Christians do not just expect to generally do well by doing good, but can demand to do well by doing good. Poverty is not blessed, but blameworthy.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | September 4, 2015

Justin Peters warns against Keith Moore’s trip to Heavan

Keith Moore tells about his trip to heaven where “the Lord took him to see his dad” that had passed about 3 weeks before. My question is why does the Lord not do this for everyone to help them over their grief,, why for Keith and not others. Oh, you have to be a word of faith teachers and a “man of God” for that. Please watch Justin Peters’s warning about people who say they have visits to heaven before you watch Moore’s testimony.

Posted by: papagiorgio200 | September 2, 2015

Inside Edition Investigates TV Preachers Living Like Rock Stars

(This may be a repost?)

john oliver

SOURCE: The Bible, Christianity’s principal sacred text, contains four gospels — Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John — written several decades after the death of Jesus Christ. There are also a handful of gnostic gospels, including those attributed to Thomas, Mary, and Judas, that the early Christian patriarchs didn’t include in the canonical New Testament. There is no “prosperity gospel.”

Prosperity theology — the teaching that financial rewards will accrue to those who keep faith with God — isn’t a “gospel” in the traditional sense, in that it doesn’t recount the life and teachings of Jesus. And it isn’t a gospel in the looser sense, either. Properly understood, the prosperity gospel is a form of ecclesiastical fundraising — tax-free in the U.S., as John Oliver recently pointed out — and incidentally a way to bilk the poor, take food from the hungry, and help augment the number of homeless.

It’s an “aberrant theology that teaches God rewards faith — and hefty tithing — with financial blessings,” as Christianity Today puts it. It’s a form of idolatry, a shady heresy masquerading as divine human empowerment.

Prosperity theology started in the U.S. in the mid-1900s, a beguiling and heady mixture of America’s two great religions — Christianity and consumer-focused capitalism — but it has spread throughout Africa and Latin America. Like the lottery and gambling, its pain is concentrated among the poor, and the house always wins.

In his widely watched Last Week Tonight segment, Oliver focused on the human cost of prosperity hucksterism, which promises blessings if people send in seed (cash) and an envelope full of misdirected faith:

In its first week, Oliver’s “church,” Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption, raised thousands of dollars — he was coy about just how much. (Oliver strongly suggested that he will eventually donate all that money to Doctors Without Borders, a fellow tax-exempt organization.) He does an amazing job pointing out shortcomings in the U.S. tax code, but he doesn’t discuss the theological problems with prosperity theology.

There are lots of them.

It’s not that there’s no scriptural support for prosperity theology. As Matt Lewis noted in his flirtation with the prosperity gospel, adherents are fond of certain verses from the Book of Joshua. They also cherry-pick sentences from all four Gospels, the Books of Malachi and Isaiah, and Paul’s letters to various early Christian communities.

If you stretch and twist your neck at just the right angle, you can even trace a crooked line between early Christian teachings on tithing and modern for-profit “seed faith” advocacy, as University of Mt. Olive religion teacher Hollis Phelps does.

But if you preach the prosperity gospel, you’re simply doing Christianity wrong.

Even if you peruse the New Testament as literature, not sacred text, it’s obvious that Jesus Christ never wanted his followers to chase wealth, and certainly not with a supernatural boost from God.

You probably know some of the more famous stories: The rich ruler who could not bring himself to, as Jesus asked, “sell all that you have and distribute to the poor” (Luke 18:18-24); Jesus explaining how “it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God” (Matthew 19:24); his exhortations that “you cannot serve God and money” (Matthew 6:24) and “woe to you who are rich, for you have received your consolation” (Luke 6:24). Paul is pretty clear when he preaches that “the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils” (1 Timothy 6:10).

“Jesus was born poor, and he died poor,” writes religion columnist Cathleen Falsani in The Washington Post. “During his earthly tenure, he spoke time and again about the importance of spiritual wealth and health. When he talked about material wealth, it was usually part of a cautionary tale.”

It’s easy to understand the draw of the prosperity gospel. Who doesn’t want wealth and health? And how much more righteous if there is a higher calling to get rich, a way to put your capital-F faith in a holy stock market?

But it’s not consistent with the teachings of Jesus Christ. Jesus isn’t your hedge fund manager.

Now, Christianity isn’t supposed to make adherents miserable or wallow in suffering. But it also doesn’t promise happiness, per se. It’s aiming higher than that. Christianity aspires to joyfulness, which is something different and less fleeting than happiness. C.S. Lewis tries to explain the difference in Surprised by Joy — joy being the feeling he says he experienced in the moment of his conversion to Christianity:

It is…an unsatisfied desire which is itself more desirable than any satisfaction. I call it Joy, which is here a technical term and must be sharply distinguished both from Happiness and from Pleasure. Joy (in my sense) has indeed one characteristic, and one only, in common with them; the fact that anyone who has experienced it will want it again… It might almost equally well be called a particular kind of unhappiness or or grief. But then it is a kind we want. I doubt whether anyone who has tasted it would ever, if both were in his power, exchange it for all the pleasures in the world. But then Joy is never in our power and pleasure often is…. [Surprised by Joy]

Money can’t buy happiness, and it certainly can’t purchase joy. It can buy pleasure, however, and in fact we get pleasure from buying things (though the chemical that brings us pleasure, dopamine, also feeds addiction, so). That’s great for the American economy. The teachings of Jesus Christ would have you do something more selfless with your money — giving it to the poor, probably.

I won’t presume to speak for God, but I can tell you that Creflo Dollar isn’t poor. Nor are Joel and Victoria Osteen, T.D. Jakes, Pat Robertson, Robert Tilton, Kenneth and Gloria Copeland, or any of the other evangelists spreading the prosperity gospel on TV and in their large churches.

I’ll leave the casting of stones (mostly) to John Oliver. And I’ll leave it to the prosperity hucksters to figure out how they’re going to get their latter-day camels (luxury private jets) through the eye of that needle.

But I will strongly suggest that prosperity gospel evangelists find a religious tradition that more closely aligns with their goals. And if they can’t find one, make one up. As Oliver notes, the IRS won’t treat them any differently.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | August 28, 2015


instead of building mega churches

prosperity gosle preaches

SOURCE: few weeks ago on Last Week Tonight, John Oliver exposed televangelists—evangelical preachers whose sole purpose is to get on TV and ask for funds for their ministries—who prey on the sick, poor, and desperate in order to line their own pockets, funding lavish lifestyles that include mansions, airplanes, cars, vacations, and more.

Toward the end of the segment, which quickly went viral, Oliver revealed that he had incorporated his own church without any restrictions. Called “Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption,” it worships the deity of the powerful and lenient IRS. Oliver said he would begin accepting “seed money” to build his new church, which would help him to cure people’s ailments.

If that seems like a comedic bit, perhaps the most terrifying thing should be how little John Oliver had to act for the sketch. He merely repeated things that real televangelists, such as Creflo Dollar, Robert Tilton, T.D. Jakes, Joel Osteen, and Kenneth Copeland, have actually said.

Those televangelists follow the model of “prosperity gospel” in which they believe that wealth is a sign of God’s favor, and that by simply believing and praying for money—in addition to donating copious amounts of money to various Christian ministries—is what will take you there. This is actually a rare belief among fundamentalists, with only 7 percent of evangelical Protestant leaders saying that they believe in the concepts of prosperity theology. The 7 percent who do, however, have amassed a large amount of wealth, power, and huge audiences to beg for donations.

Not surprisingly, most of the victims of this harmful prosperity doctrine are those in the poor and working class—it’s like a monstrous pyramid scam of religions. They see prosperity theology as a supernatural lottery, which isn’t shocking, considering that 61 percent of people who play the lottery are from the poorest one-fifths of the population. But these televangelists claim that your faith, your very soul, is tied into giving “positive confessions.” And the fact that you are poor isn’t just bad luck: it’s not having enough faith, not praying enough, and, of course, not giving a big enough donation to their ministry.

How do televangelists get away with this? It’s easy. It’s the same method the Church of Scientology employs: getting 501(c)(3) status and declaring your corrupt, poor-robbing business model a “ministry,” which, as John Oliver demonstrated, is a painfully simple process. They then ask for large tax-exempt donations and keep as much of it as possible to buy acres of land, mansions, and jets worth $65 million. Joel Osteen, pastor of megachurch Lakewood Church in Texas, for example, lives in a 17,000 square foot home worth $10.5 million dollars. His entire net worth is estimated to be about $40 million.

The greed of scheming televangelists is just another symptom of a predatory line of thinking among the rich and powerful driven to further atrociousness by attaching the name of God to their actions. Just as Josh Duggar preyed on his sisters and hid his infidelity behind his position of power and fame, offering an apology only when he was caught, there’s a level of horrific hypocrisy espoused by those who claim to live for God and then go on to repeatedly take advantage of the people around them.
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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | August 27, 2015

JOEL OSTEEN: “This is my Bible” (The Real One)

This is my Bible.

I am who it says I am. Matthew 5:16
I can do what it says I can do. Philippians 4:13
I am going where it says I will go. John 14:3
God’s Word is milk for my soul. 1 Peter 2:2
God’s Word is seed for my faith. Luke 8:11
God’s Word is light for my path. Psalm 119:105
God’s Word is power for my victory. Hebrews 4:12
God’s Word is freedom for my life. John 8:32
When I read God’s Word, it brings me joy. Jeremiah 15:16
When I study God’s Word, it keeps me from shame. 2 Timothy 2:15
When I memorize God’s Word, it purifies my heart. Psalm 119:11
When I quote God’s Word, it defeats my enemies. Ephesians 6:10, 17
When I meditate on God’s Word, it brings me success. Joshua 1:8
When I abide in God’s Word, it gives me confidence. John 15:7

this is my bibles

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | August 24, 2015

Celebrating 1,000 post on this blog

100 POST

zimbabwe preachers

SOURCE: HARARE- RELIGION is the opium of the masses, German economist Karl Marx, is famously quoted as having said about 170 years ago.

Various interpretations have been presented with most scholars arguing that Marx intimated that religion is used by oppressors to make people feel better about the distress they experience due to being poor and exploited.

Marx’s quote resonates with Zimbabweans as an increasing number of weary citizens flock to churches due to the comatose economy as it gets increasingly clear President Robert Mugabe’s Zanu PF administration appears clueless in addressing the economic meltdown.

Critics point out the harsh economic conditions have seen a proliferation of false-prophets and other brief-case churches that are taking advantage of the suffering citizens who are turning to God in droves seeking for salvation.

But reports have also been awash some of the so-called men of God are fraudsters bent on making quick bucks taking advantage of the masses with the most prosperous pastors raking in more than $200 000 every Sunday in tithes.

Others cruise in state-of-the-art vehicles courtesy of church members. For instance the founder of Christ Embassy Church Uebert Angel was sucked in an allegedly fraudulent acquisition of a $300 000 Bentley Continental sedan while self-anointed prophet Walter Magaya has been in the news after his wife’s state-of-the-art vehicle was fraudulently cleared.

In the case of Angel, Ndabazinenge Shava — the complainant in the matter – told the court in February this year that Angel called him a year after acquiring the said motor vehicle and advised him to ‘‘seed’’ the Bentley after being promised he would get it back thrice fold after eight months.
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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | August 21, 2015

VIDEO SERMON: The Luciferian Gospel of Joel Osteen

Joel Osteen preaches the Luciferian Gospel of the “word of faith” movement or “Thought Power” of the 1800s promoted by the theosophical society of Madame Blavatsky, Annie Besant, and others. Joel Osteen’s doctrine is Satanic in origin; Osteen is a false teacher and a heretic.

THIS IS THE BEST POST ON THIS BLOG and I would like to see many more like this, the Word of Faith prosperity message is deserving of nothing but scorn and it’s preachers deserve nothing more than ridicule. The devils will flee if you use Jesus’s name or ridicule them. The only downside to this post for me is that it is non-Christians doing the job of exposing these charlatans rather than Christians. This could be done without the expletives by any Christian comedian and while he might lose some fans he would for sure gain many new ones.  Although this video does contain bleeped expletives it is very effective, I think, at casting shame where it should be – on the heads of these TV evangelist (just skip this post if your self-righteous because we all know what 4 letter words are getting bleeped out). This post only bashes WoF prosperity preachers and gives traditional churches the respect they deserve. PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE LIKE AND SHARE THIS POST WITH EVERYONE!!!

I thought I should post this first comment I got on my FB page about this video (feel free to send me a FB request, I would like it much). “I was just watching that this morning. I’m glad he distinguished between the real churches and the fake ones at the beginning. I was between laughter, thankfulness and sadness watching it. Laughter at the absurdity of it, thankful because God brought me and my family out of it and sadness at how many are still under it“.

SOURCE: Comedian John Oliver takes on the prosperity gospel by becoming a televangelist

John Oliver has “joined” the likes of Creflo Dollar, Kenneth and Gloria Copeland and other pastors who promise miracles in exchange for aggressive donations. On Sunday’s episode of “Last Week Tonight” on HBO, the comedian announced that he is now the pastor and CEO of Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption, which he describes as “a tax-exempt organization that you certainly can’t say is not a church.”

Like the ministries Oliver is satirizing, Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption follows the theological contours of the prosperity gospel, the subject of a lengthy segment on the comedian’s show. That segment began with Oliver noting that while many churches do good, charitable work in the world, he was going to focus for the next several minutes on “churches who exploit people’s faith for monetary gain.”

Oliver’s new church encourages its worshipers — defined as the studio audience for his show, which tapes on Sundays — to “silently meditate on the nature of fraudulent churches” and promises miracles in exchange for donations sent to an address the host gave out on screen and on his new church Web site.

“If you don’t send us money, God will be extremely angry with you,” Oliver tells callers to a toll-free number he set up as part of his new “career” as a televangelist. The pre-recorded message at 1-800-THIS-IS-LEGAL also tells callers who aren’t interested in donating money to Oliver to “get off the phone and find somebody who is.”

The prosperity gospel crept back into the news several months ago when pastor Creflo Dollar announced — then backed away from, and then recommitted himself to — a plan to raise $65 million dollars from his followers to buy a private luxury jet. Dollar has told the 30,000 members of his World Changers Church International in Georgia that God will give them earthly rewards in exchange for their faithfulness. The Georgia-based pastor has encouraged Christians to prove just how faithful they are by donating to his ministry.

“If you sow a seed on a good ground, you can expect a harvest,” Dollar said in a 2006 New York Times story about his prosperity ministry. On Sunday, Oliver picked up on that seed-and-harvest metaphor to explain prosperity gospel beliefs to his viewers.

“Wealth is a sign of God’s favor, and donations will result in wealth coming back to you,” Oliver said in the HBO segment. “That idea takes the form of ‘seed faith’ — that donations are seeds that you will one day get to harvest.”

Just 7 percent of evangelical Protestant pastors around the world agree with the assertion that God rewards sufficiently faithful Christians with wealth and good health, according to a 2011 Pew survey. In the United States, the theology has found a home in a certain area of televangelism, led by pastors such as the Copelands, Mike Murdoch, Robert Tilton and Dollar.

Oliver also read from months of fundraising materials sent by Tilton’s ministry after Oliver made a small donation, showing just how much money Tilton can collect from a single person with a few slyly worded letters. But it’s not the tactics themselves that drove Oliver to go ahead and found a ministry of his own. It’s the fact that the ministries, as churches, are tax-exempt.

“Robert Tilton, Kenneth Copeland and other pastors of their ilk have been taking advantage of the open-ended IRS definition of the word ‘church’ and procuring a litany of tax breaks,” Oliver says on Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption’s Web site.

While Oliver might be collecting real donations, which he says are tax-exempt, to demonstrate his point about prosperity ministers, it seems that the donations might ultimately go to a better place. Here is the fine print attached to the donation page of the church’s site:

“Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption may choose to wind down and dissolve in the near future. Upon dissolution, any assets belonging to the Church at that time will be distributed to Doctors Without Borders, a non-profit charitable organization that is tax-exempt under § 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code (EIN: 13-3433452) and which provides emergency medical aid in places where it is needed most.”

Televangelists were put in the political spotlight after Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) launched an investigation into several ministers’ finances. The investigation concluded in 2011 with no penalty for televangelists.


Fleecing the flock. How Corrupt Is Christian Television?

HBO Word of Faith Movement Documentary: A Question of Miracles – Faith Healing

Ex-Faith Healer Mark Haville Explains the Tricks of the Fake Faith Healing Trade

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | August 15, 2015

VIDEOS AND ARTICLES: Speaking Things into Existence is Unbiblical

…. and it is also Witchcraft veiled in Christian terms. The first video here is the first time it is posted to this blog. So if you do not watch any of the following videos or read any of the linked articles then please view this first video as the guy does a wonderful job and really knows his stuff about the Word of Faith Movement and teaching. I highly highly recommend it.

PROVERBS 18:21 – Are There Really Life and Death In The Power Of Words? (dedicated to Kenneth S.)

Mark 11:22-23 and Mountain Moving Faith. Does Joel Osteen have it right?

Can Man Supernaturally Speak Things Into Existence?

You cannot “speak things that are not as though they are

”So You Think You Can Speak Things Into Existence?

Some Commentary[ies] on Mark 11:23-24 (An Often Mis-Interpreted Verse By Word of Faithers)

And HERE is a whole category of post about the WoF being witchcraft.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | August 10, 2015

The ‘Prosperity Gospel’ Is Peddled by Magicians by Dan Delzell


SOURCE: Have you noticed the significant number of ministers in recent decades who have been promoting magic in their teaching? They truly believe that their very words contain the power to create and change reality around them. They teach people that man has the ability to speak things into existence the same way that God spoke the world into existence. They have been deceived into believing they have this power within themselves and in the words they speak out loud.

These false teachers have been seduced by the “Word-Faith movement.” The arrogance of this philosophy has led its followers to believe that God must obey our commands if we speak the right words with enough faith. It makes man “god” and it makes God our servant who is limited in His activity for us by the words we confess out loud. There is no humility in this doctrine and it goes completely against the letter and the spirit of the Scriptures. Man cannot speak into existence anything he wants to happen. It is up to God to decide how best to answer our prayers according to His will and His plan for our life on earth. The humble Christian prays in faith and confidence, but always with an attitude of “Thy will be done.” The Word-Faith promoter speaks magic words with the mindset, “My will be done.”

It is very much like the magicians who perform in Las Vegas and elsewhere. One magician explained the power of his words this way: “This source of the power of any word uttered for magical purposes is quite simple: The will of the magician. A word uttered by the average man will only reflect an immediate thought, usually directed towards no real end. That same word, uttered by a magician, can have an impact on the very fabric of reality.” It is no different with the Word-Faith teachers. They believe that their words change reality. They believe any of us can harness this power and ability just like God. You just need to learn how to speak things into existence the way God did.

These teachers have often been consumed with a desire to gain wealth for themselves and their followers. They truly believe that Jesus was financially wealthy while he was on this earth and that faithful Christians can also be wealthy if they have enough faith and speak enough “positive confessions.” The only time the New Testament speaks positively of wealth is for the purpose of blessing others with it – not for the purpose of living a lavish lifestyle and storing up money and possessions for yourself.

God’s Word says, “Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.” (1 Timothy 6:9,10) The Word-Faith magicians seek to get rich so they can enjoy an opulent lifestyle; and they teach their followers that it is good to desire money and to spend much of it on yourself. That is just the opposite of what Jesus taught and what the Scriptures make so clear about the love of money.

The Word-Faith teachers believe it is a strong testimony of their doctrines for them to spend millions of dollars on their own personal possessions and their own worldly desires. Most of their followers can only dream about one day being as “faithful” and as wealthy as their rich pastor. In reality, the Christians in our world with the greatest faith actually give away a large percentage of their wealth and choose to live very modestly. There is nothing modest about the “prosperity gospel” or those who choose to peddle it. They are presenting “another gospel” when they promote their magical path to financial prosperity. It has nothing to do with biblical Christianity.

Magic focuses upon man’s words. Christianity focuses upon God’s Word. Magic relies upon the magician to provide the power and the results. Christianity relies upon God for every answer to prayer and for everything that is necessary for godliness. Magic celebrates the magician and his magic arts. Christianity celebrates Jesus Christ and His cross and empty tomb. There is no room for magicians in the church of the living God. Let them sell their tawdry wares in Las Vegas along with the rest of those who trust in their own words to create reality. It is a cheap imitation of what our mighty God can do anytime and any place He chooses to do something for one of His children.

Jesus said, “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them.” (Matthew 7:15,16) The fruit of a faithful Christian is not the promotion of magic words for personal gain. It is the proclamation of the true Gospel and a life of humility toward God and service toward man. May our Sovereign and Almighty God deliver His people from this den of money making magicians. Such a den is far more dangerous to your immortal soul than a den of lions!

Dan Delzell is the pastor of Wellspring Lutheran Church in Papillion, Neb. He is a regular contributor to The Christian Post.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | August 10, 2015

Why I’m Against “Name It and Claim It” Theology by Equusstu


SOURCE: Word of Faith:

“The Word of Faith movement has many distinctives; although it shares teachings in common with prosperity theology, they are not the same thing. Additionally, many beliefs that the movement holds as essentials are often the target of criticism for having views that diverge from Christian orthodoxy. It emphasizes speaking, stating, or confessing verses found in the Bible, called the Word of God. The belief is that if one believes the Word of God and confesses it then the believer shall receive what they confess. This act of believing and speaking is said to be described by Jesus in Mark 11:22. The term word of faith itself is derived from the biblical passage Romans 10:8 which speaks of ‘the word of faith that we preach.'” – Wikipedia.

Practices of the Word of Faith Movement

Name it & claim it is just one practice from the word of faith movement. Some of the practices of the ‘word of faith’ churches can be deceptive. The minister may pray for prosperity for God’s people (which seems good). Later he’ll mention how giving of our time and assets for a greater good is a virtue of the true Christan (which is true). Sermons start to focus on tithe and giving (which is important). Then the suggested amounts to give become greater and greater. The lies begin when we’re told “If you give us money, God will bless you” (which is true to a point, but completely misses the point of charity. We shouldn’t give to get, we should give to be a blessing to others, just as God is a blessing to us).

At this point, “Name it and claim it” becomes a major focus of the church. We are told that if we ask for wealth, we will receive riches beyond our wildest dreams. If we ask for health, we will never be sick again. One minister went so far as to say that he hadn’t had a headache in 45 years – he didn’t mention his heart problems. The biggest problem with naming and claiming is when ministers say that it works because God has no authority over the earth, that He lost it with the fall of Man. These ministers also say that, since God spoke and the world came into existence, why can’t we do the same? The reason we can’t do the same is we are not God!

Ministers start to use sermons as a way to answer challenges from other theological figures. They’ll say things like “The diamond rings on my hands and the nice car I drive stem from my being a good Christian man”. This still seems fairly innocent, until they start to preach the worst type of insult to their congregation: “If you are poor, your faith is lacking”. Some ministers actually tell people that if they are not blessed with riches, their faith is lacking! The same is done with health, if someone is sick, they’re faith is lacking!

The “name it and claim it” sector, while devastating to the Church as a whole, is not the worst of the word of faith movement. For a minister to get so far off track that he would accuse the poor and the sick of being faithless, there are likely to be other problems with their doctrines. Spiritual experiences are given preference over sound biblical knowledge. They teach that Jesus and his disciples were rich beyond imagination, in an outright denial of Scripture. They tell people that in order to follow in Christ’s footsteps, we are called to be wealthy as well. How do we become wealthy? By naming and claiming our wealth. What will give us God’s favor so that naming and claiming will work? By giving as much as we can to our church, whether we can afford it or not.

I feel the need to stop here and specify that giving to a church is a great thing. Supporting your church is necessary for it to function and for it to help your community. Normal giving and tithe are not the problem, it is the motives behind the giving (and receiving) that can become corrupt.

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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | August 8, 2015

The Word of Faith False Teaching of Commanding Angels

“Ministering angels, I command you to go and bring back  finances from the north, south, east, and west. Protect my family that no harm comes upon them.”

This is the type of prayer I learned in the Word of Faith movement. We believed the angels hearken to the word of God. If we used our mouths to speak the word of God, angels had no choice but to do our bidding. It is also believed that when a person goes to heaven upon death, if you did not speak to your ministering angel, they cannot be held accountable for your lack because you did not tell them that to do.

There is no biblical support for anyone to command an angel. Angels were always sent by the God the Father. I have read so many twisted manipulations of scripture to justify doctrine.

So, where do Word of Faith teachers come up with this demonic belief? Besides the roots of Catholicism, they twist Hebrew 1:4.

Hebrew 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

If Jesus was made better than the angels, then man is made better than the angels. They justify this by mishandling the scripture “as Christ is so are we”. And since ALL things are beneath our feet, we can give commands to the angels.

Hebrew 1:4 is actually telling us that after Christ purged our sins, he sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high being made so much better than the angels as he hath obtained a more excellent name than they.

This, dear friend is a prime example of prooftexting. The scripture is not read in light of the previous verse.

Pulling scriptures out to fit our personal narrative is very dangerous and creates heretical doctrines. I urge every believer to read scripture in context. If word of faith teachers had studied and rightly divided scripture, they would see that Christ was actually made lower than the angels.

Hebrew 2:7 Thou made him a little lower than the angels; thou crowned him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works if thy hands.

Verse 9 But we see Jesus who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

  • God has not put the angels in subjection to man.
  • Jesus was made lower than the angels when he walked the earth.
  • Jesus was made higher than the angels when he took his place at the right hand of the father.
  • Man cannot command an angel to go out into the land and bring back material or immaterial pleasures.

Prayer is a form of worship and God alone deserves our worship. This is a doctrine of demons that caters to the lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and the pride of life. When the disciples asked about how to prayer, Jesus responded that we should pray in this manner…Our Father who is in heaven…”

The face of the angels do behold the father at all times, but the scripture never leads anyone to believe that they leave his presence because YOU said some words.

Jesus is our example of how to live this life. He did not pray to or command angels. If you have prayed to an angel or commanded an angel to get some what your flesh desires, repent before God for HE is faithful to forgive you. Be ye reconciled to God.

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