Posted by: Damon Whitsell | January 12, 2012

Ex-Word of Faith Testimony of Ariel

 I recieved this testimony in the comments section of the video below on our YouTube Channel about a year ago and I seen it again when I approved another comment and decided to post it. It was a reminder to me and hopefull encouragement to others who expose false teaching. It is worth the work.  

Dear brother…

Thank you for this vid.

I am a former WOF follower. I attended Life Christian Univ. for almost 2 years which is seminary where prety much all the books that you study are written by Kenneth Haggin.

I enter this church as a baby christian, hungry for the word of God and thirsty for the HS.

After a while following these ppl, and faithfully study the scripture, I realized that something is not right.

I began to search out for the truth, and lo and behold, I came to the realization that I am in a movement which is called WOF.

I withdraw myself from the school and the church with a simple letter to the pastor and the teachers…

I followed the promtings of the HS, which protects us from erroe and false teaching…

Unfortunatelly, my sister is still involved with a similar church, which pastor’s spiritual father is Kenneth Copoland.

I had tried to explain to her and her husband what is going on, gave her scripture and documentation

But she is still in the same church along with all her family.

She is stuck basically, and gradually, after many warnings and pleadings, she is not talking to me any longer.

I thank you for exposing and talking about these ppl, maybe, just maybe someone out there like me will hear the truth.

It took me a long time, but with God’s help and the HS, I was able to clear my mind of the heresies that these ppl teach.

I learned how to lean on the HS for guidance.

God bless


Here is the video Ariel commented on.


Posted by: Damon Whitsell | January 12, 2012

A POEM: The 3D Effect Of The Word of Faith

A nice guy named Ron has been sending me some poems and studies that I am trying to find time to edit and post. Some of them are pretty good and I suggest he try to tighten his work up and he would have something great. Well Ron hit this one out of the Park! He has told me that I could publish anything he sends me so I am going to reformat some of what he sent me and post it soon and if he keeps sending stuff like this I’ll make a user name for him so it will be easier for people to find Ron’s work here. THANKS RON, Great job!!!

The 3-D Effect (Descent, Deception, And Desensitization)

Once a pastor fought the cause and took aim
Now you’re lucky if a pastor knows your name

The 1950’s biggest trouble in school was chewing gum
Now the school grounds they’re killing from

There was a day when your barn burnt down
Many came to rebuild from that town

When you were sick and needed help most
Church and family lined up to be your host

When a stranger in need came to ask
Now send him down the street to complete the task

When parents spanked their kids and it all made sense
Now we tolerate bad behavior, no real consequence

There was a time when family was very near
Now they’re far and spread, and we hardly hear

Truth about eternity, hell, fire and brimstone
Now they preach fluffy stories to reduce the tone

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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | January 11, 2012

2011 in review

The stats helper monkeys prepared a 2011 annual report for this blog.

Here’s an excerpt:

The Louvre Museum has 8.5 million visitors per year. This blog was viewed about 110,000 times in 2011. If it were an exhibit at the Louvre Museum, it would take about 5 days for that many people to see it.

Click here to see the complete report.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | January 10, 2012

PICTURES of Joel Osteen’s 10.5 Million Dollar River Oaks Mansion

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In July of 2010 I posted here that Joel and Victoria Osteen moved into a 10.5 million dollar mansion in Houstons most exclusive and richest subdivision. The post I made contains information stating that the Osteens kept their 2.6 million dollar Tanglewood mansion and will be paying at least 260,000$ in property taxes per year on the new 10.5 million dollar masion. We have gotten many hits to that post by people who where looking for pictures of the new Osteen Mansion. Yesterday I found the following video that contains pictures of the new Osteen estate. The 3 pictures in this video come from this site and there are actually 4 pictures available if you will go to the site and click on the link at the bottom. I also suggest going to the site because the authors commentary is much better than mine. Here are some comments on the video at YouTube.

So a person who sings about ho’s drugs and bit**** can be rich,,, A guy that can hit a baseball can be rich,,, a women with big bo*** and a loud mouth who gets on tv with her sisters ij a reality show can be rich,,,, but a person who makes it his calling to help people out through religion cant have anything. No one is twisting peoples arms to list5en to him or donate money any more then they are twisting peoples arms to buy tickets to a concert, movie or baseball game,


Amen. I have told people that all the time. Rock stars and celebrities and those living for the devil are allowed to have nice homes, but if a preacher has a nice home, all hell breaks lose!

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Our Groupblog Author Pastor Jeff Kluttz from has written a new book on the teachings of the Word of Faith Movement. And it was released today, much earlier that expected. Jeff was kind enough to send me a copy in PDF format for free so I will be writing and posting a review of the book when I get through reading it in a week or so. I’ve already read the introduction and the first chapter and it seems it is going to be like the rest of Jeff’s books, a real good read full of learning.

You  can see Pastor Jeff’s teaching video series on the WoF called Wolves in Wool here.

You can but the book on Amazon here or at this URL

Through google alerts I found this nice little site that transcribes whole chapters from popular books. They seem to have transcribed some real good books.

I am not sure which chapter this is in the book. I tried to find out which chapter it was by reading through the reviews at Amazon and looking at the preview of the first 2 chapters on Google Books.  Even though I have so many books on my wishlist already I am going to add this one too. I hope you guys enjoy!


 From Randy Alcorn’s book “Money, Possessions, and Eternity”

A “man of God” stands before his audiences and rebukes the “spirit of poverty,” assuring them of material prosperity. He sends a Christmas letter concerning “the urgent need you have to get into true biblical prosperity as the wise men did. The money they brought literally met the financial needs of Mary, Joseph, and the child in that desperate hour.” By sending money to this evangelist in his desperate hour, according to the letter, one may expect to become materially prosperous, just like the wise men who gave generously to the baby Jesus.

This man represents a large and visible segment of American evangelicalism that subscribes to what is called “prosperity theology,” or the “health and wealth gospel.” This worldview thrives, in churches and in parachurch ministries, only because such men have willing supporters, eager to get their share of the prosperity pie. This chapter isn’t about some position “out there” in the world, but “in here” in the Church. It addresses the attitudes and lifestyles of millions of mainstream Christians who, to varying degrees and sometimes without realizing it, have bought into the lie of prosperity theology.


What makes every heresy dangerous is an element of truth. Without a sugar coating of truth, the lies would never be swallowed. The portion of truth that makes prosperity theology credible is that some Old Testament passages link material prosperity with God’s blessing. For instance, God gave material wealth to Abraham (Genesis 13:1-7), Isaac (Genesis 26:12-14), Jacob (Genesis 30:43), Joseph (Genesis 39:2-6), Solomon (1 Kings 3:13), and job (Job 42:10-17) because he approved of them. He promised the Israelites he would reward them materially for faithful financial giving (Deuteronomy 15: 10; Proverbs 3:9-10; 11:25; Malachi 3:8-12).

In Deuteronomy 28:1-13, God tells the Israelites that he would reward their obedience by giving them children, crops, livestock, and victory over their enemies, but he also tacks on fifty-four more verses describing the curses that would come upon the nation if they didn’t obey him-including diseases, heat and drought, military defeat, boils, tumors, madness, and blindness. The teaching is double-edged: prosperity for obedience, adversity for disobedience (Deuteronomy 28:14-68).

The Old Testament also warns against the dangers of wealth-especially the possibility that in our prosperity we may forget the Lord (Deuteronomy 8:7-18). Furthermore, the Bible recognizes frequent exceptions to the prosperity/adversity doctrine, noting that the wicked often prosper more than the righteous. The psalmist said, “I have seen a wicked and ruthless man flourishing like a green tree in its native soil” (Psalm 37:35), and “I envied the arrogant when I saw the prosperity of the wicked…. This is what the wicked are like always carefree, they increase in wealth” (Psalm 73:3, 12). Solomon saw “a righteous man perishing in his righteousness, and a wicked man living long in his wickedness” (Ecclesiastes 7:15). Jeremiah, a righteous man who lived in constant adversity, framed the question this way: “You are always righteous, 0 Lord, when I bring a case before you. Yet I would speak with you about your justice: Why does the way of the wicked prosper? Why do all the faithless live at ease?” (Jeremiah 12:1).

Are material wealth, achievement, fame, victory, or success reliable indicators of God’s reward or approval? If so, then he is an evil God, for history is full of successful madmen and prosperous despots. Was God on the side of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and other prosperous butchers of history during their rise to power and at the apex of their regimes when they were surrounded by material wealth? Is God also on the side of wealthy cultists, dishonest business executives, and immoral rock stars? If wealth is a dependable sign of God’s approval and lack of wealth shows his disapproval, then Jesus and Paul were on God’s blacklist, and drug dealers and embezzlers are the apple of his eye.


Many in Old and New Testament times believed in a direct cause-and-effect relationship between righteousness and prosperity on the one hand, and sin and adversity on the other. Health and wealth meant that God approved; sickness and poverty meant he did not. Job’s “comforters” thought there must be hid¬den sin in his life to account for his loss of prosperity, but they were wrong. God approved of Job (Job 1:8; 42:7), yet he permitted Satan to destroy every¬thing of earthly value that job possessed.

The well-to-do Pharisees lived and breathed a prosperity theology, labeling everyone beneath their social caste as “sinners” (Luke 15:1-2; John 9:34). Christ’s disciples betrayed their own assumptions when they asked, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” (John 9:2). Jesus responded by saying their presupposition was entirely wrong: “Neither this man nor his parents sinned…. but this happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life” (John 9:3). In other words, God had a higher purpose for this man’s adversity that simply didn’t fit in the neat little categories of “Do good and you’ll be well off” and “Do bad and you’ll suffer.”

Consider their response when Christ told his disciples, “It is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven,” and “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God” (Matthew 19:23-24). When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?” (Matthew 19:25).

Why the astonishment? It was because they were accustomed to thinking of wealth as a sign of God’s approval. If the wealthy, of whom God obviously approves (why else would he make them wealthy?), have a hard time going to heaven, how could the poor (whom God obviously disdains) ever make it? The disciples hadn’t yet grasped the significance of their Lord’s lifestyle. The one whose Father said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased” (Matthew 3:17, NKJV) was the same Son of Man who didn’t have a place to lay his head and owned nothing but a robe and sandals (Matthew 8:20).

Jesus said of his Father, “He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the un¬righteous” (Matthew 5:45). God extends common grace to all.

The air breathed by every person-sinner or saint-is God’s gift, regardless of the person’s morality. What we call prosperity is often incidental: An evil person may have good soil and a large crop, while the good person has poor soil and a small crop. As Christ’s account of the rich man and Lazarus demonstrates, an evil person may live a long life, suffer little, and prosper, while the righteous person may have life cut short, suffer considerably, and live in poverty (Luke 16:19-31). Jesus says things will be turned around in eternity, but often not until then (Luke 6:20-25).

The New Testament goes one step further. Not only may the righteous suffer despite their righteousness, but often they will suffer because of their righteousness. “Everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted” (2 Timothy 3:12). The early Christians continually suffered for their faith and were assured that “your brothers throughout the world are undergoing the same kind of sufferings” (I Peter 5:9). A materialistic world system,

The well-to-¬do Pharisees lived and breathed a prosperity theology, labeling everyone beneath their social caste as “sinners.” with its emphasis on personal peace and prosperity, does not look with favor upon a true disciple of Christ (John 15:18-20).

These examples from Scripture should disturb any of us whose goal is to be hailed a success by the standards of this world. If we fit in so well with the world, is it because we are living by the world’s standards, not Christ’s


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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | January 2, 2012

YouTuber Alexander Major Commenting On An Old Joel Osteen Video

This young man does an excellent job of commenting on and correcting the errors of Joel and Victoria Olsteen when they appeared on the Pierce Morgan Show.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | December 30, 2011

Top Ten Word of Faith Movement Post of 2011

1. Benny Hinn and Paula White Caught In Affair? More stats 4,747
2. THE TESTIMONY PAGE More stats 4,649
3. TBN Watch – NEW Paul Crouch Trouble More stats 4,606
4. Kenneth Copeland: 33rd Degree Freemason and other “Word of Faith” Masonic Ministers Exposed More stats 3,518
5. Todd Bentley’s 2nd Wife, Jessa Bentley, Talks About Speaking With Dead People – Which Scripture Forbids More stats 2,717
6. Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, Paul Crouch and Benny Hinn: Can they be Christians and Freemasons? These 4 articles say NO More stats 2,654
7. Ex-Faith Healer Mark Haville Explains The Tricks of the Fake Faith Healing Trade More stats 2,637
8. Some Commentary[ies] on Mark 11:23-24 (An Often Mis-Interpreted Verse By Word of Faithers) More stats 1,671
9. Facts About the Word of Faith Cult More stats 1,584
10. Marjoe Gortner: Proof that some Christians will fall for anything More stats 1,388

I am pleased to announce to our subscribers that our groupblog author Pastor Jeff Kluttz from and First Baptist Church Needville is releasing a WoF exposure book around the beginning of the year. The book is based on Jeff’s studies and sermon series called Wolves in Wool, which is available on this blog here.

Jeff was interviewed on his book here. AND brother Jeff has made the following introduction from his new book available on his site here. And you can see Jeff’s other books here. I have read and recommend them both. His book “The Spirit World” is particular to the WoF because it has a whole chapter refuting the WoF idea that Jesus went to hell.

If you will subcribe to this blog in the sidebar I will let you know when Jeff gives me word of an exact release date. THANKS YA’LL.

INTRODUCTION: A cancer is spreading at an alarming rate in the modern church. It expresses a heretical doctrine which exchanges the glory of the gospel of Christ for temporal gains that were once known as the very temptations of man. Heresy has become mainstream in an enormous population of Christendom. Sadly, much of the church today is too biblical illiterate to notice. The concept of orthodoxy has been given over to a competitive attitude by which doctrine is relegated to a local flavor. While heresy has always existed in the church, never has there been a time when “exotic and unfamiliar” were considered the creative virtues of preaching that they are today. The past few hundred years have been celebrated as times when enigmatic and incomprehensible creeds have been taken to task by a doctrinally savvy congregation and errors reproved by the biblical preaching of proven men of God. The tables seem to have turned entirely. In today’s religious circles it is old-school holdouts with the audacity to cling to the scriptures who are in the minority. It is a truly remnant church today which continues to preserve sound biblical fundamentals at the persistent ridicule of a new majority of doctrinal thrill-seekers.

They scream dissent from untold thousands of books, television networks and millions of websites. Entire supposedly “Christian” publishing houses have abandoned their former scriptural faith principles in favor of new proposals which, frankly, move more books off of store shelves. Christian bookstores, devoted more to their bottom line than the Lord’s, have likewise lifted not one finger in any measurable way to dissuade them. Countless modern congregations have jumped an entire generational cog; with an old-guard too tired or unwilling to fight for doctrinal purity and a new, younger work force that will only bother to show up if things are considered hip, novel, and decidedly not-too-biblical. Bereans are sparse; having been rapidly replaced by giddy, temperamental consumer-types who crave the latest “star” pastor’s deposition over the eyewitness testimonies of the apostles. The recipe for the modern pulpiteer calls for less scriptural content and more bizarre showmanship, to the extent of being positively juvenile.

Evangelicalism is in sincere trouble. Authentic Christians are relegated to a tireless search to find a church that preaches the Bible at all, as today’s pulpits more commonly stream self-help infomercials which refuse to mention, let alone offer remedy for man’s greatest issue: sin and man’s need for redemption. Churches have redefined ministry and missions in the image of public service fraternities. The gospel being proclaimed in so many supposedly “thriving” congregations is shallow enough to disappoint a Unitarian. Reminiscent are Jesus’ words to the church in Sardis, “You have the reputation of being alive, but you are dead.”[1]

Fueling these trends are a growing number of pastors who have committed themselves to unadulterated apostasy on the grounds that it produces the desired results. This new breed of pseudo-theologian teaches, through contrived and corrupt exegetical processes, things which in some cases completely reverse the truths of scripture. Man is instructed not on his depravity and need for salvation, but on his alleged posture of value before God’s grateful eye. Christ is presented not as the crucified lamb but the exemplary enabler of human potential. Scripture is not promoted as the inspired testimony of God by which men are convicted, redeemed and trained for His eternal service, but the means by which they can learn the secrets of acquiring their best life now.

While such a dire state of the church is heart breaking to those who love her, it is not something which has taken the student of God’s word by surprise. This emerging apostasy has been articulately forewarned in scripture; a word of caution to each generation that the roots of their faith will be challenged from within at a future juncture.

2 Timothy 4:3-4 (ESV)
3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4 and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

Surely such times are now at hand. Paul could not have more articulately portrayed the state of the modern church. The tested and proven methodology of starting new churches today is to send a group of surveyors into a neighborhood to determine the type of church that neighborhood would want to support. We are, in effect, asking the lost to dictate the function of the church. We may as well be determining which fast food franchise to inject into a business center. With the platform for church growth being the edification of everything people want to hear, the church has become nothing more than another consumer-oriented business. To the upwardly mobile, churches promise a leadership role in the renovation of culture. They are assured to be doing the work of Christ simply because they engage themselves in the types of things that Jesus did. To the poor and lowly is a promise of redemption; not from sin, but from the poverty which has stricken them due to their lack of “proper application” of God’s Word. To the ill is the promise of God’s full earthly reversal of their sicknesses, if only they will learn how to properly ask him. The church has become utterly user-friendly, offering carefully researched theological products which are in demand by the intended congregational target.

Numerous are the magical prayer books which give the correct formulas for invoking God’s response to one’s request, as if He were a cosmic genie who must only be suitably addressed for his magic to work. At the end of this process, man has taken the role of deity, dictating his will to an obedient subordinate; and God himself is that humble servant. With cleverly orchestrated theological arguments which attempt to make this doctrine seem biblical, these false teachers have relegated man to a place of power, success and great personal glory, while almighty God becomes nothing more than a grand enabler of man’s creative capacity. Shortly, even Shirley McClain will be pleased to join one of our mainstream mega-church congregations.

In the charismatic world, the “Word of Faith” movement represents the largest organized purveyor of these types of consumer-oriented doctrines. This work will focus specific attention to this movement in the hopes of illuminating the truths of scripture as a warning to the millions who are being systematically indoctrinated by this group. Through religious television networks and an increasing number of local congregations buying into the sheer hype, the Word of Faith movement has generated non-stop sensationalistic and un-verifiable claims that challenge everything the world has ever identified as orthodox faith. This work is not an attempt to engage heresy in debate, but to reveal it to individual readers for what it is. The true church must understand the nature of what she will battle in the coming days and years. These groups are steadily permeating the wheat field with tares while a lost and dying world is being cross-evangelized by false apostles utterly incapable of presenting the true gospel; for they do not know it themselves.

The end result of this counterfeit ministry will be an ever increasing wake of souls who are either happily deceived and relegated to an eternity of death, or are so damaged from their failed foray into “religion” that they write off Christ entirely as a charlatan who must be of the same essence as his phony ministers. Too often the deceived think they have experienced the fullness of Christ’s grace and find it lacking. Sadly, many walk away from anything with the Name of Christ attached to it from that point forward.

To that end, the responsibility of identifying and preaching against false doctrines is of major importance to those who live to affirm and defend the teachings of scripture. While scripture clearly indicates that an apostasy waits the latter days, it nevertheless demands the faithful of Christ to contend earnestly for the truth which transcends all times and cultures.

As Jude warns,

Jude 1:3-4 (ESV) 3 Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints. 4 For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | December 7, 2011

The Role Of Suffering In Sanctification by Pastor Eric Mason

Yeh, Yeh,, I know that some say Christian Suffering is an oxymoron and that suffering is antithetical to the Christian life – but for those who are attempting to enter through the narrow gate, here is a real good video on suffering and santification.

“We must go through many hardships to enter the kingdom of God,” Acts 14:22

RESOURCE POST: Christian Suffering verses the Prosperity Gospel – Which one is Biblical?




Posted by: Damon Whitsell | December 1, 2011

prayer request to subcribers and others

 hi guys, can ya’ll add some to your prayers, and prayer list.

karl freitas. possible lung cancer
Pat whitsell (my mom) Needs hunger for the Lords love letter
me need to complete recovery and be more stable, transition to preaching and teaching to add to apologetics in my ministry, keep doing what He is doing 🙂 PTLV
Posted by: Damon Whitsell | June 4, 2011

Is the Word of Faith Movement biblical? by

Question: “Is the Word of Faith movement biblical?”

Answer: Word of Faith teaching is decidedly unbiblical. It is not a denomination and does not have a formal organization or hierarchy. Instead, it is a movement that is heavily influenced by a number of high-profile pastors and teachers such as Kenneth Hagin, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Paul and Jan Crouch, and Fred Price.

The Word of Faith movement grew out of the Pentecostal movement in the late 20th century. Its founder was E. W. Kenyon, who studied the metaphysical New Thought teachings of Phineas Quimby. Mind science (where “name it and claim it” originated) was combined with Pentecostalism, resulting in a peculiar mix of orthodox Christianity and mysticism. Kenneth Hagin, in turn, studied under E. W. Kenyon and made the Word of Faith movement what it is today. Although individual teachings range from completely heretical to completely ridiculous, what follows is the basic theology most Word of Faith teachers align themselves with.

At the heart of the Word of Faith movement is the belief in the “force of faith.” It is believed words can be used to manipulate the faith-force, and thus actually create what they believe Scripture promises (health and wealth). Laws supposedly governing the faith-force are said to operate independently of God’s sovereign will and that God Himself is subject to these laws. This is nothing short of idolatry, turning our faith—and by extension ourselves—into god.

From here, its theology just strays further and further from Scripture: it claims that God created human beings in His literal, physical image as little gods. Before the fall, humans had the potential to call things into existence by using the faith-force. After the fall, humans took on Satan’s nature and lost the ability to call things into existence. In order to correct this situation, Jesus Christ gave up His divinity and became a man, died spiritually, took Satan’s nature upon Himself, went to hell, was born again, and rose from the dead with God’s nature. After this, Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to replicate the Incarnation in believers so they could become little gods as God had originally intended.

Following the natural progression of these teachings, as little gods we again have the ability to manipulate the faith-force and become prosperous in all areas of life. Illness, sin, and failure are the result of a lack of faith, and are remedied by confession—claiming God’s promises for oneself into existence. Simply put, the Word of Faith movement exalts man to god-status and reduces God to man-status. Needless to say, this is a false representation of what Christianity is all about. Obviously, Word of Faith teaching does not take into account what is found in Scripture. Personal revelation, not Scripture, is highly relied upon in order to come up with such absurd beliefs, which is just one more proof of its heretical nature.

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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | June 2, 2011

Faith Healing Cult Couple loses Custody of Child


BREAKING NEWS: Wednesday June 1, 2011…ealing-parents

During the trial of Timothy and Rebecca Wyland for the medical neglect of their now 18-month-old daughter, a doctor testified that the baby girl may have gone blind if she had not been taken away from her parents.

Portland, Oregon’s NewsChannel 8 (KGW) reports the doctor: said the girl has permanent developmental damage to her eye and may require surgery.

In court, the jury was shown images of baby Alayna Wyland who suffered from a buildup of blood vessels around her left eye during the first few months of her life. […]

The state took Alayna into custody almost immediately, having had experiences with Followers of Christ Church members in the past. At the time, case workers feared the consequences.

“She could go blind in that eye. She could lose the eye completely. Her face could continue to deform,” said case worker John Faber.

Prosecutors asked Emanuel Hospital Dr. Dan Leonhardt -an expert on child abuse who treated Alayna- about the girl’s condition.

“The diagnosis I came to is ‘medical neglect,’” he said.

Meanwhile the Oregonian says:

Timothy and Rebecca Wyland pleaded with child-welfare workers last summer for permission to take their daughter, Alayna, to a doctor and keep her out of state custody.

The Oregon Department of Human Services refused the request and, on June 29, brought Alayna to a hospital, where she was treated the infant for a growth that covered her left eye and extended around the eyeball leaving her left eye on the verge of blindness. A doctor who examined Alayna said she suffered from medical neglect.

The way DHS responded to the Wylands’ pleas became the focus of testimony during the second day of their trial in Clackamas County Circuit court. The Wylands, members of the Followers of Christ, an Oregon City faith-healing church, are charged with first-degree criminal mistreatment for failing to provide medical care for Alayna.

Defense attorneys Mark Cogan and John Neidig maintain that DHS took custody of the girl under the guise that she needed emergency medical care and refused to allow the Wylands to take her to a doctor on their own. But before the girl saw treating physicians, defense attorneys contend, she was evaluated by pediatricians who specialize in child abuse.

The defense attorneys on Tuesday began developing their argument that the Wylands are the victims of an overly aggressive bureaucracy that snatched heir daughter. The attorneys also raised the issue of religious discrimination. Neidig pointed out that DHS reports identified the Wylands as members of the Followers of Christ and said the agency may have targeted the couple for their affiliation.

The Followers of Christ Church is theologically a cult of Christianity whose extreme faith healing beliefs and practices have left a trail of dead children in its wake.

Authorities would be negligent if they ignored the cult’s destructive practices.

Last week the Oregon Senate joined the House in passing a measure sparked by the Followers of Christ Church deaths.

Under current law, spiritual treatment can be used as a defense against some charges. House Bill 2721 would eliminate those defenses and parents choosing faith healing over medical treatment for a child who dies could face tough mandatory sentences. It is expected that the bill will quickly be signed into law.


Oregon Baby May Go Blind Because of Faith-Healing Parents

Oregon doctors have said that Alayna Wyland, an 18-month-old with a massive growth covering her left eye, may go blind because her parents refused to get her medical treatment on religious grounds.

Today jury selection continues in the trial of Timothy and Rebecca Wyland, who have been charged with first-degree criminal mistreatment of their child, only days after the state House passed a bill to be tougher on faith-healing parents.


Posted by: WoF Unveiled | May 19, 2011

Comparison Chart: Leverite Law Versus Tithing Law

Click the link below to download the comparison chart between the leverite law and the tithing law.


Slavery was practiced before the law of Moses too, codified into the law of Moses and neither abolished nor condemned in the New Testament! Therefore, is it okay to practice slavery today? Just because something was practiced before the law of Moses, it does not mean it should automatically carry over to the New Testament Christians. This type of argument is deeply flawed and illogical.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | May 18, 2011

Ex-Word of Faith Testimony of Mary

Note from Admin: As usual I am very thankful for all the testimonies submitted here but especially this one because of the specific content it is very timely and I am sure it will be particularly helpful to someone the Lord sent to me a few months ago to try to help out of the WoF, which seems to be going very well after a real rough start. – The Lord Jesus Christ is so good.  Please read the short and sweet testimony below and my further comments that follow. THANK YOU MARY!!!

I attended a WoF church since becoming a believer at age 33.  Prior to this, my feelings about these kinds of churches was that they were all and out wierd.  But, it was the church of our choosing because my neighbor went there and God had used her to get me into a good Bible study (not WoF).  I  instantly trusted and threw myself into every aspect of the church including completed the 2-year Bible school and our children attending the school associated with the church and a host of other activities.  Many weeks I was at church 6 of 7 days.  I knew that I had drifted far from my First Love and out of ignorance or pride I got more and more involved in the church instead of returning to the truth.  You name it, I experienced it…the running the laughter, shaking, falling, strange prayer meetings, giving 18 percent of our annual income, speaking of the leader like he was a god.

About the year 2000, my husband began to search out other possible churches for us, but I was not in agreement.  In 2003, he shared with me his realization that if we did not both leave the WoF church, our marriage would most likely crumble.  These were the words that got me away from the church… and it would take me the next three years to deprogram.  Today I can look back and be so grateful for those people in the crucial moments early on in my deprogramming who spoke the truth to me, those I reached out to whom had left the church.  I see this time as the greatest miracle in my life since salvation. “The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse”, by Johnson & Vondervan and “Toxic Faith”, by Arterburn & Felton helped a great deal.

Now in 2011, I am grateful for it all having been rescued. I am stronger and in a way weaker too.  I don’t ever want to think that I am beyond being deceived. I have a tenacity for the Word…not just the words, but God’s message in His Word. I want to be authentic and fruit bearing.

I still feel sadness when I think of the people that I hurt during this pride-filled time in my family as they tried to reason with me about the leader of the church and how I lashed out at them in defense of him…and the woman who shared in our woman’s group that her husband had lost his job and that they had no money for groceries and how we “leaders” prayed for her to have more “faith” instead of giving to her what she needed and what we could have provided.


Firstly, this testimony is particularly sweet to me because most of the people who have come to The Word of Faith Recovery Forums are looking for help and suggestions on how to help a spouse out of the WoF and how to cope with such stresses in the relationship that the Wof causes when either one spouse is in and the other not or if both spouses are in, it is always very stressful when one comes out (either in body or mind and soul) before the other. I am sad to report that I have met well over 100 Ex-Wofers and and have witnessed the WoF to be the ruin of too many marriages. Because of this I never suggest that a person give their spouse an ultimatum but I very much understand why some do, it is just that the WoF teachings are so divisive and stressful and relationships can be hard enough without all of that – I really like how mary’s hubby approached it, with love.

My advice is always the same, get equipped and love your spouses. By getting equipped I mean that if your spouse is in the WoF and you are not or you have already come out, you’ll need to know how to refute the devilish doctrines of the WoF – in other words, help them start the “deprogramming” process that is always involved in leaving the WoF. Look for doubts in the mind of your spouse about certain WoF teachings and learn all you can about that specific teaching, how it is twisted and taught and it’s biblical antithesis or truth. And of course it is always good to point out every chance you get that the WoF message sounds very good and alluring but it rarely delivers and when it does it is mostly coincidental, by chance and is usually the product of calling things miraculous that are far from miraculous (one instance comes to mind of a guy who called getting approved for a sub-prime loan on a motorcycle he thought he could not get a miracle not realizing this happens everyday to people of all walks everywhere, is all too common and with the extra interest it is not really even a blessing but a burden – if the Wof message was true why not just speak to your wallet or give to get until you can pay cash for everything your heart desires).

So I usually suggest getting prepared and pray pray pray and show love because it is the legendary love and goodness of the Lord that draws us to our God and more times than not it is love that draws people out of the WoF. But on the other hand if you have had all you can take, are prayed up, studied up and your at your last straw, I have seen ultimatums work but I suggest they not be given if they are not sincere. I AM SO HAPPY TO SEE MARY AND HER HUBBY STILL AS ONE FLESH!!! And I am always super grateful for those unique souls that quit believing in the WoF doctrine and wait patiently for the Lord to open their spouses eyes such as Conni Edwards did with her husband John Edwards (please see John’s, Connie’s and John’s brothers testimonies on our testimony page)

Secondly, you can use the search function in the side bar of this blog to find articles and videos for both of the outstanding books and authors Mary suggested, they really are great resources and you can also try the “Spiritual Abuse Recovery Sites” also listed in the side bar.

Thirdly, Gods strength is magnified in our weaknesses and His grace is sufficient for us in all things. Almost all WoFers have been taught to redefine salvation to always include health, wealth and material prosperity but in it’s basic sense salvation is a rescue and if we seek the Lord He will rescue us time and time again because He is just good like that and He will give us a hunger for relationship with Him and His word that will indeed produce authentic fruit bearing. I believe being WoF and being rescued from it uniquely enables and qualifies Ex’s  to help others out of the WoF. That can be as simple as submitting a testimony to this site or a couple of others that collect such testimonies but also equips people with the love, empathy and knowledge it takes to help others. I would guess-timate that about close to 10-15 percent of the Ex-WoFers I have met go on to start blogs, start or get involved in support groups, write books and even get involved in documentary films about the WoF like co-founder of this groupblog Ex-WoF Pastor John Edwards did here. You can see John’s post on this blog here or visit his site at

Lastly, I believe feeling sad about those harmed is a common and appropriate feeling among Ex-WoFers. But all too often those sad feelings can be intermingled with guilty feelings and I don’t believe that is ever appropriate. When we are set free by the Lord we are free indeed and if we confess our sin He is faithful and just to cleanse us of all our unrighteousness and if we confess our sins one to another we will be healed. I believe it is important to remember that those things that may have caused others harm are learned behaviors that are inherent too and common in the WoF and that feelings of guilt are also prideful if we think the precious Blood of Jesus Christ cannot wash that stuff away and we cannot forgive ourselves for things the Lord forgives us for and does not even remember anymore. I can tell that the Lord has worked a genuine work in Mary’s heart because her last sentence captures the essence of the Gospel that most WoFers arrogantly miss but can be forgiven for.

NOTE TO MARY: Because I noticed you subscribed to this sites postings I would like to say that I did not mean to seem to preach at ya. I believe your testimony will be very pertinent to the person I mentioned in my preface that I felt I had to elaborate for her benefit and others that might read your testimony. I’ll leave comments open on this post if you would like to comment further or request anything I said to be changed. THANKS SO MUCH FOR CARING ENOUGH TO SHARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In the movie Kill Bill, whenever Uma Thurman would hear or see one of the people who had attempted to kill her, an alarm would go off in her head. Unfortunately, I experience the same alarm every time I hear T.D. Jakes open his lying mouth. GCMwatch documented my last alarm in a post here. Jakes lied to a Muslim woman and told her she would go to heaven even if she didn’t believe in Jesus Christ.

The good thing about False Teachers? They always identify themselves. But, one can only know the difference between right and wrong by knowing the difference between right and wrong (the bible). The bad thing about false teachers? They are very skilled at keeping up a false guise of Christianity, and very good at duping so called Christians.


NOTE FROM ADMIN: This is a really good article examining Meyers teaching. It is a new blog and may benifit you to subscribe to it’s postings. MAY THE LORD JESUS BLESS YA!!!


A neighbor of mine mentioned the famous televangelist Joyce Meyer to me one day and suggested that I read one of Meyer’s books. So I read the one she had just read: Managing Your Emotions: Instead of Your Emotions Managing You, published in 2002, a book that is representative of the books Meyer sells by the millions.

Early in her book Meyer warns;

“There is a lot of spiritual ‘junk’ being offered today, and some of it sounds so good and feels so right. Make sure what you are following is in line with the Word of God and is initiated by His Holy Spirit.” p 81

Are Joyce Meyer’s teachings “in line with the Word of God”?

Let’s take a look…



Ernest Angley, John Bevere, Markus Bishop, Juanita Bynum, Morris Cerullo, Kim Clement, Kenneth Copeland, Paul Crouch, Creflo Dollar, Jesse Duplantis, Kenneth Hagin, Marilyn Hickey, Benny Hinn, Rodney Howard-Browne, Larry Huch, T.D. Jakes, Bishop Eddie L. Long, Clarence McClendon, Joyce Meyer, Myles Munroe, Steve Munsey, Mike Murdock, Joel Osteen, Rod Parsley, Peter Popoff, Fred Price, Oral Roberts, R.W. Shambach, Robert Schuller, Karl Strader, Robert Tilton, Paula White, Ed Young.

Hat Tip too Mike Rodgers at for showing me this site.
About the Book
Lies My Pastor Told Me was born out of Cole Brown’s experience as a newly converted Christian in his early twenties. Having no prior Christian background he ended up in what he assumed was a healthy church culture. Little did he know, the evangelical church culture his friends invited him into was feeding him clichés that were not only unbiblical, but damaging. Lies My Pastor Told Me confronts 15 of these common church clichés with the gospel and shows how they rob Jesus of the glory he deserves and rob his people of the true good he has for them.

About the Author
Cole Brown is lead pastor of Emmaus Church, an Acts 29 church plant in urban Portland, Oregon where he lives with his wife and two children. He has a Bachelor of Science in religion and psychology from Liberty University and is currently pursuing a Master of Arts in Biblical and Theological Studies at Western Seminary. When not writing he enjoys reading non-fiction, watching good film, and hearing good music of all genres. His first book, Lies My Pastor Told Me, was released as a free eBook in July of 2010.

01 Don’t Put Your Mouth On The Man Of God
02 The Bible Is God’s Rule Book
03 This Is God’s House
04 I Feel The Spirit
05 I Have Peace About This Decision
06 God Wants You To Be Rich
07 That Will Make You Sin
08 Speak It Into Existence
09 You’re Not Filled With The Holy Spirit If You Don’t Speak In Tongues
10 That’s The Devil
11 God Heals Those Who Have Faith
12 You Have A Generational Curse
13 She’s Not Anointed
14 Just Believe God
15 Doctrine Is Dangerous





To see the damage these Pastors and their lies are responsible for





11 year old girl accepts the dangerous doctrine that Christians should not go to Doctors


RECOURCE VIDEOS AND ARTICLES: (Faith in Faith/Faith is a Force) What is Faith?

RESOURCE POST: Christian Suffering verses the Prosperity Gospel – Which one is Biblical?

RESOURCE POST: Is the Word of Faith Movement a Cult?




John Edwards of, Ex-Word of Faith Pastor, Co-founder and one time groupblog author of this groupblog was a consultant and appears in this new documentary on the fake faith healing trade. See his post on this groupblog HERE and his testimony HERE

This video shows where a guy from the UK (Derren Brown -Miracles for Sale) took a regular guy off the streets, taught him how to do this deception and brought him right here to Texas and desperate people fell for it and merely thought they where healed until the fake faith healer told them the truth,, that he was just a scuba diving teacher who was taught to pull this deception off through hypnosis, manipulation and the power of suggestion to vulnerable and needy people.

THE WOF IS SERIOUSLY DEADLY and has killed more people than Jim Jones ever thought about (go here and look at Hobart Freemans entry

I know many who have lost loved ones that died because of this deception. PLEASE DON’T LET IT HAPPEN YOU OR YOUR LOVED ONES!!!



Signs And Wonders Movement Exposed: THE VIDEO SERIES THAT EVERY CHRISTIAN MUST SEE!!!!!!!

Ex-Faith Healer Mark Haville Explains The Tricks of the Fake Faith Healing Trade

Marjoe Gortner: Proof that some Christians will fall for anything


If you’re a fan of Derren Brown, you’ll be pleased to hear that he’s back with a new special on Monday! This time he’s exposing the murky world of faith healing, where pastors claim to be able to cure people of various ailments – in exchange for money. Derren recently chatted to reporters about the show and why spiritual healing is so dangerous, so read on to find out what he had to say!

How did you come to find out about spiritual healing?
“I grew up a Christian, and only came out of that round the time of university. I was not seeing a lot of it over here but what I did see a lot of was a much lower and harmless level where crowd hype is valued over any kind of personal experience, any depth of faith – I was going to quite a happy clappy church. Then you became aware of these healers that do exist. It always struck me as worrisome but you don’t really take it that seriously. I think coming out of Christianity altogether and just having a slightly clearer sense in my own mind of what I believed and what I didn’t believe – I just looked on that as more of a scam. It’s not like psychics and mediums where it’s like, ‘Does it really matter? People get some comfort out of it, they’re just showmen, but does it really matter?’ [Spiritual healing] is genuinely dangerous.”

How is it dangerous?
“People do not get better at all, and not only do they not got better but they’re told to throw the medicine away. Because if they take the medicine, that’s a demonstration that they don’t have enough faith and if they don’t have enough faith the healing won’t continue. Of course it never works, so everything is about the blame being put back onto the victim, for want of a better word. The people that come up on stage and bounce around and seem to be healed are basically responding to the fact that adrenaline is pumping through their veins and adrenaline is a painkiller. The next day, if anything, they’re going to be worse because they’re bouncing round and touching their toes which they shouldn’t do if they’ve got chronic arthritis! Then you’ve got all the people the cameras don’t show – people with Down’s syndrome, people in wheelchairs, people on drips and in hospital beds. At the big rallies which are where it’s just nastiest, there’s a filtering process at the bottom of the steps where the stewards filter out the people who can be brought up on stage and be shown to be healed. Anybody with an arm missing or anything that’s visible or chronic or real or an organic disease is just sent back. You’ve got the despair of people who do come up and they’re not better and they’re blaming themselves and their own faith, and then you’ve got the hordes of people who are following these healers around America – chronically ill people who are being carried in by their parents, just going from gig to gig to gig waiting for a healing and it never happens.”

What’s the money side of faith healing?
“It’s closely allied to the Prosperity Gospel – they take the idea of sow and you shall reap to be a financial incentive. So Jesus bestows blessings in the form of money and to get that money you have to give. But you’ve got to give more than you can afford otherwise you’re not really giving it in faith. You give it to your pastor and you’ll get hundredfold back. If you don’t, again you don’t have enough faith or you’ve got secret sin. We heard a story of a little girl who was 13. There was a testimonial on TV of someone who had MS, and she had paid $1,000 and been cured. This was an actress talking, it was a produced advert. This 13-year-old girl had MS, so she started saving up, mainly money from her grandmother, and eventually gave $1,000 bit by bit. Of course her MS didn’t go so she rang them up and said, ‘I don’t understand what’s happened’ and she was told, ‘Oh well, you’ve probably got secret sin in your life’. So she poured petrol over herself and killed herself. These are rare cases, but there is just misery that they leave behind. And the top names are earning far more money than any Hollywood A-lister. It’s also the mailing lists, it’s not just the people that are there putting money in buckets. And then you hear that they’ve spent thousands and thousands of dollars on room service, rentboys in one case, just all on cash. This money people put in the baskets is just being spent that night.”

The faith healers seem homophobic – is that something that motivated you?
“That’s just sort of ground into that world, into the Deep South, Bible Belt world. One of the big name healers is gay, keeps it very, very quiet – was spending the donation money on rentboys one night. It’s not a big thing for me, I don’t get fired up by that sort of thing. I think there’s a bigger picture that’s just fairly unpleasant.”

Is homophobia one of the reasons you left the church?
“Not at all – I think very few Christians are homophobic. I did go through an area of the church that was about trying to cure gay people. It was rather misjudged, but I was aware of that and I kind of flirted a bit with that… Friends of mine were in it so I was kind of aware of it. I just felt it was misguided really.”

You had a run-in with the police while filming – was that scary?
“They were very nice – they were very polite police. But we did get a criminal trespass warning. All we were doing was just driving in this area to head up to [pastor Kenneth Copeland’s] church but we were suspicious because we were three vehicles who had been snooping around a bit. It was very dodgy. They were saying they’d spoken to us before and warned us about coming in which was patently untrue.”

Were you worried that it was about to ruin all your work?
“Yeah, because that Saturday we were planning a final event for our pastor to perform. They’re asking for our passport details, and I’m like, ‘Am I supposed to tell him my name?’ And then they’re giving all our details to the private security guards which certainly wouldn’t be allowed to happen here. So they’ve got my name and the pastor’s name, which isn’t real. If they wanted they could easily work out something’s going on. They also had the flyers for the show we gave them in a misjudged moment of, ‘Come along!’ That was a bit of a concern. But in the end it was alright – I think they were probably just relieved we left.”

Were you worried about the effect the show might have on the fake pastor?
“We knew it would be a real journey, and for the pastor too there would be a sense of, ‘What happens to him?’ He’s the one up there doing it. He’s the one who could be most vulnerable on all sorts of levels. There was a real duty of care for him and protecting him. It was hugely tense for all of us. We’re with this guy who’s doing a fantastic job but has never done anything like this before. It’s not smooth for him by any means. And is he going to really start getting off on this? I found it myself, rehearsing with him and just running through little bits, part of me was itching to get up there and do a little bit of it myself, just from the point of view of performance. I wouldn’t dream of doing it because when you start working with the audience you cross that moral line. But you can see how there’s a real power trip with it and how it could become really addictive. But I’m still in touch with him and I see no signs!”

He was religious at the start of the program – is he still religious?
“Yeah. One great thing about him was that he’s very sincere and had a real earnestness about it which we knew was important. There were other people in the audition group that might have been more natural performers but we knew it was going to be really tough and if all they had was the ego of the performer they might just walk away from it. Whereas somebody who wasn’t a natural performer but just had a real strong commitment to the cause, we knew would be really important.”

How do you think this show will affect people?
“There’s always a bell curve – there will be people that will just be outraged at the very idea of it at one end and there will be people who think it’s just silly and doesn’t interest them at the other. And in the middle there will be a wave of people who are either non-believers like me who think, ‘Oh, that’s terrible’ so it raises awareness. And there’ll be Christians who are sort of aware of it, but don’t take it that seriously. But seeing what goes on in the name of God is a potentially horrible thing if that’s where you come from, because it’s nothing to do with God. It’s a big thing in the show – it’s not an attack on God or faith or the church. It’s about a greedy scam which has nothing to do with God apart from the fact that they mention his name a lot.”

Would you like the show to stop people going to these faith healing events?
“You’d hope… Of course, the horrible thing is that when you’re desperate you don’t really think about evidence. If someone says, ‘Yeah, I can help you’, you just go for it, of course. It’s easy for someone who isn’t desperate to say, ‘Look, here’s the evidence’. You just hope that if you put the information out there people can make a more informed decision. I think that’s the best you can hope for.”

Do you think some Christian people will think you’re attacking their religion?
“Of course, that’s a given. I’m sure people will think that and that’s up to them. But it’s very clear in the show, I make the point very clearly and some of the people helping train our fake pastor are Christians themselves that have been in that movement and are just as horrified by it. It’s about that bell curve again – I think people in the middle will see beyond the fact that we’re talking about Jesus. That shouldn’t immediately make it offensive, when you actually look at what we’re doing. This comes just as much from a distaste as a Christian I had as much as just a human being looking at exploitation.”

Do you think the American authorities could take action?
“It’s very tricky. The church is massively powerful, it’s a huge, huge business. The authorities are reluctant to do anything because it’s about religion and it’s easier to leave them to it. I think one big thing that would help generally is a bit of a shift in tax law, because if you say you’re earning money from a church it’s tax free in the States. There’s a massive tax incentive because they’re not paying a penny on it, they don’t have to declare it, they don’t have to say where it’s going, because that donation money is largely going to nice houses and jets. It’s not like it’s going to pay for Bibles or fuelling into the Word of God. They’re just taking it and spending it on themselves.”

This resource post contains all the post on this blog that deal with the issue of Christian Suffering.

Part One: Faith healing or THEOLOGY OF SUFFERING ? Resources on healing and enduring hardship via, 2Ti 4:5

Part Two: Faith healing or THEOLOGY OF SUFFERING ? Resources on healing and enduring hardship via, 2Ti 4:

My Baby…Taken From Death to Life! (a very good testimony to the biblical view of death and suffering)

Going Through Hard Times? THIS TOO SHALL PASS

Charles Stanley: When We Are Afflicted…

AUDIO SERMON: Walter Martin – Evil and Human Suffering

Dr. Norm Geisler – Why Does God Allow Evil and Suffering In the World?

The Prosperity Gospel and Suffering Saints by W. Dennis Griffith

Mark Driscoll Video Sermon: Suffering to Learn w/sermon notes


Testimony of Joni Eareckson Tada on the Word/Faith [Word of Faith Movement]: Releasing a False Christianity upon the Earth: FEATURING her personal testimony Video

This debate is just awesome, awesome and more awesome. Russell really does an excellent job and the WoF preacher,,, well see for yourself.

A full written transcript of the debate prepared by Russell Kelly is at:

Here is more material on this blog by Russell Kelly

PROSPERITY GOSPEL TACTICS As Seen in John Avanzini As Used by Most Prosperity Preachers – Russell Earl Kelly, PHD


Russell Kelly’s Book Review of “Health, Wealth and Happiness” by David W Jones and Russell S Woodbridge

Should The Church Teach Tithing? – Russell Earl Kelly

Russell Earl Kelly refutes Kenneth Copeland on Tithing

Dr. Russell Earl Kelly refutes Word of Faith Apologist Tom Brown on tithing.

Dr. Russell Earl Kelly refutes Dr. Chad Marinelli on Tithing

*TWotWoF* GROUP RADIO: Episode 2: TITHING, the Word of Faith and PROSPERITY GOSPEL Dr. Russel Kelly

140 Questions for Word of Faith Pastors and their Tithe Payers

Six Most Quoted Lies about Tithing by Word of Faith Preachers

The Author of “Should the Church Teach Tithing”  Dr. Russel Earl Kelly debates a Word of Faith Preacher about Tithing on Revelation TV. I love to watch debates and this is one of the best I have ever seen.

Russell is one of only two people in the world to do their doctorate thesis on tithing and he really knows his stuff.

Russell was kind and gracious in this debate, just like he was when he allowed me to interview him HERE. If you listen to my interview with Russell, two things will be obvious to you. 1. I don’t know much about tithing. 2. But Mr. Kelley REALLY DOES.


There should be 2 or 3 more videos from this debate to be uploaded here soon. And you can see more post on this blog with material from Russell here.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | April 7, 2011

RESOURCE POST: Is the Word of Faith Movement a Cult?

Here are most of the post on this blog that deal with the question,,IS THE WORD OF FAITH A CULT?

VIDEO SERMON: The Health and Wealth Cult by Walter Martin

Cultic Qualities of the Word of Faith Movement

Word of Faith Brainwashing Tactics

Facts About the Word of Faith Cult

The Word of Faith is the Fastest Growing Cult In The World

Junker Jeorge: The Dangerous Kenneth Hagin Cult

VIDEO SERIES: How a Good Church Becomes a Cult by Jerry Kaifetz

Ex-Word of Faith Testimony: Leaving the “River” of Charismatic/WoF Cultism by Kevin Reeves

Word of Faith’ers, Pentecostals, Charismatics and Cultic Anti-Denominationalism: by Damon Whitsell

Cult Tactics & Mind Control – B.I.T.E.

Common Characteristics of a Cult

The Narcissistic Cult Leader

MIND CONTROL MADE EASY! Become a Cult Leader Today!

Recovery for Survivors of Religious Cults

Cults: Sociological & Theological Perspectives

Bible definition of “Cult”

Is Your Church Free from Cultic Tendencies? A checklist for Responsible Christians

Marks of Abusive Religious Groups: w/ Want to become a cult leader? VIDEO

Understanding Spiritual Abuse: w/ TOXIC FAITH – Surviving SPIRITUAL Abuse VIDEO

END TIMES DECEPTION: Spiritual Abuse Survey: Is YOUR church a safe place? Take the Survey and see!

What is a (Pseudo/Christian) Cult? by Josh McDowell and Don Stewart

What are the Characteristics of Cults? by Josh McDowell and Don Stewart

Agony of Deciet: The Health & Wealth Gospel #4: The Cult of the Tele-Evangelists VIDEO

SPIRITUAL ABUSE: An Interview with Jeff VanVonderen: Author of The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse

Our friend Rich Vermilion over at has written another excellent article at his main blog. Below is a small portion of his article.

There are many wolves at large today, prowling around with their “sheep’s clothing” draped across their furry shoulders, looking for any unsuspecting prey which they can devour for their own self-serving agendas. One even contacted me today, and tried to deceive me into advertising his alleged “ministry” for him on my websites, using a false confrontation about Kenneth Copeland as his “lure.”

Instead of playing his silly game, however, I decided to write this article and let him undress his true character for the entire world to see.


I sometimes get accused of being anti-Charismatic and Pentecostal but this is simply untrue. While I do think both movements and traditions are fundamentally flawed and un-biblical, I am not against Charismatics and Pentecostals. Rather I am against the Word of Faith Movement (which is almost entirely heretical and abusive) and anyone from any group that is more like the Mafioso than Christ. That includes narcissistic and controlling people and groups from all theological traditions but it is my firm belief that both the Charismatic and Pentecostal Movements are rife breeding grounds for such groups and people because of the lack of structured accountability.

In 85 I was a charismatic for about 8 months. After they got through with me I did not walk into another church for 10 years and would walk away at the mere mention of the word “God” for about 5 years (My beliefs are not based on my experiences but rather my biblical studies). Since then I have been involved with 3 ministries that turned out to be very nefarious. One was Tic Toc Ministries and Monica Dennington (see here and here) and I hope to share my bad experiences with the other two ministries one day. But I would like to publicly acknowledge 4 people and their ministries that have prevented me from being totally against all things Charismatic and Pentecostal,, Rich Vermillion is definitely one of them. The other 3 are Guy Malone (and his wife) from Alien Resistance, John Marcus Stead, and our very own fellow groupblogger WoF Unveiled (which has turned out to be a great source of emotional support and a great friend to me). I AM VERY PROUD to call these Charismatic brothers,, BROTHERS IN CHRIST. And I am very blessed to think of a couple of them as friends. THANK YOU ALL FOR INFLUENCING MY LIFE IN A VERY POSITIVE WAY, You are all great ambassadors for Christ Jesus!!!


Damon Whitsell

The so-called Prospereity Gospel is really a horrendously unbiblical false gospel which is destroying the good name of Christianaity and is replacing it with a message of greed and selfishness.

John Avanzini’s Hundredfold Lie is very typical of other prosperity preachers. They all use the same tactics and WoF abuse of God’s Word.

This article can be duplicated almost word for word concerning any of the “great” word-faith preachers such as Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, T D Jakes, Creflo P. Dollar and all of the other false-prophet-John Avanzini types who are getting rich by manipulating the poor among God’s beloved children.

Go to Nigeria, one of the poorest and least educated nations of the world. Assemble 1000 Pentecostal holiness preachers whose main education is from preaching seminars. Tell them that God appeared to you in a vision last night. Promise them that God said He would give a one hundred-fold financial increase to those who would give what he instructed in faith. The result? The crowd of preachers went wild. They gave everything they could get their hands on and even threw their wedding rings and watches to Avanzini.

John Avanzini boasts about this great Holy Spirit experience and tells it over and over again as he goes to churches around the world. He speaks of his Nigerian driver who immediately received a new car but he does not tell if that driver continued to receive the hundredfold financial blessing from future donations. He does not tell if that driver is now superabundantly rich today because he has kept on giving.  The odds of a few of the 1000 eventually receiving a financial bonus are great, but why did not most of them receive it?

The motive?  Do I have to spell it out? All prosperity preachers appeal to greed, avarice, covetousness and especially ignorance of God’s Word.

What does the Bible say about the “hundredfold” increase? The NT Word of God includes the word five (5) times in two occasions. It occurs in Matthew 13:8, 23 and the parallel in Luke 8:8. It also appears in Matthew 19:29 and its parallel in Mark 10:30.


Matthew 13:8, 23 and Luke 8:8 is Jesus’ parable of the sower. It is about gospel workers who go forth and sow seeds of gospel truth (not money) in order to harvest souls (not money) for the kingdom of God. The context is NOT about money! In 13:10 the disciples asked Jesus why he taught in parables. Referring to knowledge of the “mysteries of heaven” in 13:11, Jesus says in 13:12 that those who are given knowledge from God will be given even “more abundance” –of knowledge, not money! Again this is referring to knowledge and not money.


Matthew 19:29 is in the context of the aftermath of the rich young ruler leaving because he was not willing to give up his fortune and follow Jesus from 19:22. Jesus summed up the encounter by saying in 19:23 “It is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.” Jesus’ statement would not make sense if he wanted his disciples to become rich with earthly possessions.

In Matthew 19:27 Peter asked the important question that is in the minds of many Christians today. After reminding Jesus that the disciples had left everything and followed him, he asked “What then will there be for us?” In other words, “What kind of reward will we receive for following you?”


Posted by: Damon Whitsell | March 4, 2011


With References to Health, Wealth and Happiness, Has the Prosperity Gospel Overshadowed the Gospel of Christ

David W Jones, Russell S Woodbridge



Gen 12:1-3; 13 all; 15 all.

Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ — that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Prosperity gospel preachers quote Galatians 3:14 to prove that believers access the same material blessings as Abraham did by faith. They teach that this is a performance-based covenant which obligates God to bestow material blessings on believers now by faith.

In reality the second half of Galatians 3:14 only bestows the Spirit itself by faith which brings justification. The Abrahamic Covenant is an unconditional covenant and its blessings fall upon believers because they are already believers. Abraham received great financial blessings in Genesis 12 when he was NOT exercising faith.


1.  To assist believers, strangers and the poor.

2.  Love for God and love for others.

3.  To bring glory to God – to show that God and his kingdom are more important than things of the world.

4.  The gospel itself. One’s view of ownership changes.

5.  Reward. Heavenly rewards will consist of differing levels of responsibility in eternity. The question remains as to whether these rewards are material or spiritual in nature.


GIVING: 1 Corinthians 16:2

(1) periodic – weekly

(2) personal — everybody

(3) planned – put aside; store up

(4) proportionate – according to means

(5) plentiful – no collection when I come  (p154-155).


GIVING: 2 Cor 8 and 9. From Should the Church Teach Tithing? By Russell Earl Kelly

Christians are commanded to give freely, sacrificially, generously, regularly, joyfully and with the motivation of love for God and man. (1) Giving is a “grace.”

(2) Give yourself to God first (8:5).

(3) Give yourself to knowing God’s will (8:5). (4) Give in response to Christ’s gift (8:9; 9:15).

(5) Give out of a sincere desire (8:8, 10, 12; 9:7).

(6) Do not give because of any commandment (8:8, 10; 9:7).

(7) Give beyond your ability (8:3, 11-12).

(8) Give to produce equality. This means that those who have more should give more in order to make up for the inability of those who cannot afford to give as much (8:12-14). (9) Give joyfully (8:2).

(10) Give because you are growing spiritually (8:3-4, 7).

(11) Give because you want to continue growing spiritually (9:8, 10-11).

(12) Give because you are hearing the gospel preached (9:13).


Give to please God –not to gain God’s favor.

Give out of love –not out of greed or selfishness.


Matt 10:9-11 “Do not acquire gold, or silver, or copper for your money belts, or a bag for your journey, or even two coats, or sandals, or a staff; for the worker is worthy of his support. And whatever city or village you enter, inquire who is worthy in it, and stay at his house until you leave that city.”

At least while on evangelistic campaigns, gospel workers were to be totally supported by those whom they served. However the support was very minimal.

Matt 20:16 So the last shall be first, and  the first last: for many be called, but few chosen (110).

Those who strive to serve others are most exalted by God.

Luke 6:35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

We are not to lend while hoping for more in return.

Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting (114).

Phil 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

Phil 4:9 Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.

Whatever is worthy of worship or upholds the righteous standard of a holy God demands the attention of God’s people. A mind filled with God’s Word will desire the things of God.

Rewards are primarily future and spiritual. Christians ought to give to God out of a loving heart knowing that He will reward as He sees fit.

The gospel requires people to work in order to meet their needs.

The gospel focuses on the material needs of others.

The gospel warns others of the spiritual pitfalls of accumulated wealth.

The gospel encourages Christians to give from that which they have been entrusted.

The gospel teaches believers to have faith in Go.



Isa 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

Joyce Meyer of the Prosperity Gospel says “By his stripes I was healed. Healing belongs to me.”  Acceding to prosperity teachers, the cure for healing is to have a positive outlook – thinking and saying the right words (90).

Actually the healing comes as a miracle from God and not from our own positive outlook. And the verses clearly focus on spiritual healing of “our transgressions,” “our iniquity” and the “chastisement of our peace.”


Posted by: Damon Whitsell | March 2, 2011


NOTE FROM ADMIN: This review is very long because it is a chapter by chapter review, commentary and outline. I believe it is well worth the time to read.


Note: This book is excellent in every way. I highly recommend it.

Why is the prosperity gospel so popular?
1. It contains a grain of truth.
2. Appeals to the natural human desire to be successful
3. It promises much and requires little.
4. Many of its advocates have polished presentations.
5. Many followers have little knowledge of the Bible doctrine.
6. Many have experienced success and healing and have attributed it to the prosperity gospel.
7. Many Christians lack discernment in this area (p18-19)


In 1895 a Boston group defined its doctrine as “to show that through right thinking one’s loftiest ideals may be brought into realization and to advance intelligent and systematic treatment of disease by spiritual and mental methods.” (p27).

Emanuel Swedenborg (1688-1772) was a clairvoyant who claimed to have spoken to Paul for over a year and with Martin Luther over 100 times. Yet, contrary to Luther, he rejected the Trinity, the deity of Christ and salvation by grace through faith alone. The human mind has the capacity to control the physical world. (P28-29).

Phineas Quimby (1802-66), the Father of New Thought, pioneered the idea of mental healing. The mind can create and influence others by thinking what one wanted to happen (p29). He believed that sickness follows disturbance of the mind (30). Mary Eddy Baker was one of his patients (31).

Ralph Waldo Trine (1866-1958) taught that Buddha was equally inspired with the Bible. Influenced Napoleon Hill (31-32).

Norman Vincent Peal (1898-1993) wrote The Power of Positive Thinking (1952). Chapters were Prayer the Most Powerful Form of Energy; How to Think Your Way to Success and Change Your Thoughts and You Change Everything. Peale merged secular ideas with biblical themes (3-34).


As an organized movement the prosperity gospel has only existed for about a hundred years (50).

E W Kenyon (1867-1948), Father of the Prosperity Gospel, was influenced by Unitarian-Universalists and Christian Science. He taught that speaking the right words would bring about a new reality and probably began the phrase “What I confess, I possess.” (51) Positive confession is the key to prosperous living and health. “The cross has no salvation in it. It is a place of failure and defeat.” “When Jesus died his spirit was taken by the Adversary and carried to the place where the sinner’s spirit goes when he dies.” ”The value of Christianity is what we get out of it.” In Kenyon’s system a relationship with God is a means for a person to get what he or she wants. God never planned that we should live in poverty – physical, mental or spiritual.” (52-53)

KENNETH E HAGIN: (1917-2003) (54): In the late 1940s Oral Roberts spread the word about faith healing and faith prosperity. Kenneth Hagin is the Father of the Word of Faith movement. At age 16 he reported dying, seeing Hell and being brought back to life 3 times while being converted. At age 17 he reported seeing Jesus 8 times in a few months. Typical of prosperity preachers, he relied on extrabiblical revelations (54). As an Assembly of God preacher, he claimed to be an anointed prophet. His message from Jesus was “Say it. Do it. Receive it. Tell it.” Critics have found many verbatim quotations plagiarized from Kenyon (55).


1. A Distorted View of God:
Many deny the Trinity: God is one in essence and three in person – coequal and coeternal. They teach the ancient heresy of MODALISM: God is One in Person and appears in different Modes; God is not simultaneously the Father, Son and Spirit. TD Jakes, a Oneness Pentecostal, teaches Modalism. In 1990 Benny Hinn proclaimed that each person of the Godhead was Triune (57). Creflo Dollar says that God is one person with 3 different roles.

Kenneth Copeland wrote “I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is … The biggest One in the whole Bible is God … Now the reason you don’t think of God as a failure is He never said He’s a failure.” (58)

2. Elevation of Mind Over Matter (59)

Like New Thought, words –both thought and spoken—are a force and have creative power. Charles Capps wrote “Man speaks spirit words that work in the world of the spirit. … Man breathes spirit life into God’s Word and it becomes a living substance, working for him as it worked for God in the beginning. These spirit words dominate the natural world” (59).

Creflo Dollar said “As believers we have authority over the physical world.” Speaking the right words combined with faith in those words can produce amazing results (59). The believer’s task is to use the words in order to exercise spiritual laws for their own benefit. (60) If believers repeat the right words and believe, then God must bless.

Dollar says “God uses words to create what he wants to exist. Christians have the same ability. … When you want healing, say what the Bible says ‘By his stripes I am healed’” (60). These arguments are false because they fail to distinguish between in Infinite Omnipotent God and finite humans; if people had the same creative power of God they should be able to create new objects out of nothing (61).

Kenneth Copeland says that once you have prayed in faith … You can now rest assured that what you prayed will now come to pass. They seem to forget the conditional aspect of prayer – “Thy will be done.” Copeland thinks that it was God’s faith in His own words that created the world. In Copeland’s twisted theology even the God of the universe needs faith (61).

Joyce Meyer even provides lists of positive confessions. The positive confessions are simply positive thinking like that of the secular New Thought’s law of attraction: you attract what you think about (62).

Joel Osteen says you have to see your success in your mind because what you see in your mind is what you produce. Mind over matter (62).

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HAT_TIP TO TouchYaNeighbor

Many of the readers of this blog, and even one of our groupblog authors, are Charismatic and Pentecostal and this video is not meant to offend anyone. We are against the Word of Faith Movement and not necessarily Charismatics and Pentecostals. But I found this teaching series to be very good and I wanted the readers of this blog to have a chance to hear it if they have not already. I think a series by Phil Johnson is the only sermon on this topic I have heard that I liked better.

The video above is One of 20 videos, to see all 20 videos SEE THE VIDEO PLAYLIST HERE

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 28, 2011

Ex-Word of Faith Testimony of Karen

This is a great testimony that a reader of sent in as a comment.

I got saved in’ 78 on Valentines Day. What a love gift! But I immediately entered into the teachings of the Health and Wealth Gospel. After about 8 years of indoctrination and feeding on Kenyan, Hagin, Copeland, Capps, Hayes, Hickey, the Hunters, Savelle, Avanzene, Price and on and on to you know who -that would be Joyce of course- I had a good friend who had been just as steeped in the teaching who had moved away and who had begun to call me, dropping bombs in my spirit about it all being a lot of error. I would argue with her at first, but eventually the truth of it all began to chip away at what I had been taught.

Part of the chipping came while I was reading one of Watchman Nee’s books, “The Latent Power of the Soul. I remember reading “The Balanced Christian Life”, “The Spiritual Man”, “Sit, Walk, Stand”, “The Release of The Spirit”, “Christ:The Sum of All Things”, and” Spiritual Authority.” His books came highly recommended in Charismatic circles, but when I read “The Latent Power of The Soul” it did something to me. It startled me when Nee began to elaborate on the type of deceptive signs and wonders that would enter the Church in the last days. I, for one know I am saved; but unlike my Christian friends at the time, I always felt that I could be deceived if I was not careful. Like me they did not believe in “once saved, always saved,” but when I shared the thought that the deception coming would be so intense that if possible even we could be deceived with another of my best Christian friends at the time, she assured me I had nothing to worry about, that the Lord would never let me be so deceived. How could she be so sure? And she was positive! Even though I could not at the time explain it, something seemed suddenly very wrong. Shocked that she would think that way, I began to pull away from everyone and reevaluate what I was learning in the faith and wealth gospel. I remember deciding not to call any of my friends and just read and seek God about it all.

As I did, I was blown away that in James we are taught that it is the poor (and the context is not talking about “poor in spirit” but is obviously talking about poor with little finances) who are rich in faith. Certainly not the message of the Copelands! I also remember we were taught not to say “if it be they will” because that showed doubt and doubt and unbelief would hinder your prayers. We were taught to learn through the Word what the Will of God was and not pray “if it be thy will.”

Then I read in James 4, thank God, “13Now listen, you who say, “Today or tomorrow we will go to this or that city, spend a year there, carry on business and make money.” 14Why, you do not even know what will happen tomorrow. What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes. 15Instead, you ought to say, “If it is the Lord’s will, we will live and do this or that.” 16As it is, you boast and brag. All such boasting is evil. 17Anyone, then, who knows the good he ought to do and doesn’t do it, sins.”

Oh, my. What we were being taught was boasting and evil. I was flabbergasted. How in the world could we possibly know the Lord’s will 100% of the time. How arrogant! Then I remember being taught that we really did not want to be like Job, because Job had a lot of fear and doubt and because of that, what he feared came upon Him. We were led away from considering Job and his sufferings. It was a place we did not want to go. We were to be stronger and more steadfast in our faith than he was and so it was not a book we loved or studied.

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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 27, 2011

BLOGGING TIP: Make Google Alerts your virtual research assistant

I have not posted here in months. I have been studying and posting on Islam and doing allot of website designing. Since I won’t be posting much here anymore I wanted to share a BIG SECRET with you. About a year ago I had found almost all the WoF material I could find, after a year and a half of researching, and then I started using google alerts to notify me of any new WoF post. A few of my WoF google alerts are “Word of Faith”, “Word of Faith Movement”, Benny Hinn”, “prosperity gospel”,,etc. I also use them for Islam post. It is a great way to be a better blogger, stay on top of current events and it just makes things so easy.

I hope you will enjoy and put my little secret to good work for you and your God given endeavors.



Posted by: papagiorgio200 | February 27, 2011

Benny Hinn – Dark Lord of the Sith

Benny Hinn meets star wars.


Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 26, 2011

Promoting Touch ya Neighbor Ministries


I have not posted here in months, the Lord has had me doing other projects lately, but I want to take a minute to promote a new ministry to the readers of this blog. That ministry is Touch ya Neighbor Ministries.

The  writer brdavision is a fearless young brother who tells it the way it is. And he likes to touch only on contraversial issue that harldy no one else touches. like this one named Emotionalism and Existentialism Have no place in Christianity. I have yet to read anything on the blog I disagreed with,,, so therefor I highly recommend this site to the readers of this blog and everyone else.



Posted by: WoF Unveiled | February 26, 2011

The Third Tithe!

The Third Tithe!

Our modern day tithe teachers are leaving an indelible impression in the minds of their followers that the ancient Jews tithed only 10% of their gross income and demand that Christians must also tithe 10% of their gross income to their local Churches.

However, to make such an assumption is totally false and contrary to the scriptures.

There were multiple tithes prescribed in the Mosaic law contrary to popular opinion. Let us focus on the 3rd tithe in this article.

Definition of the 3rd tithe:

After the Sabbatical year, on every third and sixth year the farm owning Israelites must keep the increase of their produce within their gates and distribute it to the Levites, the widows, the poor and the strangers.

The 3rd tithe is also known as:

The Charity tithe / Tithe for the poor / Welfare tithe

Some of the distinct things about the 3rd tithe were, little to no traveling and transportation involved and this is the only tithe for which God promises to bless the works of the giver. No promises were given for the givers of the 1st and 2nd tithes in the Mosaic law. Also after paying the 3rd tithe the tithers were required to offer a specific declaration and a prayer as prescribed in Deuteronomy 26:13-15. There are no instructions in the Mosaic law to offer any specific prayer after paying the 1st or 2nd tithes.

Proof from the law of Moses (Scriptures about the 3rd tithe):

Deuteronomy 14:28

“At the end of every third year you shall bring out all the tithe of your produce in that year, and shall deposit it in your town.”

Deuteronomy 14:29

“The Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance among you, and the alien, the orphan and the widow who are in your town, shall come and eat and be satisfied, in order that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hand which you do.”

Deuteronomy 26:12 – 15

“When you have finished paying all the tithe of your increase in the third year, the year of tithing, then you shall give it to the Levite, to the stranger, to the orphan and to the widow, that they may eat in your towns and be satisfied.”

Questions and Answers about the third tithe:

1. What was tithable as the third tithe?

* One tenth of the increase in the produce. Money (Shekel) is not mentioned and the cattle are not mentioned either.

2. Who were the recipients?

* The Levites, the widows, the poor and the strangers (aliens) were the recipients and the final owners of this tithe.

3. Where should they bring the tithes?

* Within their gates and within the boundaries of their town.

4. What was the purpose?

* In order that the Lord God of Israel may bless you in all the work of your hand which you do.

5. How often it should be paid?

* Every third year, that was on the 3rd and 6th year from the Sabbatical year.

6. Was it redeemable?

* No, it could not be redeemed. It must be given out and no redemption option was specified in the Mosiac law. The third tithe must not be converted into money.

7. When it was paid?

* At the END of the 3rd year.

8. Were livestock involved?

* No, animals were not part of the 3rd tithe.

9. What was the difference between the third tithe and the other two tithes?

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Posted by: WoF Unveiled | January 23, 2011

Should The Church Teach Tithing? – Russell Earl Kelly

Tithing is one of the fundamental doctrines of the Word of Faith movement. Tithing is described as the “law of prosperity” over and over again in the Word of Faith circles. Several Word of Faith preachers lied to their followers and have become rich by using the money of their gullible followers.

Russell Earl Kelly who had spent countless hours in researching about tithing in the Bible presents the truth from God’s word.

This is a 4 part series in Vimeo

Christians please watch these 4 part video series and protect yourselves from mammon loving Word of Faith preachers!

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | January 3, 2011

Ex-Word of Faith Testimony of Bob Scruggs

We thank Bob for sharing his great testimony and apologize for being slow at posting it. We are also leaving comments open for the page per Bob’s request for comments. If you would like to comment, we will make sure that Bob gets your comments. THANKS

Good Morning!

The reason I am writing this is because I rarely see encouraging articles from people in the “word of faith” movement. It’s always miracles, signs and wonders, most of which they just talk about rather that show true evidence of. It is always, “send me money so God can bless you.”

I’ve read many of your articles concerning the false prosperity prophets we have today and thank you for exposing them on your web site or You Tube. I would like to point out that this is nothing new, my first exposure to this false teaching was back in 1954 at a Pentecostal church. I left the hospital, recovering from a severe burn accident with my arms infected and was in great pain. A friend of the family started taking me to several Pentecostal healing services in the Washington, DC area. When there were no results the preachers blamed my lack of faith etc,. The friend also took me to a “faith healer” and tent “evangelist” Jack Coe, who turned out to be another false teacher, died a year later. I just could not understand why God would not heal me. I was thirteen, saved and thought, based on the teachings I was getting that I did have enough faith to be healed . Several preachers looked at my swollen arms would pray and then say “you have to have faith”, then walk away leaving me feeling like I had no faith and questioned my salvation because of the “Fire And Brimstone ” teaching being taught. After months of pain I did recover even though the healing wasn’t instant. GOD was working in my life in spite of the spiritual leadership I was getting. It was years later that I realized what “JESUS” meant when HE said “My Grace Is Sufficient For You” but the Pentecostal preachers left more scars on me than my burns did.

While attending these loud, out of order and scary services, the pastor would bring in “special anointed” evangelist that traveled around going from church to church, “preying” on the people, usually on a Friday night (pay day) preaching the same nonsense that you see today. The “pay me so God can bless you” ministers. Even though I did not attend these services often, one night several years later, just before going into the Marines, the preacher said that “GOD” was going to give a special blessing to all those that would give $100, then $50, then $25. Since I’d just been paid (I cleared around $45 a week) and was leaving home in a few days, I felt I could give $25.00. People lined up with their money in hand, the preacher laid his hand forcefully on their foreheads and they would fall down with the “Catchers ” behind them. When it came to my turn I was prepared  to fall down, which I did, not because of the so called power of the preacher but because everyone else was falling, as I laid there I even looked around to see if others got up so I could. What a hair raising experience, I stayed away from these “ fake” signs and wonders” for years.

Many years later I got involved with a prison ministry. I was to meet my mentor inside a prison for my first volunteer bible study but he did not show up and I had to conduct the bible study on my own. I had never done this before, was unprepared and couldn’t wait to it was over. When I walked out of the prison I felt miserable thinking I let God down, but He gave me the desire and compassion for this type of ministry. I was determined to learn what the bible teaches instead of relying on what someone else was teaching in church or on TV and ask the Lord to help me. I really felt inadequate for the task but found that the Holy Spirit really does the work, I have to be willing. I started going to this prison every week and after awhile started conducting bible study’s in several prisons. Of the many laymen volunteers that taught ” God’s Word “, none ever had there names in “Lights”, asked for money to go to more prisons or portrayed The Lord as some personal benefactor that needs an intercessor (them) to answer prayers. They all talked of forgiveness, personal responsibility, obedience, love, that the Lord is with us through it all, not that He will ALWAYS heal, ALWAYS prosper but that He will ALWAYS be with you. – NO- COPELAND- HINN-PARSEY-ROBERTS, ETC. , no offerings or preach the “WORD OF FAITH” movement . If they had, I doubt if they would have gotten out alive. Which brings up the point, if the “WORD OF FAITH MOVEMENT” is correct, it would be easy to convince the lost to come aboard the gravy train, obtain wealth and health. The problem is that only the preachers are prospering by preaching this evil deception. How many inmates would continue to come to the bible studies if they were told they could get wealth and out of prison sooner if they would accept the “word of faith” gospel and quickly found out it was a lie. Of course, most of these Word of Faith ministers do not go to prisons, partly because they won’t get any money there. It is bad enough that some of these “ministers” raise millions of dollars for themselves, and give precious little to anyone, any organization or ministry in need, but they are puffed up with their own self-importance, some threaten to “curse” anyone who dare speak against them or disagree with their message and they clearly are teaching a gospel other than that in the bible. The true gospel should and is being taken throughout the world with the same results as the first apostles had, sharing the salvation message and people coming to know Jesus Christ as their personal savior and His plan of salvation. Most of these men and women of God struggle financially, are in a position to help many if they had proper funding but get $0 from these “pay me so God will bless/heal you people”.

One of the biggest lessons I learned was that a person doesn’t have to be cleaver with “GODS WORD” but to teach the basic salvation principles, encouragement, and that great “LOVE OF GOD” and how through “Grace Are We Saved By Faith”. I also learned to trust “GODS WORD”, LUKE 22:35 NIV JESUS told the disciples “When I Sent You Without Purse, Bag Or Sandals, Did You Lack Anything?” “Nothing” They answered. I had just started a cleaning business to support my family but I did learn to trust God for my needs and my business grew over time and gave me the opportunity to devote more time to the ministry not with a lot of excess or instant wealth but we made enough to meet my needs. Once I was ask to take over a ministry at a brig at a military base that was over 50 miles away. Not really being able to afford it I prayed that God would provide my needs, and He never let me down. Have you noticed that the “Faith Teachers” want your support money before they go to the next conference?

“Signs And Wonders”- “Fire Conferences” … Think about this, if I put up posters in the prisons saying there is going to be a special “Signs and Wonders” Conference, would the inmates think that this was a ticket to a magic or freak show? If it was called a “Fire Conference” would the warden greet me with armed guards stating that it’s against state law to start fires or bring explosions in prisons. These terms are misleading.

There comes a time in ministry and our personal lives that we ask ourselves is God’s Word real and does it really work? In my years of prison ministry I’ve seen hundreds come to the simple salvation message with changed lives and with future hope. Not by a fancy sermon or cleaver words but of bringing the words of our Savior Jesus and letting the Holy Spirit do His work. “THE TRUTH Will SET YOU FREE” to the lost. Never did anyone receiving Jesus Salvation Message ever fall backwards, roll on the floor, make animal noises, act insane, or jerk around as you see from the Pentecostal and TV preachers.

What of all the miracles that we hear so much about from the “TV FALSE PROPHETS”. I’m convinced that God does miracles in all our lives but that He’s the one who deserves the credit, these people talked as if God needs their help and we must go through them for God to act and usually for a price. While in the prison ministry I saw many subtle signs of God’s intervention, I saw lives changed, hope, forgiveness, restoration, understanding, and above all – new “hearts”. The Holy Spirit does give a new conscience, I experienced it and saw it in many. Only God can change someone’s mind and heart without indoctrination. The biggest response I ever received for salvation was when I didn’t want to go, it was a cold rainy night and I was in a bad mood and not prepared but went out of obedience. I was shown it is definitely God, not me.,One night I came home during an ice/snow storm and was hit from behind at a stop light. Since I was prayed for by the guys and was doing “God’s work” I was a bit disappointed that I got hit and had slight injuries that’s when we really need to trust The Lord when things go bad.The biggest miracle I personally witnessed was when a murderer had accepted the gospel message and ask Christ in his life, regardless of my inadequacies. I had volunteered at a county jail as an assistant chaplain that housed about 2000 prisoners and had about 40 requests a day to see me. On one occasion I went to a special security cell and noticed the person’s name on the request form had been on the nightly news several weeks before. He had murdered his mother-in-law in front of his wife and kids while high on drugs. Well, this just didn’t set well with me, I pre-judged him and kept my visit short no “Love Of Christ Here”. Later I was really convicted of my sin and letting down Jesus. I went home and ask the Lord to forgive me for judging him, being in a bad mood and not showing the love I needed to show and besides, that is what I was there for, to try to bring others to the love and forgiveness of Jesus Christ.

The next day I went to visit him and ask the guard to let me take him out of the cell to the chaplains office. The guard refused since he was considered very violent and had to be watched 24 hours a day and besides, he said the inmate was twice my size and he could he not be responsible for my safety. I said that God will protect me and something like “This Is God’s Business “. He went up the chain of command to get permission and I was able to bring him to the office. The first thing I did was to apologize for not being the Christian that I should have been the day before and for pre-judging him. I ask his forgiveness he was shocked. I gave him some coffee and treats I snuck in. He ask me what kind of sentence he could expect and I told him most likely the electric chair in a few years. He stated that he wanted to die for his crime and ask if God could forgive him. I ask him if he ever heard about King David the giant killer and about his life etc. Even though he was responsible for taken a life God forgave him !

We discussed Jesus plan of salvation and read scripture and prayed for the Lord’s Forgiveness. Holding my hands he accepted Jesus into his heart. Was this just a jailhouse conversion or was it real? I know it was real by his response to the simple salvation message, the look in his eyes and his countenance change. The chaplain in charge also saw the change in this man’s life and arranged with the sheriff office to allow him to attend bible studies with other inmates without deputy escorts. Now that is a miracle!

As I watch these “False Prophets” on TV always raising money for their ministries, their false prophecies, lavish lifestyles etc, I see the same repeats of the 1950’s except they have have a much larger audience to deceive due to the world wide TV coverage  they are one of the delusions that God has sent for those who do not know God’s word. These preachers know what they are doing, laughing their way to the bank and gathering followers the ones that do not know Jesus or are just ignorant of Gods Word and continue to search for Signs And Wonders, etc. following these “False Christ” just as Jesus said they would in the last days.

I’m retired now and as I look back I wonder, as many of us do, did I do enough? Did I fail Jesus because I wasn’t cleaver with my bible study, not a great speaker, what more could/should have I done? I guess we all evaluate what we should have done, but I do know this by teaching God’s Word as instructed by Jesus we can’t go wrong, we are His disciples and His word proves that if God could use me with all my flaws He can use anybody. I’ve been reluctant to write this article for various reasons. First, I don’t take any credit for what the Lord has done in my life or to make it appear that I’m this great man of faith. Rather, I hope that others might realize that Jesus is working in their life as He did mine, perhaps bringing His subtle caring ways to the surface in your life. Think about this, when I started in the prison ministry I was still a federal prisoner on probation, had to get permission from the prison warden to visit any state or federal facility due to having spent several months at “camp fed” after losing a tax case. They rarely allow this. Yes, God can use anybody! Comments Welcome!

The prisons that I conducted bible studies were : Virginia Department Of Corrections– Fairfax Detention Center– Quantico Marine Base Fairfax, Va- Fairfax, Va- Marine Brig Quantico

Yours In Christ
Bob Scruggs


Posted by: Damon Whitsell | January 3, 2011

The Word of Faith Movement and the Anti-Christ by

“But as time now presses for the consideration of the question immediately in hand, and as what has been already said in the introduction with regard to the glory of God, may suffice, it is proper that we take the Holy Scriptures themselves in hand, and find out from them what, and of what manner, the coming of Antichrist is; on what occasion and at what time that impious one shall be revealed; and whence and from what tribe (he shall come); and what his name is, which is indicated by the number in the Scripture; and how he shall work error among the people, gathering them from the ends of the earth; and he shall stir up tribulation and persecution against the saints; and how he shall glorify himself as God; and what his end shall be; and how the sudden appearing of the Lord shall be revealed from heaven; and what the conflagration of the whole world shall be; and what the glorious and heavenly kingdom of the saints is to be, when they reign together with Christ; and what the punishment of the wicked by fire.” – Hippolytus: Treatise on Christ and Antichrist

Hippolytus (c170-c236) was considered one of the most important 3rd-century theologians in the Christian Church in Rome. He was a disciple of Irenaeus who in turn was a disciple of Polycarp the disciple of John the Apostle. In the modern age, we have been filled with numerous theories of Eschatology and there is great debate today over who or what the antichrist is. The mentorship of the early church was something they took seriously, and above we see the thread from the Apostle John through to Hippolytus. Hippolytus came into conflict with the popes of his time, he opposed the Roman bishops who softened the penitential system to accommodate the large number of new pagan converts. It becomes evident by Hippolytus’ treatise that he viewed the coming of Antichrist to be yet future. And his dissertation of the Antichrist is biblically accurate. Numerous early Church Fathers wrote in reference to the Antichrist such as Irenaeus and Jerome. Irenaeus wrote that the Antichrist shall come as “an apostate,” the very embodiment of “satanic apostasy.” From the fist century Church, believers were convinced that the Antichrist figure would eventually come on the world scene. It must be understood that the prefix “anti” in connection with the Anitchrist can mean either “against” (i.e. in opposition to) or “instead of” (in place of). It becomes clear in Scripture that both apply as he will oppose God by speaking blasphemy against God and will stand in the place of Christ asserting he is God. The most compelling characteristics of the Antichrist is depicted in Daniel 11:21, which tells us he will come to power and “seize it through intrigue” (flatteries). He is a master of deception, empowered by the father of lies.”

The end result of deception is apostasy and Jesus in the Olivet Discourse gives clear evidence of the scale to which the church will be overrun with deception just prior to His Second Coming. No less than three times Jesus mentions the emergence of “false Christ’s” and “false prophets” appearing on the scene who’s primary agenda is deception (Matt. 24:5, 11, 24). These deceivers will perform great signs and wonders to deceive (if possible) God’s elect. Today, with all the hype surrounding signs and wonders and all the talk of the supernatural, the ground work is being laid for the one person (Antichrist) to appear on the world scene who will bring it all to pass. 2 Thessalonians 2:9-10 states his coming is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders and with all unrighteous deception. What many seem to misunderstand is the counterfeit is always camouflaged, on the exterior there is always an outward show of genuineness. The two essential elements which characterizes the genuine, distinguishing it from the counterfeit is “the love of the truth,” and the “belief of the truth” – 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12. Deceivers produce convincing, but deceptive, signs and lying wonders, not every miracle comes from God, nor are such wonders any less miraculous because of their origin. One thing is certain, the miracle itself is not reliable, it must be tested by the Word of God.

Today we have the Benny Hinn’s, Bill Johnson’s, and Todd Bentley’s, whose ministries center around the supernatural. To date, there have been no confirmable organic healings from these ministries, no confirmed dead raised though claims to the contrary have been proclaimed by these ministries. The deception surfacing from these types of ministries have been by their theatrics of miracles and their ability to sway people by fair speech, and smooth words. When you look beyond the miracle to the man, examining their teachings, they have ways of behaving and teaching that are intended to make people notice them instead achieving the particular aim of glorifying Jesus Christ. Presently, the signs and wonder movement uses a straw man tactic to shift the focus from Jesus Christ to the miracle itself and to the man. Miss direction is a magicians trick, ministries today use the same tactics by putting focus on the supernatural rather than on Jesus Christ. Jesus stated in John 15:26 “But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me.” The Holy Spirit is in all pretence “truth” who’s witness of Christ is authentic, He testifies of Jesus Christ, never of Himself. The focus on the Holy Spirit today is a miss direction and is used today with the “Operation of the Gifts” to make Ministers popular. Jesus is the fullness of the Godhead bodily, the sum total of divine attributes resonate in Jesus Christ. If a miracle is valid it will point to the Person and Work of Christ, not the vehicle or vessel through which it comes.

It’s Not if But When

What will be the effect on (those who stand solidly on the Word of God; boldly calling out, naming and proclaiming, sounding the alarm to avoid those false teachers who claim miracles, signs and wonders), those of us who believe, when (not if) the miracles, signs and wonders are verifiable? Scripture is clear that this will be so. Currently the majority of the discernment ministries out there are focused mostly on the lack of “proof” that the false teachers claim of the miraculous can’t be verified. We need to completely refocus, what will happen to our belief in Christ when:

· arms and legs that are missing are suddenly restored?

· those that were dead are now walking and talking?

· those in wheel chairs come out of them?

· the blind begin to see?

· the deaf begin to hear?

Will we stand strong-solid on God’s Word? Will this possibly be what Scripture calls the strong delusion (2 Thess. 2:11) that “if possible, deceives the very elect?” (Matt. 24:24). One thing is certain, no real miracle, sign or wonder is ever at the expense of the truth. Is the focus on “the Christ” or another christ? Most today claim the miraculous in the name of Christ but when you look deeper you discover the ideology of their belief system stipulates they are “Christ’s.” Many cessationist hang their hat on the lack of proof from ministries claiming the miraculous and their inability to verify claims of healing and the dead raised.

When you consider the Corinthian church, they were prideful, and were arrogantly presuming the full right in this life to things promised in part at the present, things only fully realized in the coming of Christ’s kingdom. They were drawing their ideals from the false standards of fallacious teachings born out of the spirit of this age. Forgetting that this era’s values stand judged under the Cross of Christ, Paul warns them in 1 Cor 4:6 not to go beyond what is written. The “strong delusion” mentioned by Paul in 2 Thessalonians 2:11 is God’s doing. The reason is because of the pervasive belief in “the lie” rather than a love and belief in “the truth.”

The Antichrist

There are two aspects to the antichrist, the “spirit of antichrist,” and the “person of antichrist”. The “spirit of antichrist” can be defined as the spirit of humanism, of man being his own god. However one defines it, Scripturally, it is a spirit that inspires false teachings and functions within the structure of the Church. John defined it as the spirit of error. What fundamentally distinguishes those who are “false prophets, apostles, and teachers” from the people of God is their respective attitudes toward Jesus Christ, i.e. who He is and what He came to do (1 John 4:1-6). Essential to the Church is the Gospel message, justification by faith, the sanctification of the believer (holiness living), and the present hope of the future return of Jesus Christ. These are the doctrines consequential to the “spirit of truth.” Notable to the “spirit of error” are doctrines which diminish the deity of Jesus Christ, His incarnation, His sinless life, His relationship to the Father, His redemptive work on the Cross and His resurrection. And in the place of Jesus Christ, they exalt man to “little gods” as does the Word of Faith teachers, those of the New Apostolic Reformation, and the “Emergent Church Movement.” (NOTE: Serpent said to eve you will be like God) These three stream movements are rooted in the metaphysical cults and new age thought, camouflaged as Christianity they have penetrated denominational lines changing historic Christianity and how we think and view the Scripture. Looking into their doctrines concerning Jesus, these movements have turned the Biblical Jesus into a metaphysical, philosophical creation. The Roman Catholic church, the Greek Orthodox church, the Russian Orthodox church, the Mormon church, the “Christian” cults, and the New Age Movement (comprising of a combination of eastern religious practices), believe man can eventually ascend to godhood through various spiritual disciplines. (NOTE: Lucifer said I will ascend to) The majority of WoF preachers have turned Adam into a carbon copy of God Himself and Jesus into a mere man striped of His deity. However, according to them, Jesus gained godhood after he suffered in hell for the redemption of man. In their reasoning’s, the death of Christ on the Cross was an insufficient price to pay for sin, he had to take on the nature of Satan and suffer in hell to accomplish it. This my friends is the “spirit of error,” the “spirit of antichrist!” And I can tell you with all Biblical accuracy and assurance, they have their “Best Life Now!”

While the spirit of error diminishes the soul, the spirit of antichrist causes deception to prosper. Daniel prophesied of a king (antichrist, little horn) who would rise to power during the 70th week of Daniel. He will be the physical manifestation of the spirit of antichrist already at work in the world. He will understand sinister schemes, and through his cunning he shall cause deceit to prosper under his rule (Daniel 8:23-25). Many view this king as Antiochus Epiphanies who came out of Syria to persecute the Jews and profane the temple between 171 and 164 B.C. He is however the Antichrist of the last days who will actively oppose God and His people. Jesus spoke of Him in Matthew 24:15 as the abomination of desolation as did Paul in 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 as the “man of sin,” “the son of perdition.” It must be understood that in Matthew 24, the events Jesus describes occur within the 70th week of Daniel. The Greek word parousia is used four times between verse 3-39 threading the events listed in this chapter together, all centered around the appearing of Christ in the clouds to rapture the living on earth and resurrect the dead in Christ. However, that doesn’t mean we won’t see much of the deception Jesus describes prior to the 70th week. In fact, I personally believe much of what we are witnessing today in the WoF, NAR, and Emergent Church shadows upon us this last prophetic week of Daniel. Just as you first see the storm clouds approaching before the storm arrives, we can anticipate the consummation of the age through current events, when we compare them to Scripture, it all lines up. The deception Jesus warns us about in Matthew 24:4 has in all pretense been since the first generation church. However, we see today a global deception growing exponentially through these three movements.

In the study of Eschatology, hermeneutics requires we find a common denominator between various text, (words or phrases, etc.) which links an episode together. Daniels language is clearly eschatological, denoting a multilevel prophetic fulfillment. Prophetic fulfillments closest to the prophets’ own day were mingled with those reaching as far as the final culmination of all things. A motif is an idea, or subject that is frequently repeated in literature. For instance, the “Day of the Lord” is a Motif used by the Old Testament prophets to signify a time in the history of mankind when God directly intervenes to bring salvation to His people and punishment to the wicked. It is a reoccurring theme in the New Testament dealing with the Second Coming of Christ who inaugurates the Day of the Lord, during which Christ’s personal, righteous, and universal rule will restore God’s order to the Earth.

Daniel gives several names to this future figure we identify as Antichrist. Daniel calls him the “little horn,” “Beast,” “Prince,” “king,” just as in the new testament we are given titles such as “beast,” “man of sin,” “antichrist,” “king,” etc. The connection to these titles are seen in his opposition to God, the abomination of desolation, his persecution of the saints, and his self exaltation in the place of God. When you study Daniel chapters 7,9, and 11, along with Matthew 24, 2 Thessalonians 2, all are reoccurring themes connected to the Revelation Beast described by John. Below are three examples:

“Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the Temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” – 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4

“Then the king shall do according to his own will: he shall exalt and magnify himself above every god, shall speak blasphemies against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the wrath has been accomplished; for what has been determined shall be done.” – Daniel 11:36

“And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty two months. Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven.” – Revelation 13:5-6

False Religious System


I listened to brother Mike (from Closing Stages) give this excellent book review and teaching AUDIO of “Heavy Rain” by Christ Vallotton. I’ve been meaning to post it to help more people hear Mikes sound and well presented counter teaching to this book but have been unable. I hope you all enjoy it. Hear the AUDIO HERE.

Posted by: WoF Unveiled | December 10, 2010

Tithing Study Tabular Columns!

Tithing Study Tabular Columns!

Levitical Tithes Versus Festival Tithes

~~~~~~~~~~ Levitical Tithe Festival Tithe
Scripture Verses Leviticus 27, Numbers 18:25-32 and Hebrews 7:5-11 Deuteronomy 12:16-21, 14:22-26, Exodus 23:14-17 and
Deuteronomy 16:16
Where to Eat Eaten anywhere in the promised land (only Levites could


Only Eaten In Jerusalem
Who Received Tribe of Levi excluding Aaronic Priests All tribes of Israel
Final Ownership 90% owned by the Tribe Of Levi and 10% went to Aaronic


Original Owners
Why Substitute for Land inheritance Teach the fear of The Lord
Option to convert to money Add 20% to the monetary value and bring it to Levites No redemption option specified
Further Action Levites Tithed 10th of the Tithe to Aaronic Priests No further action – all consumed during festivals

Leverite Marriage Law Versus Tithing Law
~~~~~~~~~~ Leverite Marriage Law – Marrying deceased husband’s male


Tithing Law
Definition Marrying deceased husband’s nearest male relative if there

are no surviving male heirs

ALWAYS food, agricultural products, seed of the land,

produce, oil, wine and livestock INSIDE the promised land but
NEVER referred to earned income or money

How it started? Unknown and no specific reason or commandment given Unknown and specific reason or commandment
Purpose To continue and preserve the male line of the deceased husband Levite tithe is to offset the loss of land inheritance for the tribe of Levi & Festival tithe is to teach the fear of the Lord
Before the law of Moses Practiced Practiced
Compulsory or Optional? Mandatory in many parts of the ancient Middle East Not compulsory but done as a free will offering or part of a previous vow
Incorporation into the Law of Moses Modified and adapted into the Mosaic law, also affected inter-tribe marriages Modified and codified into the Mosaic law, different tithes introduced
How did it start? Unknown and no specific reason or commandment given Unknown and specific reason or commandment
Frequency Does not matter, could happen in any year 6 years of continuous tithing and on the 7th year no tithing
Mentioned in the Talmud Discussed at least in one tractate Discussed at least in one tractate
Question posed to Jesus? Sadducees posed a specific question to Jesus No one asked Jesus about tithing
What did Jesus say? Never explicitly abrogated and did not command the Jews to discontinue the practice Never explicitly abrogated but asked the Jews under the law

to tithe from garden herbs

Elsewhere in the New Testament Mentioned only by Jesus and the Sadducees, not mentioned elsewhere Mentioned by Jesus and mentioned in the book of Hebrews
Primary Subject of in the mentioned New Testament verse No, resurrection was the primary subject when the Sadducees questioned Jesus No, pride vs. humility (in the parable – Luke 18:9-14),

emphasis on justice and mercy (Matt. 23:23/Luke 11:42) and
comparison of Levitical and Melchizadek’s priesthood (Hebrews

Apostle Paul’s position Paul never made a statement about the custom of Leverite
Paul never mentioned about tithing
Commanded to New Testament Christians? No, A Christian woman need not marry her deceased
husband’s nearest male relative if there is no surviving


No, A Christian is not commanded to tithe to the local
How today’s Christian church (various denominations)
follow both?
No Pastor asks a Christian widow to remarry or ask her to
marry her husband’s nearest male relatives if she does not
have a son even though it is practiced before the law of
Pastors exhort Christians to give 10% of their gross income
(money earned) stating that tithing was practiced even before
the law of Moses!

Comparison Between Abraham’s tithe, Jacob’s tithe and tithing under the law of Moses
Abraham’s Tithe Jacob’s Tithe Under the law of Moses
Only Abraham tithed and not his servants Only Jacob (promised to) tithe and not his sons and
Only Land owners growing crops and cattle owners tithed to
Levites and Levites tithed to the priests. Poor and workers in
the farms did not tithe
Only once paid Promised to pay only once Levitical and Festival tithes were yearly paid for 6
continuous years and Charity tithes were paid once in 3
Not from possessions but consisted of war spoils only Promised to pay from whatever God would give him Yearly paid Levitical and Festival tithes and Charity
tithes were paid once in 3 years
Abraham wanted to pay tributes to God and return the rest
to the King of Sodom after rescuing his nephew Lot
Hebrew language says Jacob had fear and doubts about God
and to manipulate God he made a conditional vow to tithe!
It was mandatory
Voluntary and tithed to Melchizadek and returned 90% back
to the King of Sodom!
Voluntary but no record of Jacob paying tithes Compulsory and followed levitical, festival and charity
tithing systems
Not commanded to tithe Not commanded to tithe Commanded to tithe
Gave the rest of the 90% to the King of Sodom Did not give the rest to of the 90% to anyone Levites tithed 10% to the Aaronic Priests and kept the
rest of the agricultural products and livestock to
Previous vow Conditional vow Not subject to vow
Only one variety – war spoils Only one type Multiple – at least 3 different tithes specified in the
Melchizedek was the recipient No record about the recipient Levite got the 1st tithe and in turn tithed to the Priests, poor received the tithes and consumed by the owners during festivals
Total – 10% Total – Uncertain Total – 23.3% (10% Levitical, 10% Festival and 3.33 %
Charity – 6 year average 23.3% & if Sabbatical year included
it comes to about 20%)

Old Testament Levites, Early Church Pastors And Modern Day Pastors
Old Testament Levites Early Church Pastors Modern day Pastors
Physical Descendents of Jacob’s 3rd Son Levi One of the five fold minsters Anyone who runs a Church
Got their authority to minister by the commandments given
in the law of Moses
Appointed by Apostles Seminary/Bible college qualification or self-appointments
or being the son of a Pastor qualifies them. Only a few of them have a
genuine calling from God
Were NOT full-time workers Most of them were NOT full-time workers Most of them are full-time workers
Received tithes from the rest of Israel Never received tithes from early Christians but sometimes
accepted free will gifts/offerings
Most of them receive tithes from modern-day Christians in
the form of money
Received tithes from the rest of the tribes to offset their loss of land inheritance Received freewill offerings/gifts for their labor in the Lord Have an entitlement mentality and force believers to give, sometimes with threats
In turn tithed to Priests and the Priests did not tithe to
Never tithed to any central authority or any
denominational head quarters
Usually tithe to denominational headquarters or tithe to
their Pastoral friends
Always functioned as a team Always mentioned in plural and the Apostles came
Mostly single pastor controlled systems and pre-eminence
to his family
Accountable to Aaronic Priests and were not supposed to go
inside the Holy of Holies
Accountable to Apostles and inter-dependant of other
ministerial offices
CEOs of a religious enterprise, sometimes accountable to
their denomination
Only Aaronic priests had special privilege in the
tabernacle and the Levites did not control all the resources
in the religious enterprise
Apostles had greater authority and followed by Prophets.
No single Pastor and his family controlled all resources of a

religious enterprise

Usually a single Pastor controls all the resources of the
religious enterprise and other associate Pastors and Church
workers are employed by the Pastor
Only received money when the Israelites decided to redeem
the tithe by adding 20% of the monetary value
Most of them were in secular jobs and sometimes received
voluntary monetary gifts
Compulsorily collect tithes from the gross money earned
from believers
Posted by: papagiorgio200 | November 7, 2010

7 Laws of Aplologetics

Apologetics 315 h/t:

1. The other guy doesn’t know as much as you think. 2. Everybody has faith. 3. A contradiction can never be true. 4. Never say “I don’t know” twice. 5. Verify everything. 6. Ask others for their reasons. 7. Never get angry

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