Posted by: Damon Whitsell | January 30, 2009

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This GroupBlog has over 550 post on it,, from 10 different blogs. THE BEST WAY to use this GroupBlog is to click on the GroupBlog Authors avatars in the top part of the right hand sidebar. This will take you to a page where that GroupBlog Authors post are listed by title only. Since only 35 post are shown on each page., this is the best way to make the BEST USE of this MegaGroupBlog. Thank You for helping Us spread ***THE WORD on the Word of Faith***

WHY WE teach AGAINST the Word of Faith!!!!!!!

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THEY DON’T CHANGE

The Distortion of the Dominion Mandate in Pentecostal Theology

by Erik Wait

In my first paper on “Taking Dominion for Christ” I discussed the meaning of “dominion” and how this is to be carried out in the preaching of the Gospel and taking all things under the subjection of Jesus Christ. In my second paper “Taking Dominion for Christ (Part 2)” I briefly discussed some potential misconceptions of what it means to take dominion. Namely, that merely controlling our surroundings is not sufficient but rather all things must be in the name of and for the glory of Jesus Christ. Taking dominion is about converting hearts, families, and societies. It is not about manipulating nature to suit our own ends.

However, there is an entirely different theological scheme that often speaks of “taking dominion for Christ” which is entirely out of line with Scripture. In fact, it has more in common with the New Age Movement and Eastern Mysticism than it does with historical and Biblical Christianity. This heretical form of Dominion Theology is often referred to as the “Word of Faith Movement,” “The Latter Rain Movement,” “The Third Wave” or “Kingdom Now Theology” and it is common in mainstream Charismatic churches and Pentecostalism. Some of the most well known Pentecostal Dominion Theology teachers include televangelists such as Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, Frederick Price and Benny Hinn.

At times Pentecostal “dominion” language can sound like the way in which Postmillennial Calvinists such as R.J. Rushdoony, Gary De Mar, Gary North or Ken Gentry may speak. But the Dominion Theology of Pentecostalism has absolutely nothing in common with the Dominion Theology of Postmillennial Calvinism. In the Dominion Theology of Postmillennial Calvinism the primary focus is on the preaching of the gospel, making disciples and refuting false doctrine and philosophies. The overarching scheme of this Dominion Theology centers on the absolute sovereignty of God, the kingship of Christ and the Great Commission of Matthew 28. The goal in the Dominion Theology of Postmillennial Calvinism is that the result of converting the nations the Law of God will be upheld in every sphere of life (family, Church, and state) as we pray, “Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.”

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Posted by: TWotWoF VIDEO ROW | March 6, 2010

VIDEO: A few questions for fans of the Prosperity Gospel

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | March 5, 2010

The Three Best Videos on THE WORD on the Word of Faith

We have dozens of Videos on this blog. You can see them HERE. Here are the best three in my opinion. Although the videos are long ones, I have watched all several times, and am very blessed every time I watch them.

Signs And Wonders Movement Exposed: THE VIDEO SERIES THAT EVERY CHRISTIAN MUST SEE!!!!!!

THIS IS THE VIDEO SERIES THAT EVERY CHRISTIAN MUST SEE!!!!!!!

This powerful 2 DVD set contains three full length documentaries exposing the signs and wonders movement. The money scandals, the false miracles and the manipulative methods of the likes of Benny Hinn, Paul Crouch, Morris Cerullo, John Avanzini and Rodney Howard-Browne are fully revealed on camera. This shocking material is desperately needed as a cure for the mass-hysteria and worldwide deception being perpetrated by this movement. The DVDs feature expert commentary from leading Christian experts in this field. Coded for all regions (such as USA and UK). Nearly 4 hours total running time.


Agony of Deciet: The Health & Wealth Gospel #1: Historical Roots of This False Religion VIDEO

Agony of Deciet: The Health & Wealth Gospel #2: Touch Not the Lord’s Annointed gods VIDEO

Agony of Deciet: The Health & Wealth Gospel #3: Miracles for Money VIDEO

Agony of Deciet: The Health & Wealth Gospel #4: The Cult of the Tele-Evangelists VIDEO

Agony of Deciet: The Health & Wealth Gospel #5: Negating Positive Confession VIDEO

THIS VIDEO IS A PART OF A 5 PART SERIES. All parts are 1 hour in length but well worth the time, as I have seen most every Word of Faith exposure videos. And in my opinion it is the very best,, this series is even better than Justin Peters series called “A Call for Discernment”

Mat 24:23-28 Signs and Wonders: Expository VIDEO SERMON

This one the best as it is all exegetical expository preaching. If I lived in London,, this is the church I would go to. Damon




Posted by: Damon Whitsell | March 4, 2010

Top 50 post on THE WORD on the Word of Faith

With almost 600 post on this blog, I thought it would be good for new subcribers to publsish this top 50 post list. Here they are. CLICK ON THE TITLES BELOW! Enjoy!

Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, Paul Cr 2,875 More stats
TBN Watch – NEW Paul Crouch Trouble 2,770 More stats
Marjoe Gortner: Proof that some Christia 1,085 More stats
Benny Hinn – Sow $1000 and become a Mill 1,034 More stats
Pastor Creflo Dollar SUED for Business F 1,022 More stats
False Teachers of the Word of Faith 980 More stats
THE TESTIMONY PAGE 936 More stats
VIDEO: Oh Lord, Won’t you buy Benny Hinn 846 More stats
Kenneth Copeland: 33rd Degree Freemason 806 More stats
Signs And Wonders Movement Exposed: THE 788 More stats
Word of Faith Pastor Fred Price To Retir 769 More stats
Ex-Faith Healer Mark Haville Explains Th 752 More stats
Drunk in the Spirit ? 728 More stats
The Word of Faith Seed Faith Money Scam 708 More stats
About THIS BLOG 691 More stats
Kenneth Hagin Bible Interpretation Versu 684 More stats
Ex-Word of Faith Pastor: MY Rhema Days 631 More stats
Benny Hinn’s Wife (Suzzane Hinn) files f 574 More stats
An Introduction to Myself [Papa Giorgio] 571 More stats
Was Kenneth Hagin a Heretic? 558 More stats
Word of Faith and Monica Dennington 551 More stats
Promise Keepers, Kenneth Hagan and Freem 548 More stats
COMMENTS PAGE 540 More stats
WoF DEBATES 491 More stats
What is Happening in the Charismatic Wor 482 More stats
Lessons Learned About Todd Bentley and T 465 More stats
The Word of Faith and the Kundalini Spir 455 More stats
Joel Osteen says Obama is a Christian: I 453 More stats
THE LEGACY OF The WoF 439 More stats
Lakewood Church and Joel Osteen on the R 410 More stats
The Great Healing Revival???? 389 More stats
Word of Faith’ers, Pentecostals, Charism 384 More stats
ANOTHER Ex-Kenneth Copeland Associate (R 381 More stats
How To Identify A Wolf? 377 More stats
Ten Myths About Church Leavers: by Alan 373 More stats
How to Fake a Healing 370 More stats
Want to know what God the Father thinks 366 More stats
All About Wofers (Word Of Faith Folks) 363 More stats
Last Days Revival or End Time Apostasy? 355 More stats
Word of Faith NEWS FLASH: Justin Peters 349 More stats
“Jesus” Appears on Wall at Benny Hinn’s 348 More stats
Is Kim Clement being led by Lucifer and 331 More stats
Does God want us to be rich and have a B 327 More stats
TWotWoF TV/RADIO/WEBSITES 325 More stats
The Word of Faith and Shipwrecked Faith 309 More stats
” I Get Criticized By Experts” Kenneth H 305 More stats
CHARISMATIC CHILD PREACHERS: Grooming De 300 More stats
When A Child Dies In The Word Of Faith 297 More stats
Baptist Pastor ask Southern Baptist Conv 291 More stats
Preparation Time 289 More stats
Posted by: Damon Whitsell | March 3, 2010

Fleecing the flock. How Corrupt Is Christian Television?

http://www.rational-persuasion.com/christiantelevangelism.html

Corruption has skyrocketed in every sector of our society. And the Christian religion is not an exception. A good number of the Christian leadership have been caught in corruption, hypocrisy and lies; deceiving us, and much worse, trying to deceive God himself.

But the problem is much, much worse in Christian television, Christian radio, and televangelism. Christian television has a mass appeal and reaches an immense number of people, many who only have this as their source of information about Christianity. In fact, Billy Graham said that he could reach more people in just one night on television than the Apostle Paul in all of his life. Christian television and televangelism in effect are the main, if not the only, representation of Christianity that many people have today. Any wrong teaching, distorted information, false idea, or bad image will be their only reference of this religion. For instance, Benny Hinn’s show “This Is Your Day” airs in over 130 countries over several different networks, making it the most widely seen program in the world. And “This Is Your Day” promotes every unbiblical doctrine that is to be advocated. But unbiblical teachings and false doctrines are just the beginning.

Many of these televangelists claim to have the power of God to heal the sick and perform other miracles; power which can be seen in every show, where large numbers of people supposedly get healed. But if just dozens of people were really miraculously healed, it would be very difficult to keep it from the media, which is constantly searching for news. A large number of miracles and healing would be a great proof that Christianity is the real religion. Nonetheless, no news about healing or any other miracle. Instead, what we see is witnesses and victims denouncing those performers, and documentaries and other reporting exposing them and proving them to be a fraud.

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[H/T to BLACKCHRISTIANNEWS]

On February 1st Suzanne Hinn, wife of famous televangelist Benny Hinn, filed divorce papers in a southern California court. The documents cite irreconcilable differences as grounds for the legal action. News of the divorce has rocked Hinn`s worldwide following and has already been used as fodder for critics of the controversial healer`s ministry.

Don Price, senior advisor to Mr. Hinn, stated in a Press release that “Pastor Benny Hinn and his immediate family were shocked and saddened to learn of this news. The couple has been married for more than 30 years, and although Pastor Hinn has faithfully endeavored to bring healing to their relationship, those efforts failed and were met with the petition for divorce that was filed without notice.”

Confidential sources have informed Christianity Today that the Hinn marriage has been in trouble for a long time and that the divorce proceedings were no shock to Benny Hinn. CT tried unsuccessfully to reach Benny Hinn and Mr. Price for comment.

Suzanne Hinn is being represented by Sorrell Trope, a legendary figure in divorce litigation. His previous clients include Cary Grant, Rod Steiger, Nicole Kidman and Elin Nordegren, wife of Tiger Woods. Mrs. Hinn was unavailable for comment. The couple was married in 1979 and have four children.

Lee Grady, contributing editor of Charisma magazine, told CT that the impact of divorce on Benny Hinn’s ministry will depend on the nature of their marriage problems. Grady also said that the charismatic world “has been shaken to its core in recent years by a number of high-profile leaders who haved divorced or had moral failures. Many charismatics I know are troubled by this, and they feel it is time for deep introspection, repentance and a rejection of the shallow, celebrity Christianity that has typified much of our movement.”

Reporting by James A. Beverley

Christianity Today

John MacArthur on How We Should Treat False Teachers

Part I and Part II

Posted by: TWotWoF VIDEO ROW | March 1, 2010

VIDEO: Benny Hinn PR Statement About His Wife, Marriage & Divorce

Benny Hinn reads three-page statement – details of what exactly, is, reportedly, filed at Orange County included in posting at http://girdedwithtruth.org – to his “ministry partners” live on-air broadcast at TBN.

Smoke and Mirrors. However, “Benny Hinn: Show Must Go On”

Posted by: TWotWoF VIDEO ROW | February 24, 2010

GREAT VIDEO: SLAIN IN THE SPIRIT – The Absolute Biblical Truth

[Thanks goes out to Redeemed Hippies Place for this one.]

This great video examines biblical texts used by those who practice being Slain in the Spirit.

Posted by: TWotWoF VIDEO ROW | February 24, 2010

VIDEO: Kim Clement says Haiti Earthquake was supposed to hit America

Posted by: TWotWoF VIDEO ROW | February 24, 2010

VIDEO: Benny Hinn, Heroin and Employee Deaths: Benny Hinn’s Bad Fruit

Benny Hinn, Heroin and Employee Deaths???

This news clip video is from the outro to video #1 from this series
Signs And Wonders Movement Exposed: THE VIDEO SERIES THAT EVERY CHRISTIAN MUST SEE!!!!!!!
http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblo…

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 23, 2010

MikeMcK’s Ex-Word of Faith Testimony

I was in the WoF cult for several years. I don’t think I was aware of Dollar at that time, but I can tell you why I got caught up in the movement.

The first thing WoF does is to play on your emotions. That’s why they have so many high energy, jump up and down song and then switch to slow songs that encourage you to just repeat the same words over and over. By doing this, you work yourself into an altered state of consciousness that is much more receptive to suggesting and because it causes a heightened sense of expectation, you begin to interpret even the most trivial things as “a move of the Holy Spirit”. It also plays on our natural tendency toward group think and the influence of peer pressure, making you believe that if you’re not having some sort of esoteric experience, while everybody else is (or, at least, appears to be having), then there must be something wrong with you.

I don’t know if they still do it, but little girls used to have a slumber party game where one girl would start by saying “Ha”. The next girl would say “Ha Ha”. The next girl would say “Ha Ha Ha “, and so on, until all of the girls in the circle would begin to laugh. WoF operates on the same principle.

Second, they work on your ego, telling you things like “Well, your family means well, but they just haven’t arrive at the same place you have. After all, they don’t even speak in tongues! But you speak in tongues, don’t you?” I was constantly told that my family and my Christian friends who were desperately trying to get me out of WoF were just being manipulated by Satan to “rob me of my joy” and they were just responding to the Holy Spirit in me.

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Posted by: TWotWoF VIDEO ROW | February 21, 2010

Creflo Dollar’s Disgusting Heresy! Tithe Even While Unsaved?!

In this audio clip notorious prosperity preacher Creflo Dollar claims that even those who tithe while unsaved can still receive “the blessing.” It’s satanic enough to teach the false doctrine of tithing but to say that even those unsaved receive the same “blessing” is abomidable. According to Dollar, overcome with emotion because of the goodness of God after the practice of tithing, the unsaved then decided to make Jesus Christ Lord of their lives. This could be the most abomidable thing I’ve ever heard from these demons!

(Aired 12/21/2009-Message Titled “Obey What You Hear” video can be seen by visiting Dollar’s Website Creflodollarministries.org in the Broadcast section)

Posted by: papagiorgio200 | February 21, 2010

Creflo Dollar says he would like to Shoot and Stone non-Tithers

(Museum of Idolatry h/t)

Prosperity teachers are getting bolder and bolder these days.

Posted by: TWotWoF VIDEO ROW | February 20, 2010

VIDEO: Prosperity Preachers and Lovers of Money (John MacArthur)

http://www.gty.org/Blog

Here’s the topic for today’s discussion: Paul commands Timothy to avoid those who are lovers of money (cf. 2 Timothy 3:1-9). And yet the prosperity preachers are not only tolerated within evangelicalism, they are given a platform and sometimes even commended.

Posted by: TWotWoF VIDEO ROW | February 20, 2010

VIDEO: Ex-Word of Faith Testimony – Pastor John Edwards

An Oldie but a Goodie posted for new subscribers

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 19, 2010

Benny Hinn’s Wife (Suzzane Hinn) files for divorce

Wife of televangelist Benny Hinn files for divorce

By GILLIAN FLACCUS

The Associated Press
Thursday, February 18, 2010; 7:37 PM

ORANGE, Calif. — The wife of televangelist Benny Hinn has filed for divorce in Southern California.

Suzanne Hinn filed the papers in Orange County Superior Court on Feb. 1, citing irreconcilable differences, after more than 30 years of marriage. The papers note the two separated on Jan. 26 and that Hinn has been living in Dana Point, a wealthy coastal community in southern Orange County.

“Pastor Benny Hinn and his immediate family were shocked and saddened to learn of this news without any previous notice,” Benny Hinn Ministries said Thursday in a statement. “Although Pastor Hinn has faithfully endeavored to bring healing to their relationship, those efforts failed and were met with the petition for divorce that was filed without notice.”

Hinn is one of the best known advocates of the prosperity gospel, which teaches that Christians who are right with God will be rewarded with wealth and health in this lifetime.

His TV broadcasts on the Trinity Broadcast Network, a Pentecostal broadcasting juggernaut, and other TV networks are seen by millions of people around the world nearly every day. He travels the globe in his ministry’s plane, named Dove One, holding events he calls “Miracle Crusades” that include spiritual healings.

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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 17, 2010

Kim Clement prophesies about Haiti Earthquake — AFTER THE FACT!

Kim Clement, Haiti, and the ElijahList – Prophecies after the fact are not true prophecies

by Bud Press, Director, Christian Research Service

www.christianresearchservice.com

February 14, 2010

How many times have we heard of a disaster, then listened to a modern-day “prophet” inform the public about his prophetic warnings months or even years before the disaster occurred?

“God gave me a vision a long time ago about that terrible disaster,” the prophet announces, “and I feel led to share it with you now.”

Not only do the prophet’s followers believe it, they do back-flips praising his name.

Then, someone pops up and asks, Why didn’t the prophet shout the warning publicly months or even days before the disaster? Good question, and one that needs to be asked more often.

Making a prophecy public after a situation occurs is prophecy after the fact. The more wrong a false prophet is the more it occurs. While Christians are commanded by Scripture to test all things (1 Thessalonians 5:21), prophecy after the fact is a claim that is almost impossible to test or validate. False prophets know this, and rely on their audience of followers to nod their heads in approval and take their word for it.

Prophecy after the fact is also prophecy of convenience. How convenient it is for the modern-day wannabe prophets, especially those whose popularity is suffering in the ratings department.

‘Spirit of unity’ or devastation?

Out of curiosity, I went to Kim Clement’s website, did a search on the word “Haiti,” and found the following, dated July 17, 2009: “In Haiti a spirit of unity is being released” ( http://tinyurl.com/yggadgy ).

But unfortunate for the Haitians, that “spirit of unity” turned into a devastating earthquake, where the death toll is reportedly 230,000 (“Haiti death toll same as Asian tsunami,” http://tinyurl.com/ylm3rtz ).

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Lorri MacGregor intimates how the false teachers of the word faith movement misquote and misapply key Scriptures in the attempt to deify man. She makes the point earlier in this presentation (not included here) that there are two key aspects to the cults:

1) They Deify Man;
2) They Devolve Christ’s Deity.

From these two cultic attempts come many of the false doctrines found in the Word of Faith and Emergent movements.

This video is a must buy/purchase and is the “copyright of MM Outreach Inc.”…

http://www.mmoutreach.org/

…this video segment is used by explicit permission. The purchasable video can be found here:

http://mmoutreach.org/wf.htm

Another resource that is a good choice is Hank Hanegraaff’s book, “Christianity in Crisis: 21st Century.”

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 17, 2010

CNN Mega Ministries and Money Report

A CNN interview with Ole Anthony of the Dallas, TX-based Trinity Foundation, which has been looking into the lavish lifstyles of the “blab it and grab it” TV preachers.

The ‘LA Times’ reports Creflo A. Dollar, senior pastor of World Changers Church International, preaches that God will reward his faithful with material riches. It is a gospel that has won the flamboyant, demon-possessed preacher a 25,000-strong congregation — and a Rolls-Royce, a multimillion-dollar mansion and a private Gulfstream III jet. Now a Senate committee is investigating whether Dollar and leaders of several other mega-churches have illegally used donations to fund opulent lifestyles. Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) has sent letters to six high-profile mega-churches, including Dollar’s in College Park, Ga., requesting that they hand over records of salaries, expense accounts, credit cards, cars and airplanes.’ Jesus came into the city of Jerusalem on a donkey,’ Grassley said in a telephone interview. ‘Do these ministers really need Bentleys and Rolls-Royces to spread the Gospel?’ Grassley has some other specific concerns. For example, he wants Paula and Randy White, pastors of the Without Walls International Church in Tampa, Fla., to document thier tax-exempt cosmetic surgery. And he wants Joyce Meyer, who runs Joyce Meyer Ministries from Fenton, Mo., to explain the tax-exempt purpose of a $23,000 ‘commode with marble top.’ Next we will look at a report documenting how the megachurches and pastorpreneurs like Bill Hybels, Rick Warren and Joel Osteen are fleecing the flock’ by offering a luke-warm gospel, giant screen TV’s, rock music & plenty of entertainment.

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Posted by: rickyd09 | February 14, 2010

Living with Stage 4 Prostate Cancer Update Feb 2010

It’s been a long time since my last post, as summer has gone by so quickly and winter is flying as well. First of all I want to give my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ All the Praise, Honor, and Glory for sustaining my life everyday. Spiritually my relationship with the Lord Jesus is closer than ever. This whole ordeal of living with stage 4 prostate  cancer has truly become a teachable moment for me. I am now in the 4th year of  chemical remission and  although my PSA level has risen a little to 0.82, the roller coaster of anxiety has subsided.

The treatment is basically the same  with a few new wrinkles, a shot of  Lupron every 3 months, Lab work, a B-12 shot monthly, and Effexor  for the “Hot Flashes” and a lot of exercise.  I am really feeling almost back to normal physically and emotionally, Praise the Lord!!!!! the hot flashes really take a toll on your mind and body. It feels like your mind is constantly in a fog and your body is always tired. But now I am feeling much stronger working out especially in weight training and cardio routines. For now the cancer is controlled and dormant, if it does become active again. Different medication will be the course of action and I will face that day as a soldier for the Lord Jesus with Him leading  and guiding me every step of the way.

I start each day with some quiet time praying, seeking the Lord and reading the Bible. Presently I am reading  1st Samuel, Psalms and the Book of Isaiah. The Word of God has been so comforting and inspiring to me. Bible study is on Wednesday night and how appropriate we  are in the Book of Job. Also every Friday as part of the First Baptist prayer and visitation team I go to the local hospital and pray with those who are on the list. I am a much different person now since I was first diagnosed with cancer and better off for it. For the Lord has strengthened me and has given much more compassion for those that are in need and have trouble in life.

Thanks for all the prayers



Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 13, 2010

The Word of Faith, Justin Peters and The RevelationTV Debacle

From WiredForTruth

Justin Peter’s was on UK RevelationTV and it is causing quite a stir. Check this well written article out.

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Revelation or Cover-up TV? A Young Calvinist’s Thoughts on the Justin Peters Debacle

Revelation TV

In a way, I’m not surprised by the story I’m about to tell you, but in a way, I am. Let’s start at the top.

Justin Peters is staff evangelist as First Baptist Church Vicksburg, MS. Justin, as well as being an evangelist and expository preacher, is known for a seminar he does around the globe called “A Call for Discernment”. Now you’d imagine that a seminar innocently called “A Call for Discernment” wouldn’t harm anyone, right? Well, this little seminar tackles some pretty hefty names – names which are close to God-like status in the Christian world of today. Y’know, the usual characters – Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar and co.

Well, Justin was in London this week, and his time on our sceptred isle included a visit to Revelation TV. Now, longtime readers of the blog will bear witness with me that I’m not the greatest fan of Christian TV in general. Revelation TV, however, tends to get a bit of a free pass from me, considering they have some good guys on their flagship show Live@Nine, formerly known as World in Focus. One of my all-time favourites will be the memorable debates between Rev. Angus Stewart, minister of Covenant Protestant Reformed Church and Pastor Timothy Ramsay on the doctrines of grace, which I discussed in a very “point-blank” article not long after it happened.

Well, one supposes that history never repeats itself. WRONG!!!!! In fact, to introduce some much-needed levity to the proceedings, let’s break and enjoy a personal favourite of mine revolving around the word “wrong”:

Having laughed sufficiently, let’s proceed in the story. Now, Justin was invited to the studios of Revelation TV to do an interview. Well, another favourite of mine, The Washer Man aka Paul Washer, was on there not too long ago and it was on the subject of “decisional regeneration” and it was quite the interesting episode, especially on a topic which many Christians disagree. Considering that went down well, I wasn’t expecting much in the way of brouhaha considering that Mr Peters has been on there before discussing the same issue (Bear THAT in mind…)

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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 8, 2010

Is Faith a Superpower?

Faith: A Superpower

FaithI have recently received an email with questions about some Bible verses on the topic of prayer and, more particularly, faith. I know many people struggle with the issue of faith. In many circles—such as the Word of Faith—the issue of faith is taken out of its Biblical context and used as a personal method for selfish desires. So, when I got this email, I was happy to reply. Below is the email and my response follows:

Email:
What does Mark 11:22-24 mean?
What does Matt 21:21-22 mean?
What does John 15:7 mean?
What does Mark 9:23 mean?
What does Luke 17:5 mean?
All of these are on the same subject, but I have never heard them preached in a “reformed” sermon, and I have listened to hundreds of them in the last year.

Mark 11:22-24 and Matthew 21:21-22 (since these are of the same reference, I will be using the former).

Matthew 21:21-22, “21 And Jesus answered them, Truly, I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what has been done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, Be taken up and thrown into the sea, it will happen.22 And whatever you ask in prayer, you will receive, if you have faith.”

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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 8, 2010

AUDIO: John MacArthur on Faith and Confession, Prosperity-Style

Here’s the topic for today’s discussion: John MacArthur’s clear examination of the central Word of Faith premise exposes the complicity of human greed in promoting the doctrines of demons. How do you think this plays out before a watching (and unbelieving) world? And what are the pastoral implications—how do you minister to people steeped in these doctrines? http://www.gty.org/Blog

Posted by: TWotWoF VIDEO ROW | February 7, 2010

Funny Word of Faith Song by Ray Stevens: Would Jesus wear a Rolex

Do my “profits” no harm….
Would Jesus Wear a Rolex
Performed By: Ray Stevens
Written By: Chet Atkins and Margaret Archer

As a long-time Pentecostal/Charismatic Christian I never thought I would be writing stuff like this. But now I must add my voice to the many others crying out against the tidal waves of false doctrine sweeping the church today.

Recently I received what I thought was the “call to preach.” I am still struggling with this at this point. (Note: the struggle is now over, I went back to school for my profession and not a seminary, but that misguided call was the genesis for this site).

In any case I figured I should learn some sound doctrine and get a seminary degree before I dared to stand up in front of people and tell them what God’s word meant. After all God’s word holds people who presume to teach to a very high standard. In retrospect a seminary degree is no longer in my immediate future so my writings are best cast as those of a beginning student so caveat emptor (buyer beware). (Note: two years after this was first written, my professional reducation is completed, and I have entered seminary part-time for a master’s in theology. I am still classed as a beginning student however. In retrospect that “call” wasn’t as misguided as I first thought.)

I really didn’t think that much more would happen from studying theology other than minor clarification and some improved knowledge of the Bible and of history.

Boy was I wrong.

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I will not deal with Jesse contradicting Scripture, and hence God, when he says: “God said they built it.” This is more of a historical dealing with the topic… and I must say, much of this is not me, it is Grant Jeffrey. This was in a debate via the internet and was before my proper referencing ability. Enjoy. Likewise, any links may be old and mot work.

Language Roots: Myth or historical Remembrances
TOWER OF BABEL; true history, ancient fairytale?

The Greek historian, Herodotus, about 500 B.C., described the structure, which then consisted of a series of eight ascending towers, each one recessed in turn, with a spiral roadway running around it as a means of climbing to the top. Babylonian legend (of which we’ll get to) asserted that it had originally been built by Nimrod, which coincides with the Biblical record. In fact, the region, about ten miles southwest of Babylon’s center is still called Birs Nimroud. The structure as Herodotus described it was more than seven hundred feet tall, of which three hundred feet remain to this day.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2010/02/beagley_verdict_comes_in_from.html

OREGON CITY — A Clackamas County jury sent a clear signal Tuesday that parents who rely solely on faith healing to treat their children face prison if a child dies.

Jeffrey and Marci Beagley were found guilty Tuesday of criminally negligent homicide in the death of their 16-year-old son, Neil. The boy died in June 2008 of complications from an undiagnosed congenital urinary blockage after his parents attempted to heal him with prayer, anointing with oil and laying on of hands.

They are the first members of Oregon City’s Followers of Christ church convicted of homicide in the congregation’s long history of children dying from from treatable medical conditions.

“This is a signal to the religious community that they should be on notice that their activities will be scrutinized,” said Steven K. Green, director of Willamette University’s Center for Religion and Democracy. Other prosecutors may be emboldened to take similar cases to court, the law professor said.

Prosecutor Greg Horner asked that the Beagleys immediately be taken in to custody. Clackamas County Presiding Judge Steven L. Maurer denied the request, saying the Beagleys were not a flight risk or threat to the community.

Friends and family reacted to the 10-2 verdicts with stunned silence. Marci Beagley hugged her mother in the courthouse lobby as both women wept. Other family members quietly stood by.

The Beagleys will be sentenced Feb. 18. The maximum penalty for criminally negligent homicide is 10 years, but the Beagleys likely will receive no more than 18 months in prison and could be sentenced to probation.

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Gospel of Mark

There is good Scriptural connection that makes Mark 11:23-24 a eschatological verse. Of course rabbinical use of “moving mountains” was a phrase referring to seemingly impossible difficulties:

…But it also shows that we cannot pray in faith for anything that we like. In this matter, Jesus was “thinking God’s thoughts after him” and willing his father’s will. That sort of prayer, if asked in faith, will always be answered, for it is praying that God’s will may be done (as Jesus prayed in Gethsemane). We can only move the mountains that God wants removed, not those that we want moved. “Moving mountains” was a phrase used by the rabbis to describe overcoming seemingly impossible difficulties; we must not of course take it in the literal sense. If we pray in this way, we can give thanks for the result before we see it, for the answer is sure in the will and purpose of God.

There is one other condition for effectual prayer: we must freely forgive others, as God forgives us (25). If we do not, how could we pray “in Jesus’ name,” that is, in the way in which he would and did? This verse may indicate that Mark knew the Lord’s Prayer, though he does not record it in his gospel.

  • D.A. Carson, R.T. France, J.A. Motyer, and G.J. Wenham, New Bible Commentary: 21st Century Edition (Downers Grove, IL: InterVasity Press, 1997), 968.

Matthew Henry speaks to the miracle of faith, which rightfully understood, truly is one of the most miraculous of all:

Now this is to be applied, [1] To that faith of miracles which the apostles and first preachers of the gospel were endued with, which did wonders in things natural, healing the sick, raising the dead, casting out devils; these were, in effect, the removing of mountains. The apostles speak of a faith which would do that, and yet might be found where holy love was not, 1 Co. 13:2. [2] It may be applied to that miracle of faith, which all true Christians are endued with, which doeth wonders in things spiritual. It justifies us (Rom. 5:1), and so removes the mountains of guilt, and casts them into the depths of the sea, never to rise up in judgment against us, Mic. 7:19. It purifies the heart (Acts 15:9), and so removes mountains of corruption, and makes them plains before the grace of God, Zec. 4:7. It is by faith that the world is conquered, Satan’s fiery darts are quenched, a soul is crucified with Christ, and yet lives; by faith we set the Lord always before us, and see him that is invisible, and have him present to our minds; and this is effectual to remove mountains, for at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the God of Jacob, the mountains were not only moved, but removed, Ps. 114:4-7.

  • Matthew Henry, Matthew Henry’s Commentary on the Whole Bible : Complete and Unabridged in One Volume (Peabody: Hendrickson, 1996), Mk 11:12.

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By Jamie Biesiada http://starnewsgroup.com/weekly/2010/02.04.10/time_runs_ou_02.04.10_69181.html?featured=*

WALL TOWNSHIP — The members and pastors prayed for a miracle and hoped for a last-minute reprieve, but time ran out for help to arrive, and Shore Christian Center was officially evicted yesterday morning from its home on Squankum Road, here.

A somber group of two congregation members and a church elder, who declined comment and withheld their names, left the complex yesterday as David Spector, of Waring Investments, the Clifton-based mortgage holder that foreclosed on the church, and the company’s lawyer, David Grantz, of the law firm Meyner and Landis, had a locksmith change the locks on all the buildings.

Officers from the Monmouth County Sheriff’s Office oversaw the peaceful eviction, which took place at 10 a.m.

Nina Lane, the church’s financial secretary, informed sheriff’s officers that all of the church’s belongings had already been removed from the complex. She declined further comment.

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Christian Today Reports on AF44 Controversy

http://kennethcopelandblog.com/

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Advocates of our KennethCopelandBlog.com redemptive project will be thrilled to know (as we are) that we are making tremendous progress in holding the Copeland family and ministry to a biblical standard of conduct and financial integrity. Here is the latest…

Christian Today, an online Christian news service, has posted a report concerning the AF44 controversy today on their website. Though I was never contacted personally, the reporter, Lillian Kwon of the Christian Post, obviously spent some time investigating the content of KennethCopelandBlog.com and has taken our allegations quite seriously. She also obtained new statements from KCM representatives—statements which have radically altered in some regards since their January 26th rebuttal to our charges. Most notable are:

  • KCM has finally reported actual figures “received” as earmarked specifically for the AF44 project. Two notes:
    • Their figures cannot be independently verified since KCM is not accountable to any third-party financial integrity organization such as the Evangelical Counsel for Financial Accountability; the Christian ministry of Wall Watcher’s Ministrywatch.com has given them a transparency grade of “F” for their deplorable fiscal secrecy.
    • KCM’s public statement did NOT address the issues we raised within our post Angel Flight 44, The Money, regarding the FACT that their many AF44-ministry announcements were tied to offerings and donor (“partner”) recruitment, and that their Angel Flight 44 book give away project netted them a financial return several times larger than their “gift” expenditures. Thus, they do not address the KCM’s general fund financial windfalls at all.
  • KCM finally gave an answer as to what they did with the designated money. (Again, their account cannot be independently verified, but this public statement is surely better than the nearly four-year silence regarding those funds since the 2006 SWBC AF44 announcements.)
  • KCM seemed to mention the Beechcraft-18 aircraft they accidentally ended up with, after an effort to give it to an African missionary went sour. Note their statement, “KCM has purchased an aircraft but it ‘currently has structural issues’ and is still ‘not in airworthy condition.’” They give the impression, however, that this aircraft was purchased specifically for AF44 which—if it is the Beech-18 I show below—would not really be the case. Note pilot Glen Hyde standing on the right side of the men posing for the picture, which I took prior to its delivery to KCM:

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Kenneth Copeland Ministries is under fire, mainly by one man, for failing to fly disaster relief supplies to Haiti’s earthquake victims after allegedly promising aviation assistance during such crises.

The international organization, which is also under scrutiny by the Senate Finance Committee for possible abuse of its nonprofit status, has been accused of “unfulfilled” pledges and unaccounted donations.

“While there is a huge crisis going on in the nation of Haiti right now Kenneth Copeland’s promised Angel Flight 44 ministry is nowhere to be found and the money he collected to start that ministry has not been accounted for,” Rich Vermillion, co-author of Angel Flight 44, charges.

Angel Flight 44 was birthed in 2006 during the Southwest Believer’s Convention. Vermillion, Glen Hyde (co-author) and Kenneth Copeland announced in a live simulcast the formation of a new disaster relief ministry in which they would provide ongoing aviation aid. It was announced following KCM’s relief efforts in 2006 in the aftermath of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita.

Vermillion – who started kennethcopelandblog.com, what he calls a “minister to errant-minister open rebuke” – says Copeland promised to form the aviation ministry but now believes it was never created.

“It is as if Kenneth Copeland had never said such a ministry had already been formed, nor had repeatedly promised that such an aviation support ministry would be further developed and ready for disasters – such as that which just occurred in Haiti a few days ago,” he said last month.

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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 1, 2010

Word of Faith Preacher Friedel is Banking On Miracles!

SHORECHRISTIANCENTER, Squankum Rd, Wall, NJ

http://www.app.com/article/20100130/…ng-on-miracles

On January 30, 2010 APP.com writer Jason Method wrote a continuing article about G. Dewey Friedel, the 60-year-old, pastor of Shore Christian Center in Wall, NJ.

Friedel is a Word of Faith Preacher who has built an overpriced and overbudgeted amphitheater-style church which has shrunk from 1200 to 300 members and is being taken over in bankruptcy on February 3, 2010. The church began in 1979.

He says that the devil and a “spirit of control” were attacking the church but that great things were coming.

Friedel has already lost his second home in Lee County, Miami, Florida.

He wanted to build his own worldwide network similar to the Trinity Broadcasting Network saying “If we offer what we have, he’s going to do something with it.”

The church was foreclosed on in July because ShoreChristianCenter could not make payments on its $4.7 million mortgage.

“It is unusual for any church to be foreclosed on, experts say, but there is special irony for a pastor who is an adherent to a strain of Christianity known as the prosperity gospel” says Method.
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Jesse Duplantis makes the case that since “death and life” are in the power of the tongue he then concludes that we, not God, decide when to live or die.

David Wilkerson preaches against the false Gospel of prosperity and self being embraced wholesale by many in the Church. The Gospel of ‘Health & Wealth’ is a dangerous heretical message which twists Scriptures to feed the flesh of those who want their “Best Life Now”.

A powerful message delivered with passion and urgency, “Another Gospel” (preached originally in 1999) is a message to both those who are caught up in the ‘Word of Faith / prosperity” heresy and those who are deeply concerned with the current state of the Church.

Edifying and sound – go and share it with your friends!

Please feel free to upload it to your own sight! (The message is taken from sermonindex.com and is not copyright).

Posted by: TWotWoF VIDEO ROW | January 30, 2010

VIDEO: The Word-Faith Movement (from Christianity in Crisis)

The fastest growing segment of professing Christianity today is the Word-Faith Movement, also known as the Positive Confession or simply “Faith” movement.

Its growth is at least partially due to the massive amounts of money the leaders are able to extract from the faithful.

In this video, you will see some of them in action.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | January 23, 2010

Lorri MacGregor: Word Faith-Is it the Word or the Faith of the Bible?

The Word of Faith Movement is powerful and influential, with numerous affiliated churches worldwide. Compelling, charismatic leaders preach their peculiar doctrines to enthusiastic and accepting global audiences who view Word Faith as just another denomination within Christianity, but are they really?

Best known for their “prosperity gospel”, they promise riches in this life. W ask and answer the question, “Is Word Faith prosperity really Biblical prosperity?” The answer might surprise you. We let the Bible speak.

However the Word Faith Movement is in far deeper water doctrinally. Certain lines cannot be crossed without becoming outright heresy. These lines include the Person of Jesus Christ. We must not misrepresent our Lord and Savior, or we could be found guilty of presenting “another Jesus” and “another gospel” as the Apostle Paul warned the church.

Has the Word Faith Movement crossed the line? We believe so and you can decide for yourself as this DVD takes a Biblical look at some of their more aberrant teachings. Be prepared to be shocked!

Lorri MacGregor brings over thirty years of Discernment Ministry experience to this expose, having authored two books, ten DVDs, numerious articles and booklets examining various groups.

Lorri was a Jehovah’s Witness for 15 years and together with her husband Keith MacGregor and ministry partners Richard and Cheryl Schatz, serves with MM Outreach a US based non profit organization dedicated to the preaching of the gospel message to lost and hurting people.

Word Faith Is it the Word or the Faith of the Bible? © 2009 MM Outreach Inc


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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | January 22, 2010

THREE UNBIBLICAL WORD OF FAITH VIEWS ABOUT JESUS

THREE UNBIBLICAL VIEWS ABOUT JESUS

INTRODUCTION“But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough” [II Corinthians 11:3-4 ESV].

With the same fear that Paul had for the Corinthian church, I issue this paper. Oh, that believers’ eyes will be opened and that they will not fall prey for the deceit of satan and follow after another Jesus. This paper is in response to teachings propagated by many Word of Faith Movement teachers. A man may be excused if the error he teaches is simply out of pure ignorance however, when they are reproved and continue unrepentant with their teachings, such should be addressed publicly of their error in order to savage the people of God from blasphemy. Many other things may be overlooked or simply be taken as matters of opinions but we cannot do that when it comes to the Person of Jesus. When the image of the true Jesus is distorted we’re dealing with heresies. The doctrine concerning Christ is not something left to our freedom of interpretation seeing that the Bible provides clear teaching of who He is.

While there are many other views about Jesus I’m at present not undertaking such a task in this meager address. My purpose is to refute the horrific false Christ being propagated in the Word of Faith which is absolutely separated from the teaching of Scripture. Many people think that the criticism against the Word of Faith Movement is aimed at certain individuals. If you understand the magnitude of the task I’m undertaking you’ll be slow in saying that I’m attacking certain individuals. When the church of God is at stake we can never be too harsh with wolves, in this case war is the only option left to rescue God’s people from being deceived.

I look back into the years I’ve been part of the Word of Faith Movement and realize how many people are following after a Jesus of their own making rather than the one of Scripture. Many continue to follow after another or false Christ and sad it will be when Christ will turn them on the last day off as workers of iniquity and evil doers.

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