This clip came from the sermon Suffering To Learn, part of Mars Hill Church’s Trial series through 1&2 Peter. For more content from this sermon, please visit http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/t…
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A buzz word which has been going around for several years is the word “anointed”, which is generally used with such phrases as, “I felt the anointing”, or “he/she is anointed to preach the word”, and other such terms. Generally when this term is used, it is to imply a “special” anointing being poured out upon certain individuals. We are being told that you too can have this “special anointing” if you will exercise the truths of God’s word in the same manner as those who have received this “special anointing” of God.
First, let’s take a look at the word “anointed” and see if there is a special anointing or not. In the Old Testament, the word anointed means to apply oil on one’s body as a symbol that God has chosen that person for a service unto the Lord. This person has been consecrated unto the Lord. The word consecrated means to be set apart, endowed with the power of God to perform that service. It also means to be pronounced clean, holy and pure. Although mere man is sinful, it is God who consecrates, and that is why it is recorded in Psalms 105:15, “Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm”. These were men who God had anointed and consecrated for His service.
Today we hear many self-appointed prophets using this verse in an effort to exalt themselves as being in a special class of “God’s anointed” and that no one dare question what they teach. This is a very dangerous position to put oneself in, to believe there are those who have a special anointing or an extra measure of the Holy Spirit. The Prophet Joel said, “in those days will I pour out my spirit upon all flesh.” (Joel 2:29) We see that this happened on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:16-18) and has continued up to the present time. God poured out His spirit on all flesh, and all that receive Jesus into their hearts have been baptized with the Holy Ghost and with fire. (Matthew 3:11 and Mark 1:8) Those who have been baptized with Jesus have been born again, meaning filled with the power and the life of the Holy Spirit and have become new creatures.
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For a long time I wished that Ex-Wofers and those have been harmed by the WoF could have a place to do some serious fellowshiping, healing, networking and studying together. Some who come out of the WoF may chose not to attend church regularly or even go to church at all, and we all need fellowship with other believers. So I decided to open such a forum and see if it will be needed and used at this time. I know of two others that have tried to start WoF recovery groups/networks but they did not last very long because niche specific communities can be hard to build up. So I told the Lord that I would open up this forum and commit to it for 6 months and see what happens. So far we have 12 members with about 4-5 posting.
The Word of Faith Recovery Forums is a PRIVATE Recovery/Support minded Forums Board. Because we seek to maintain an environment that is most conducive to healing, restoration and fellowship,, you must meet one of the following criteria to become a member. You must be either,,,
- An Ex-Word of Faither
- Transitioning out of the WoF
- Someone who has been negatively impacted by the WoF
- Someone who is willing to be supportive to the above mentioned
- Or someone who is actively exposing the errors of the Word of Faith Movement
To ensure the best environment possible, posting will be monitored to determine if all new members meet these criteria. Members Privacy is highly respected and will be maintained. So if you would like to join us and you meet one of these criteria,, Please register for an account. We hope you will be blessed during your time here.
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This “testimony” is not a “testimony”, per say, in the sense that Pastor Edward Watson tells how he got into the Word of Faith Movement and how he got out of it. Rather this is a sermon in which Watson does a thorough scriptural refutation of many of the Word of Faith heresies. And he does so very well, with an ex-Wofer’s passion.
The sermon is about an hour and a half long,,, so you will need to schedule time to listen to it, if your going to. But you’ll be hard pressed to find a better sermon on the WoF from an Ex-WoFer or non Ex-WoFer. Watson does a great job.
I cannot embed the MP3 onto this blogpost, so you will have to go here to hear the sermon.
FROM THE ORIGINAL POST
The Word of Faith, is it a Christian movement of God as many Christians would assert, or is it a doctrine of devils cleverly disguised in Christian rhetoric deceiving believers and bringing shame on the gospel of Jesus Christ?
The Word of Faith movement would like you to believe their roots can be traced back to the Asuza St. “revival” at the turn of the century in L.A., if that were true that would be disturbing enough, but is another study. The fact is that the “Word of Faith” movement did not descend from the pentecostal movement. No, instead it will be proven that it was an infiltration into the church that can be traced directly back to Christian Science, theosophy, and luciferianism or satanism. Pastor Ed was in the word of faith movement for years and has born the scars of that demonic movement. He speaks not from hurt or a desire for any type of revenge, but to warn believers out of a motive of love for his fellow brethren in Christ. Open you heart, your Bible, the PDF, and if you are in any way affliated with this movement ask the Lord if there is something wrong with this movement to show you and to lead you out of it, ask with a willing heart to obey, and join us as we expose the grevious error of this movement that moves the hearts of Christians from their Saviour to the false god of mammon. James 5:19,20
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The quotes below from Kenneth Hagins books have made it clear what he has taught concerning the question should we pray “Gods will be done”?
“It is unscriptural to pray, ‘If it is the will of God.’ When you put an ‘if in your prayer, you are praying in doubt,” Kenneth Hagin, Exceedingly Growing Faith, Tulsa: Faith Library, 1983, p. 10.
“Because we didn’t understand what Jesus said, and because we’ve been religiously brainwashed instead of New Testament-taught, we watered down the promises of God and tacked on something that Jesus didn’t say, and added on something else to it: “Well, He will all right if it’s His will, but it might not be His will, ” people have said. And yet, you don’t find that kind of talk in the New Testament,” Kenneth Hagin, How Jesus Obtained His Name, Tulsa: Rhema, cassette tape #44H01.
This teaching is mirrored by other Word of Faith teachers such as Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Fred Price, Jesse Duplantis, Joyce Meyers and others. But the real question we should be asking is “can we find that kind of talk (Thy will be done) in the New Testament”? Here is one of my favorites as it is the best scriptures to counter the WoF false interpretation of Mark 11:23.
1Jn 5:14-15 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.
We see our prayers in proper balance in these verses because the “whatsoever we ask” is regulated by “if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us”. This plainly states that when we do not pray according to the will of God, God does not even hear our prayers and is under no obligation to answer our prayers in opposition to his will and providence.
It is a fact that the Spirit of God will not even make intersession on our behalf unless it be “according to the will of God”.
Rom 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
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She has fallen in with the wrong crowd. Out of the frying pan into the fire. The sad thing is, her parent may not be the worse thing for her… she may be.
Christian convert Rifqa Bary is refusing chemotherapy for cancer because she believes that she was cured at a faith-healing event, according to a motion in Franklin County Juvenile Court.
Rifqa was to undergo a year of chemotherapy after her cancer was surgically removed, the document filed by her parents states. But Rifqa, who is in foster care, was taken to a faith-healing event in Youngstown a couple of weeks ago by Franklin County Children Services, without her parents’ consent, according to the document.
A motion to force treatment is to be considered on Tuesday in Juvenile Court.
Rifqa’s attorneys, meanwhile, are asking the court to make “special findings” so that she can obtain an immigration status that will allow her to stay in the country and obtain medical care. Rifqa, a native of Sri Lanka, does not have legal status in the United States, her attorneys have said in court.
Rifqa ran away from home in July 2009, saying her Muslim father would kill her for converting to Christianity. She lived with evangelical pastors in Florida before returning to Ohio to live in a foster home.
The Barys want to force chemotherapy and are concerned that their daughter could die without treatment, Tarazi wrote….
In case you do not know about her… here is an old video:
An Oregon City couple will face charges of second-degree manslaughter in the faith-healing death of their newborn son, the third such fatality involving the Followers of Christ church in the past two years.
Dale R. Hickman and Shannon M. Hickman, both 25, were booked about 1 a.m. Friday at the Clackamas County Jail. Dale Hickman’s father, Phillip Hickman, posted 10 percent of their $500,000 bail, and they were released about two hours later. They will be formally charged Aug. 30.
Their infant son was born in September, 2009, about six weeks premature. He weighed 3 pounds, 5 ounces and lived nine hours.
No one with medical training attended the birth, and no one called a doctor or ambulance. An autopsy determined the infant died of staph pneumonia and complications from a premature birth, including underdeveloped lungs….
….Members of the Followers of Christ church rely on Research resources on faith healing”>faith-healing rituals – anointing with oil, prayer and the laying on of hands – rather than secular medicine. Church members have testified that they would not go to a doctor or hospital even if it meant the difference between life and death, preferring to put their faith solely in God’s power to heal.
The Hickman and Wyland indictments underscore a pledge by Clackamas County District Attorney John Foote to aggressively prosecute church members who fail to provide necessary medical care to their children, as required under Oregon law.
Foote reached out to church members earlier this year, urging them to seek common ground that would assure that their children receive adequate medical care….
Timothy and Rebecca Wyland pleaded not guilty during a brief appearance before Clackamas County Circuit Judge Robert D. Herndon and were released without bail.
The charges were expected. During a custody hearing last week, a prosecutor disclosed that the Wylands had been indicted by a grand jury.
Child-protection authorities took custody of the couple’s 7-month-old daughter, Alayna, after she developed a growth over her left eye that ballooned over several months to the size of a tennis ball and threatens her vision.
The Wylands did not speak in Thursday’s hearing. Rebecca Wyland previously testified that she anointed Alayna with oil but never considered taking her daughter to a doctor.
Alayna is in temporary custody of the Oregon Department of Human Services and lives in a foster home while medical professionals treat her condition and develop a care plan. The child welfare agency placed the girl in protective custody June 30 after receiving an anonymous tip that she was in peril.
There is possibly some demonic activity she shows that may indicate where this dream came from. I do have to say however, that being part of an affair that broke up a marriage is probably worse than what you see here. I would not want to be them meeting their Creator… not only for this, but for the more important aspect Jesus spoke to:
“And He [Jesus] answered and said, ‘Have you not read, that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female and said, ‘For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and the two shall become one flesh’? Consequently they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate.” (Mathew 19:4-6)
Besides Jesus confirming creation and rejecting evolutionary thinking, He also affirms the first and foremost purpose of man and woman… adding that no one should come between them.
(First posted on Video Row):
Televangelist Benny Hinn, who resides behind gates in Dana Point and has a church and television studio in Aliso Viejo, and Without Walls International Church pastor Paula White of Florida have posted statements on their websites denying a report that they are romantically involved (OC Weekly).
…White was a self-proclaimed “messed-up Mississippi girl” growing up in Tupelo. Her father committed suicide when she was 5, and White’s website says she suffered “sexual and physical abuse” up until she was 13. White says her life changed when at 18 she received a “divine visitation.”
By 1991, she and then-husband Randy White were founding their own mega-church in Tampa.
The couple announced their divorce in 2007, after the church came under fire to failing to repay $170,000 borrowed from an elderly widow. The money, originally borrowed in 1995, was used as down payment on a house.
Randy stayed on with the ministry, now called Without Walls International Church.
Last year, however, Paula returned to that church’s pulpit, replacing Randy, who resigned citing ill health. At her first sermon, White told the congregants: “Mama is back.”…
The question is this, while the National Enquirer often gets it wrong [they were correct, however, in regards to Jesse Jackson’s and John Edward’s affair], when pics like this hit the “press,” it is hard to deny:
Joni Eareckson Tada gave a discourse at Dallas Theological Seminary on disabilities and God. She talks of Christian compassion and refutes the Word of Faith vipers.
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The fastest growing segment of professing Christianity in recent years has been among churches connected with the Positive Confession movement or Word-Faith movement (all part of the modern Charismatic movement). It has involved two distinct but closely related factions: the Norman Vincent Peale/Robert Schuller Positive-Possibility thinkers/Positive Mental Attitude, with their roots in New Thought; and the Kenneth Hagin/Kenneth Copeland Positive Confession and Word-Faith groups, which have their roots in E.W. Kenyon, William Branham, and the Manifest Sons of God/Latter Rain movement. Well-known names among its leaders are E.W. Kenyon, Charles Capps, Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, Frederick K.C. Price, Robert Tilton, and David [Paul] Yonggi Cho. It does not yet constitute a new denomination, but it certainly represents innovative teachings outside of mainstream Christianity. The situation is so serious now because of the dominance over the so-called Christian media achieved by the teachers of Positive/Possibility Thinking and Positive Confession.
D.R. McConnell points out that “any new religious movement [within Protestantism] must bear the scrutiny of two criteria: biblical fidelity and historical orthodoxy.” Regrettably, the Positive Confession movement fails on both counts. The historical roots of this movement (which Charles Farah has called “Faith Formula Theology”) lie in the occult, and most recently, in New Thought and its off-shoot, the Mind Science cults. Its Biblical basis is found only in the peculiar interpretations of its own leaders, not in generally accepted Christian theology.
As the name “Positive Confession”/”Word-Faith” implies, this movement teaches that faith is a matter of what we say more than whom we trust or what truths we embrace and affirm in our hearts. The term “positive confession” refers to the teaching that words have creative power. What you say, Word-Faith teachers claim, determines everything that happens to you. Your “confessions,” that is, the things you say — especially the favors you demand of God — must all be stated positively and without wavering. Then God is required to answer. Word-Faith believers view their positive confessions as an incantation by which they can conjure up anything they desire: “Believe it in your heart; say it with your mouth. That is the principle of faith. You can have what you say” (Charismatic Chaos, pp. 281, 285).
This is at the heart of the Positive Confession movement today, also known as the “name-it-and-claim-it” gospel. The Positive Confession movement is nothing but a charismatic form of Christian Science. This can be substantiated by simply comparing the similarities in their common beliefs. Positive Confession is basically warmed-over New Thought dressed in evangelical/charismatic language. Positive Confession’s basic beliefs can be summarized as follows:
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My wife Pat and I left the Defiance Ohio area and moved to Bellefontaine to start and build a church. That was six years ago, and now looking back I see that the whole time we were trying to build a church God was tearing us down. He was bringing us back to our foundational roots we didn’t even realize we had left. During the four years we pastured, a lot of the old convictions God had instilled in me as a young Christian, convictions I had let go, were resurfacing. This became a serious problem in our ministry as we were heavily influenced by Word of Faith ideology. Conflict began to rise up with our Ministry coverings. We were ordained by CMI (Calvary Ministries International) and Restoration Ministries. Frustration built within Pat and I over the lack of any real relational support and a constant pressure of supporting our coverings financially. To them we were indigenous, that is, on your own. Ultimately, we left both Ministries and became independent. Biblical conviction overruled, and we were left with some hard decisions. And almost immediately after withdrawing from the last covering God saw fit to place hard circumstances in our path that lead us to the decision to close the church.
Greg Koukl of Stand to Reason answers the question, “What is faith?” For more visit http://www.str.org.
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Since the most basic heresy of the Word of Faith Movement is it’s redefinition of Faith, the topic that had arisen the most on our comments page is that of the question “What is Faith” and much of that has to do with the WoF sacred cow Mark 11:22-24. It is very important to clearly understand the biblical definition of faith. A right definition and false definition of faith is the dividing line between biblical Christianity and occultism wrapped in Christian terms.
I gathered a few articles that deals with this subject for visitors on our comments page. I thought I would gather all or most of the post on this blog that deal specifically with this subject and make a resource type post listing these resources.
Here Jesse Duplantis teaches the WoF false defintion of faith by making the case that since “death and life” are in the power of the tongue he then concludes that we, not God, decide when to live or die.
Here is Joyce Meyers teaching this false definition of faith.
Greg Koukl of Stand to Reason answers the question, “What is faith?” For more visit http://www.str.org.
Pastor James Blocker Maranatha Tabernacle Queens, NY discuss how the Word of Faith teachers misdefine faith; and compares their teachings to the Word of God.
Here is the first sermon groupblog author PapaG preached.
This is a list of commentary references on Mark 11:22-24 from PapaG
This is from Norman Geisler and Ron Rhodes
And I really like these articles
Abracadabra, Presto and SHAZAAM,, YOUR HEALED of your Word of Faith Delusion,,, because I SAY SO By Damon Whitsell
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My Testimony By Danny H. from FREEDOM FROM WOLVES
I was raised in a traditional Assemblies of God (Pentecostal) Church. I can remember going to tent meetings, like the ones on the Marjoe Documentary. (I wish I’d seen it sooner! But it wasn’t shown in the South when it was first aired.)
Before I go any further, I’d like to state that I hold no grudges or anger against any of my former churches, pastors, etc. Though I now realize I was in cultic churches, I know God has a way of working all of that mess out for good. (Rom. 8:28) Though I am no longer Pentecostal, I still have many Pentecostal friends and consider them to be brothers and sisters in Christ. I’m not anti-Pentecostal/Charismatic; I’m against the Word of Faith message.
Back to my story. I turned away from God around the age of 12. Fortunately, I returned to church at the age of 16. From about 16-20 was an exciting time in my life. I was a part of an active youth group. It was at this time that I was brought deeper into the Word of Faith message. It was slowly creeping into my A/G church and youth group. I bought my first Kenneth Hagin book and read it many times. My Youth Pastor taught the message and even stood before the entire congregation and claimed his healing from diabetes. To make a long story short, he was not healed and suffered great embarrassment.
As time passed, the church began to shift into the Prophetic Movement in the mid-1980’s. It was also in the mid-80’s that I began to question my Pentecostal beliefs for the first time. I read a book by Charles Ryrie called, Balancing the Christian Life. After reading the book, I left the Pentecostal Movement. Dr. Ryrie said, “Nowhere in the bible does it say that we are commanded to seek the baptism in the Spirit, nor does it say we should seek it.” (I’m paraphrasing.) I was told all my life that all Christians are commanded to seek the baptism. After digging and digging, I came to the conclusion that the Pentecostal message was wrong.
So, I left the Pentecostal church out of conviction, but could not find a good bible church in my area. The highlight of those years was when I met Christian author Bruce Barron, author of The Health and Wealth Gospel. I’m still acquainted with him today. His book helped cement my concerns about gross error in the church.
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Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Matthew 7:15-20
For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified. Acts 20:29-32
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 1 Timothy 4:1
Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, colossians 2:18
Charles Haddon Spurgeon (1834-92) was England’s best-known preacher for most of the second half of the nineteenth century. In 1854, just four years after his conversion, Spurgeon, then only 20, became pastor of London’s famed New Park Street Church (formerly pastored by the famous Baptist theologian John Gill). The congregation quickly outgrew their building, moved to Exeter Hall, then to Surrey Music Hall. In these venues Spurgeon frequently preached to audiences numbering more than 10,000—all in the days before electronic amplification. In 1861 the congregation moved permanently to the newly constructed Metropolitan Tabernacle.
This Video is part of groupblog author Pastor Jeff Klutts’s video and article series titled “Wolves in Wool”. I think this video is probably the best resource on the subject of “What is Faith” from this blog. Jeff not only exegetes the meaning of faith from several biblical passages, he also deals with about a dozen or so quotes from Word of Faith teachers on the subject of faith.
I cannot say enough about the quality of teaching that Jeff has shared with this blog and it’s visitors. You will be extremely blessed if you visit Jeffs RETURNINGKING.COM.
Jeff has turned two of his teaching series into books. The Returning King and Spirit World. And since the books are essentially his article series, both books are available for FREE READING. And he is now finishing up the book Wolves in Wool which comes from his article and video series that is on this blog. Jeff is currently doing two new video series called “The Gospel Truth” and “Interpreting the Bible“. He also has a couple of other completed video teaching series.
Which is essentially an online TV channel for services at the church Jeff pastors, First Baptist Church Needville TX, USA – www.fbcneedville.org
As you can see there are many reasons to visit and bookmark Jeff’s blog RETURNINGKING.COM.
I have really enjoyed brother Jeffs teachings. I hope you do also. Jeff really does a good job on the subject of Faith in the following video.
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“They’.. label the ‘Word of faith’ as a ‘movement’…but the Gospel is the Word of Faith..according to the Apostle Paul”
This is part of a comment I received at YouTube. You can see the larger quote and my article and video response to this claim here.
We must be careful when we read. This statement is evidence of this. It would be totally correct to say “The Word of Faith is the Gospel”. But to say “the Gospel is the Word of Faith” is rank heresy and a total inversion and perversion of what Scripture teaches.
This video clearly portrays the Gospel. ALL OF THE GOSPEL. (ie. the “Full Gospel”).
Q&A with Alan Cairns are brief, straightforward, Bible-based, video answers presented in a conversational format that deal with a broad range of difficult questions that face Christians today
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When talk show host Oprah Winfrey so much as spits on a book it immediately catches fire. The ashes can so much as sell for a lump sum that can earn you enough money for an early retirement. In 2006 an Australian Rhonda Byrne got much more than she bargained for when she wrote the New Age self help book, The Secret. Her book did not get spat on. No. The book got featured not once but twice on the Oprah Winfrey show and (wait for this) by the Spring of 2007 the book had sold almost 4 million copies, and the DVD had sold more than 2 million copies. Byrne was listed among Time Magazine’s list of 100 people who shaped the world in 2007.
Byrne writes, “Disease cannot live in a body that is in a healthy emotional state.” But be warned: “If you have a disease and you are focusing on it and talking to people about it, you are going to create more disease cells.” The tenet of the book is that an individual’s focused positive thinking can result in life-changing results such as increased wealth, health, happiness and more.
Wait a minute that sounds so much like Word of Faith you say. Isn’t that what modern day evangelicals are doing these days? The health, wealth and prosperity gospel is synonymous with the Word of Faith theology which is perhaps the fastest brand of Christianity with about 147 million followers in Africa (according to Christianity Today magazine). They make up more than a fourth of Nigeria’s population, more than a third of South Africa’s, and a whopping 56 percent of Kenya’s.
“One of the greatest distinguishing marks of a false prophet is that he will always tell you what you want to hear, he will never rain on your parade, he will get you clapping, he will get you jumping, he will make you dizzy, he will keep you entertained, & he will present a Christianity to you that will make your church look like a Six Flags over Jesus.” -Paul Washer
Through faith and positive confession, so goes the ideology, we can obtain anything we want — health, wealth, success, or whatever we please. The formula is simply: “Say it, Do it, Receive it, and Tell it.” Rhonda on the other hand explains that this New Age technique is the law of attraction, which is the principle that “like attracts like.” Rhonda calls it “the most powerful law in the universe.” The principle is that we create our own circumstances by the choices we make in life. And the choices we make are fuelled by our thoughts—which means our thoughts are the most powerful things we have here on earth.
Word of faith allegations are heretical and differ from Biblical orthodoxy. God wants you to be rich is the mantra. “He [also] wants His children to eat the best, He wants them to wear the best clothing, He wants them to drive the best cars, and He wants them to have the best of everything.” ”That’s the reason why I drive a Rolls Royce,” boasts a mega church pastor.
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THE LIST IS GROWING!!! There are two new websites from Ex-Word of Faith Movement followers. We have added them to our blogroll and would like to feature them to the readers of this blog.
Danny is currently writing his testimony to be posted on his blog and our Testimony Page
2. ITCHING EARS
Kevin has a website on Freewebs. You can already view Kevin’s Testimony here on this blogs Testimony Page.
Please give these guys a visit and a shoutout to let them know they are appreciated for sharing their experiences in the WoF movement with us.
May God richly bless you, Danny and Kevin
There is a new youtube channel and blog ministry called saffron planet. They did a really good video interview of Justin Peters It is supposed to be a 10 part series but they loaded up four videos in a few weeks and have not posted any more since. I really, really liked this interview,, it is good to get to see Justin as he speaks and interacts with the interviewers.If they add more video for this series, I will make another post.
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I have been participating in debates over at the CARM Mormon (LDS) Forum. This is a study done by THEO. Although this study is addressed to Mormons, it also addresses the way WoFers take Philippians 2:5-6 and other verses out of context to try to say that they are also Gods. At least Mormons only believe they are “gods in embryo”. This study does an excellent job of showing how Philippians 2:5-6 does not support the ideas of plural Gods/gods. Damon
I think it goes without saying that Mormons can’t do exegesis. They “proof-text” their way around the Bible, using maybe (at best) one or two verse from any given book of the Bible, without any regard to their contextual meaning. This may be partly due to deception on their part, but I believe it is largely due to the fact that they have no experience with exegesis. They have a “lay ministry”, so their leaders (eg. stake presidents) aren’t taught how to do it, and their top leaders (eg. Monson, Packer) don’t do it by example, to show them how it’s done. (I would actually be interested in the perceptions of ex-Mormons about when and how they eventually learned to exegete texts of Scripture.
What is fascinating is that most people understand how to read written texts, such as books, letters, newspaper articles, blogs, discussion forum posts, and so on. But it seems to me that “Scripture” has a particular “stigma” to it, that one thinks that it’s an exception to the rule of starting from the beginning, and following a thought or line of argument from start to finish. Of course, this concept may be enabled due to the ideas of some who think God is “speaking to them” if they open up a Bible to a random page, and blindly point their finger to a particular verse. It is also “encouraged” by those who use Scripture citations as supporting their doctrines, when those reading the citations might not realize that the meaning of a particular verse is contingent on understanding the verse in its overall passage.
Fortunately, it is frequently necessary only to know the teachings of the Bible, and the methods of proper exegesis, to be able to demonstrate the inappropriate use of “proof-texts” by Mormons. Case in point:
A Favourite “Proof-Text”
Mormons often use Phil. 2:5-6 to try to support the Mormon blasphemy of “exaltation”:
Philippians 2:5: Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Philippians 2:6: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
The attempted proclamation is clear:
1) Christ thought it “not robbery” (ie. justified) to be equal with God;
2) We are to have the “like mind” of Christ;
3) Therefore we should think we can/should be equal with God;
But when we need to address this “proof-text” argument, we need to consider a number of pertinent points:
I have been participating in debates over at the CARM Mormon (LDS) Forum. This is a study done by THEO. Although this study is addressed to Mormons, it also addresses the way WoFers take 1 Cor. 8:5 and other verses out of context to try to say that they are also Gods. At least Mormons only believe they are “gods in embryo”. This study does an excellent job of showing how 1 Cor. 8:5 does not support the ideas of plural Gods/gods. Damon
A common “proof-text” Mormons use to try to prove their polytheism, or “plural gods” doctrine, is that of 1 Cor. 8:5:
1 Cor. 8:5 … there be gods many, and lords many …
But as we saw in the Phil. 2:5-6 thread, we will also see here that Mormons simply ignore the contextual content of the passage in trying to misrepresent Scripture to try to make it conform to their false doctrines. In fact, I would assert that one only needs to read the entire chapter, beginning at verse 1, to see the fallacious nature of the Mormon argument.
We will look at the following:
1) The overall theme of 1 Cor. 8;
2) The nature of the “gods many” according to verse 5;
3) The contrasting teaching Paul gives in light of “gods many and lords many”;
4) The overall teaching of monotheism in the Bible
5) A comparison with the Jewish Sh’ma, Deut. 6:4
The Theme of 1 Cor. 8
I Cor 8:1: Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.
I Cor 8:2: And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.
I Cor 8:3: But if any man love God, the same is known of him.
I Cor 8:4: As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.
I Cor 8:5: For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
I Cor 8:6: But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
I Cor 8:7: Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.
I Cor 8:8: But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.
I Cor 8:9: But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.
I Cor 8:10: For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol’s temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;
I Cor 8:11: And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?
I think it is fair to say that when something (“idols”) is mentioned seven times in one chapter, it is a candidate for being the main “theme” of the passage. Paul is clearly speaking of idols, and in particular whether it is okay to eat meat which has been sacrificed to idols. In effect, the question is whether such meat has “idol-cooties”, or whether it makes you associated with the idols the meat came from. That is the context of “gods many and lords many”, the existence of a world full of “idols”, false gods.
So the mere mention of “there be gods many” in a passage speak of idols hardly is supporting evidence for polytheism, or “plural gods”, the existence of multiple true gods.
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You must hear this song and share it with friends and church leaders. The worldly values of American materialism and greed are behind the prosperity doctrines of demons!
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I seen this song a long time ago and thought it was on this blog,,, but I was wrong. So here it is. It is a good one.
FROM THE VIDEO DESCRIPTION:
You MUST hear this song! A powerful song and teaching that gives you a serious warning concerning false teachers and their ungodly dangerous doctrines. You should listen to holy men of God who preach the truth from a sincere heart.THIS SONG IS FROM THE CD “CONSIDER THE COST” BY STEVE CAMP.I CONSIDER IT ONE OF HIS BEST.
The following book is a very good book to read on the subject it is called “The Agony of Deceit” by Michael Horton. The song is based on this book and 2 Peter 2. You can order this book on Amazon.com or ebay.
If you are a serious Christian and want to know the truth about this Movement consider buying these books.
You can find these books on amazon.com
1. “A Different Gospel” by D.R. McConnell
2. “The New Charismatics” by Michael Moriarty
3. “Christianity in Crisis” by Hank Hanegraaff
4. “The Seduction of Christianity” by Dave Hunt
5.” The Word-Faith Controversy” by Robert Bowman
6. “The Born Again Jesus of the Word-Faith Teaching” by Judith Matta
7. “The Strange World of Benny Hinn”
8. The Disease of the Wealth and Health Gospel” Gorden Fee (A renown godly Pentecostal Bible scholar).
If fact there is no church historian or Bible Scholar that would agree with these false teachings. I know this movement well. I graduated from Rhema Bible Training Center in 1979 and spent 12 long years as a part of this movement. I preached in many WOF Churches. I was a devout reader of E.W. Kenyon. I read one of his books over 40 times! I met and heard many of the key figures of this movement in the ’70s and 80s. So I’m not a novice on the subject. God by His grace set me free from these false doctrines in 1988. At the time I was a pastor of a growing church. I recanted before my congregation. The Bible became like a new book to me, so precious, pure and powerful. Since then I’ve been on the narrow road that leads to life. I now preach the Gospel as according to Jesus and the Apostles as inspired by the Holy Spirit. Finally, let it be said that not all pentecostals agree with the Word of Faith Movement. God bless you.
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Even though I have been negatively affected by other Cults and false teachings, since before I knew what a Cult and False teaching was, I am going to use MY WORDS TO HEAL those deluded by the WoF movement. Because the WoF teaching that faith is a force is not only a false teaching, But also A VERY DANGEROUS and sometimes deadly OCCULTIC PARADIGM SHIFT.
So I have decided (willed) to USE THE POWER OF MY WORDS to heal you. I will be constantly Chanting YOUR HEALED,YOUR HEALED, YOUR HEALED. So don’t make any negative confessions, least Thee over power my positive confessions, JUST RECEIVE AND BE HEALED.
And certainly God could have created everything,,, without a single word, because He IS GOD. THE Creator.
Man has never created anything Ex-nihilo (out of nothing), much less with mere words. Although words can uplift, encourage and build self esteem, and our words can insult, degrade and devalue a person. Words have never actually killed anyone. It is impossible to die from saying “I am laughing myself to death”
Have you ever noticed that ALL BRIDGES ARE SLIPPERY WHEN WET? Even if they don’t have a warning sign saying so. OR SOMEBODY SAID SO. Have you ever noticed that in contradiction against the obvious implications of the Word of Faith teaching,,, speaking impaired people get sick and have problems that RESULT FROM THEIR ACTIONS,,,,, not lack of words?
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John Edwards is the owner of the blog http://junkerjorge1.blogspot.com/, which is now also found on Johns http://faithpreacher.com domain. John is an Ex-Word of Faith Pastor who is now a reformed Calvinist and blogs about his 14 years of WoF experince, both living it and teaching it. I highly recommend reading Johns blog, especially if your trying to find your way out of the WoF.
This post is about Johns first Blog that was imported to this blog when it first started, about 150 post or so. I think Johns earlier writings are his best, most transparent and open when sharing. I really urge you to take the time to read some of the post from Johns first blog here. These post ARE NOT available anywhere else on the internet as John deleted that blog after me and him founded this groupblog.
When these post where imported to this blog the tags and categories did not transfer correctly. So these post did not get picked up by the search engines like they should so they have gotten only a small amount of hits here. That means that not many people have seen these post in quite sometimes, including John.
So I hope some of you will take the time to read these post from the original FAITHPREACHER Blog. Although John is not a groupblog author here anymore, he was vital in the founding of this blog, we remain friends and (again) I highly recommend reading these first post from John. The first couple of dozen post are found on his new blog, but well over 100 are exclusive to this blog.
Here is the link, I hope you enjoy
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This post is a portion of an Assemblies of God Position Paper called The Believer and Positive Confession. In the Position Paper, the second largest pentecostal denomination formally declares it’s doctrinal stance and responds to the extremes in the Word of Faith Movement. Therefore the whole Position Paper is well worth reading.
Believers Should Recognize They Can Expect Suffering in This Life.
The positive confession teaching advocates reigning as kings in this life. It teaches that believers are to dominate and not be dominated by circumstances. Poverty and sickness are usually mentioned among the circumstances over which believers are to have dominion.
If believers choose the kings of this world as models, it is true they will seek the trouble-free life (although even kings of this world are not free from problems). They will be more concerned with physical and material prosperity than with spiritual growth.
When believers choose the King of kings as their model, however, their desires will be completely different. They will be transformed by His teaching and example. They will recognize the truth of Romans 8:17 which is written concerning joint-heirs with Christ: “If so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.” Paul even went so far as to glory in his infirmities instead of denying them (2 Corinthians 12:5-10).
Though Christ was rich, for our sakes He became poor (2 Corinthians 8:9). He could say, “The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head” (Matthew 8:20).
While God in His providence has endowed some with the ability to accumulate greater wealth than others, something is tragically lacking if there is not a willingness to do the will of God and surrender all, if need be, including creature comforts.
Jesus never ceased to be God, and through the power of the Holy Spirit performed many miracles; yet He was not free from suffering. He knew He must suffer many things of the elders (Matthew 16:21; 17:12). He desired to eat the Passover with the disciples before He suffered (Luke 22:15). After His death, the disciples recognized that Christ’s suffering was a fulfillment of prophecy (Luke 24:25, 26, 32).
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At Lakewood Church, Joel Osteen proclaims,”It’s God’s will for you to live in prosperity instead of poverty.” The pastor of the Houston megachurch and wife Victoria certainly practice what they preach.
The couple has moved to a $10.5 million mansion in River Oaks, while keeping their former Tanglewood residence, valued at $2.9 million.
They are, however, selling a vacant lot next to their former home. Asking price for the half-acre property at the corner of Doliver and Sherbrooke: $1.1 million. Martha Turner Properties has the listing.
The lot is marked by an ivy-covered wall that adjoins the 5,600-square-foot, four bedroom home. When the land is sold, the property will be divided.
In a sign that the Houston real estate market remains soft at the high end, the Tanglewood lot was first offered for sale at an asking price of $1.4 million last August. The price was dropped to $1.299 million in December and to $1.1 million last month.
Several months ago, the couple and their children moved to a 17,000-square-foot stone mansion in the Tall Timbers subdivision in River Oaks. The Osteens’ new home is situated on 1.86 acres and surrounded by an ornamental fence. The 411: It has six bedrooms, six bathrooms, three elevators and five wood-burning fireplaces, with a one-bedroom guest house and pool house. The Harris County Appraisal District valued it at $10.5 million.
The Word of Faith movement emerged within Charismatic/Pentecostal Christianity in the latter 20th century. The Word of Faith movement as a whole has no formal organization or authoritarian hierarchy, though the movement does have a number of high-profile teachers who heavily influence Word of Faith theology. It’s basic theology is a peculiar mix of orthodox Christianity and mysticism.
Kenneth Hagin (who I believe is no longer living) is often referred to as the “father” of the Word of Faith movement, but in reality it was Phineas Parkhurst Quimby (1802-1866) who laid the foundations. It was Quimby’s metaphysical teachings that influenced E.W. Kenyon, and it was E.W. Kenyon’s teachings that in turn influenced Kenneth Hagin. Most prominent Word of Faith teachers today draw their inspiration from Kenneth Hagin.
The “force” of faith, an unbiblical view of faith, is the foundation of Word of Faith theology. Proponents believe they can use words to manipulate the faith-force, and thus actually create what they believe Scripture promises (health, wealth, etc.). Laws supposedly governing the faith-force are said to operate independently of God’s sovereign will — God Himself being subject to the “laws” of faith.
The Assemblies of God is the second largest Pentecostal group in the United States and the largest Pentecostal organization in the world. In the United States the Church of God In Christ is the largest Pentecostal group. The Assemblies of God would official reject “Word of Faith” teaching but many of it’s churches do network with Word of Faith teachers.
For a compresensive look at what the Assemblies of God believes I suggest you visit their website at http://www.ag.org and brouse through the beliefs section. There are many articles there that you should find interesting. Especially their “position paper” section which sets forth their difference with some of the newer “Charastimatic” groups including the Word of Faith. (the Position paper is linked HERE for your convenience)
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Special treatment is given to those who have deep pockets and we see evidence of this in some “money hungry” churches as some critics like to call them. The prosperity gospel is often preached when leaders of the church claim that God told them to buy property and build something that glorifies him. However, there is a fine line between hearing from God and hearing from self. Some ministers allow their minds and hearts to confuse the two. Sometimes God has told them to construct a building or create an additional program, but they may have the timing all wrong. The there are those times that God didn’t tell them to do anything but be still; however, selfish reasons, a demanding church board, or simply greed can spoil a good pastor if he isn’t too careful. So what exactly do some churches do to pressure believers to reach deeper in their pockets until it hurts?
Often make comments, preach or teach about giving. Some will do this to the point that it turns visitors off. Many already know about giving, but haven’t felt the need to give to the church because they aren’t completely convinced that they want to make it their church home. Just as one will have to get to know a person before they walk down the aisle and marry their mate, visitors have to know whether or not they want to walk down the aisle and commit to the church. It may only take months are many years before they hand over something as near and dear to them as their money.
Church leaders orchestrate specific plans to get you to give more. What many people who know nothing about what goes on behind the scenes of the Sunday program don’t know is that there is usually a group of people who meet about more than just what the choir will sing and what the pastor will preach about, but they specifically choose certain music and biblical teachings to get you to give more. If the church needs a new roof, the leadership may find scriptures related to giving, building, and assistance. He or she may also use life examples that will make you say to yourself, “I remember feeling the same stress when I had to buy a roof for my house, I think I will give.” The pastor may have trouble trying to get a program started or an old building resurrected so he may be told by the church board to come up with something to get members to give more. The bottom line is the priority is to get you to give, but if you get something out of what has been taught to you then that is just icing on the cake.
There are certain songs, corporate fasts, and revivals that are generated to evoke the emotions of those who attend the church. If you are made to feel guilty, sad, elated, or encouraged, you may be more likely to feel obligated to give to get something in return. That is why the prosperity gospel is so popular because ignorant visitors who don’t read the Bible will assume that al they have to do is give God some cash and everything will be alright because his messenger said so.
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Law of Attraction or Divine ATM?
Would you believe me if I told you that right now there are people in this world who are constructing make-believe World War II airstrips and via elaborate rituals seek to entice the dropping of cargo – such as was the norm during that war when American GIs were supplied via airdropped cargo shipments on remote islands and outposts while the fighting was raging?
In a day and age of the Internet, television, and even just plain radio technology this seems to be an entirely fictitious notion, but not so! There is indeed on the island of Tanna (located in the South Pacific) a still operating cargo cult which reveres a mythical deity known as John Frum (a term anthropologists believe to stem from the way GIs may have introduced themselves to the villagers’ ancestors, i.e. “Hi, I’m John from America”). The BBC reported in February of 2007 about the parades the island’s young men hold, many of which carry wooden weapons painted with the letters USA.
The goal of the parades and worship is the wished for and much anticipated return of the mythical John Frum who is said to then bring them abundant wealth and also happiness.
Understanding the Prosperity Gospel
The prosperity gospel – also known as prosperity theology, the law of prosperity, and “the secret” – is a belief system that is common within certain Christian charismatic congregations but also heavily favored in the new thought movement.
Luring people to Christ to get rich is both deceitful and deadly. It’s deceitful because when Jesus himself called us, he said things like: “Any one of you who does not renounce all that he has cannot be my disciple” (Luke 14:33). And it’s deadly because the desire to be rich plunges “people into ruin and destruction” (1 Timothy 6:9). So here is my plea to preachers of the gospel.
1. Don’t develop a philosophy of ministry that makes it harder for people to get into heaven.
Jesus said, “How difficult it will be for those who have wealth to enter the kingdom of God!” His disciples were astonished, as many in the “prosperity” movement should be. So Jesus went on to raise their astonishment even higher by saying, “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.” They respond in disbelief: “Then who can be saved?” Jesus says, “With man it is impossible, but not with God. For all things are possible with God” (Mark 10:23-27).
My question for prosperity preachers is: Why would you want to develop a ministry focus that makes it harder for people to enter heaven?
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Exposed!—Benny Hinn, Paul and Jan Crouch, Steve Brock, Steve Hill, John Avanzini, Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin, Rodney Howard-Browne, and a host of other famous-name “Christian” televangelists and charismatic leaders. You’ll be shocked, stupefied, appalled, disgusted, and saddened all in one as you watch the outrageous antics of well-known Christian celebrities and their untold thousands of gullible followers.
You’ll shake your head in dismay as you see men barking like dogs and being led around on leashes; women howling like wolves and braying like donkeys; and profanity shouted from the pulpit. You’ll recoil in astonishment to discover supposed Christian leaders scoffing at Bible doctrine; a televangelist and his associates sharing an opium smoking pipe; possessed people slithering like serpents at crusades; and thousands of worshippers blasphemously speaking in false tongues and breaking out in roaring, hysterical laughter…
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And it Leads to Destruction
Before I begin, I want to explain where I am coming from. I am a pursuer of a Christ-like life, and believe Jesus is the true Son of God who died to pay the punishment for my (and everyone else’s) sins. I do not hate Joel Osteen, or believe he is the devil (which I’ve heard). I think it’s childish to draw little red horns on top of his photograph (which I’ve seen). I do not think he is doing what he is doing to get rich or become famous. I believe he thinks he is helping people, which is fine but to label what he teaches as “Christianity” is pure blasphemy. I have watched many of his sermons, interviews, but have not read his book (though I’ve read summaries). I do not have a problem with him not attending seminary, though I think it would have been better for him after how he warps the Bible. I am praying for the day when Mr. Osteen realizes what he preaches is not the complete Christian gospel, and shares that truth with his audience because, hey, he has the biggest church in America.
(Throughout the article I will not write out any Bible verses, but refer to them by book, chapter and verse. The point of this is to get people to open a Bible before trying to argue their points.)
Basically, Joel Osteen preaches what some have dubbed the, “prosperity gospel.” It basically emphasizes that if you follow God good things will happen to you, such as being successful Financially and career-wise. Osteen once preached, “because of the price He (Jesus) paid, we have a right to total victoryâ€¦not partial victory, to where we have a good family, we have good health, but we constantly struggle in our finances. That’s not total victory.” Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Jesus died so we can have a family, be healthy, and financially stable! On the contrary, Jesus’ death was so that we, sinners, may have life after the one in this world ends! We should not live this life for our own desires and securities, but in complete and utter sacrifice to God that puts our health and finances, things of ourselves, in danger! (2 Corinthians 5:14-15) Many people in this country want to learn about a God that only hopes we are happy, they don’t want to hear the God that condemns (the God Jesus talked about!). The way Joel Osteen describes God sounds more like he is talking about Santa Claus, think happy thoughts, be good, and he’ll reward you with worldly things. (1 John 2:15) Another Osteen sermon quote: “It’s God’s will for you to live in prosperity instead of poverty. It’s God’s will for you to pay your bills and not be in debt. It’s God’s will for you to live in health and not in sickness all the days of your life.” Where does it say this in the Christian Bible? (Revelation 3:17) Paul, the post-Christ world’s first great evangelist lived in poverty and with some type of physical ailment. He, as well as many other disciples of Jesus, sacrificed their lives in hope that the TRUE gospel of Jesus Christ may be heard! They endured physical abuse, stoning, and poverty. Look at the way Jesus himself lived! Nothing Osteen teaches about the life God has for us matches up with ANYTHING of how our Savior lived!
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- Benny Hinn
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