Hat/Tip to FREEDOMFROMWOLVES — This Lutheran Pastor reviews Joel Osteen’s latest book which one Amazon review says is almost an exact duplicate of an earlier sermon series by Joel but put to words in this book. CLICK LINK BELOW TO LISTEN.

http://issuesetc.org/2012/10/19/2-a-review-of-joel-osteens-new-book-i-declare-pr-jeremy-rhode-101912

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | March 5, 2013

“The Language of Faith” by Son of Cary Blog

The author of this post, from The Son of Cary Blog, is a missionary in Africa. As I commented there on his Blog “It must be excruciating to watch the effect of the WoF there upon so many that are already so impoverished and chasing after occultic pipe dreams. That damn devil sure is slick”. I also commented that “I wish you would have thought to say this to the man. If Abraham started acting like a Father, he sure had a funny way of showing it. After all he and Sarah did indeed lack faith to a point. Didn’t Abraham at Sarah’s insistence go onto impregnate Hagar and God said because of that lack of faith that Ishmael and his descendants hands would always be against others. I like how you can see that this Positive Confession teaching actually has the opposite desired effect and is indeed trapping people into poverty. After all if you just “speak to your wallet” as Marylin Hickey has advised, it won’t get very full unless your actually work to fill it.”

launguage of faith (dead)“The Language of Faith”

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Recently, after my wife commented that our little church really didn’t have money yet to build our church building she was puzzled when the man responded to her that the church actually did have the money. He argued very simply that any potential we have is also a reality that we possess.

When I piped up that this use of language turns subjects into predicates, I was told, “That is the language of faith.”

Really? Having faith, firmly believing, Sola Fide—these terms refer to positively speaking about what we hope might happen?

As the conversation progressed (or digressed depending on your point of view), I asked for some substantiation that allows us to blur the line between reality and mere possibility. This brother replied, “Abraham. He believed God, and started acting like a father before he was a father.”

“Wait a minute,” I shot back, “Abraham believed God’s revelation. He was clearly told that he would have a son. That was the object of his faith.”

The conversation ended amiably, but not logically, because these fellow Christians were wrapped up in at least one of the tentacles of the Word Faith, prosperity gospel foolishness. That brief interaction had all the marks of positive confession—make sure that whatever you say is always upbeat and positive because your words create reality.

Hank Hanegraaff has documented the links between Christianized positive confession and its New Age sire, and the connection is not hard to find. New Age teaching emphasizes invisible, extra-logical life forces that can be accessed by words—positive statements bring goodness, health, and joy whereas negative statements bring ugliness, pain, and sorrow.

Of course, as with most false teachings, this one tries to limp along with a superficial appeal to a verse or two. “Death and life are in the power of the tongue.” (Pro. 18:21) Solomon is simply teaching that words can help aid spiritual beings to glorify God or they can tempt spiritual beings to sin. He is not saying that verbal units by themselves somehow release their bottled-up creative life force whenever they are spoken. In short, Solomon was not saying that words are magical. He was (and still is) saying that words have the potential of really affecting fellow Christians or sinners by putting ideas into their minds on which they can act.

Positive confession is an entirely false doctrine. The Bible never ascribes creative power to man or anything in man. Rather, God is the only being with creative power. His words have power because of His being, not because of some inherent power in the words outside of the Speaker. (Heb. 1:3; 11:3; 1 Pet. 1:23; 2 Pet. 3:5)

More than that, the Bible repeatedly tells us to trust God and His Word, but never to trust our own words or ways. Men who trust themselves (or their own words) are called fools. (Pro. 3:5-7; 28:26; Isa. 26:3) The power of words is wholly derived from the ideas they communicate. Ideas are powerful, but even they only have power as they move men to act and think in certain ways.

If Christians are going to obey the Bible, follow Jesus’ example, or think clearly then there will be times when they need to say negative things. At times when truth is at stake, to refuse to speak negatively is cowardice and sin. See Jesus’ “negative confession” in Matt. 23.

Positive confession effectively destroys church discipline because discipline requires critical discernment, negative rebuke, and sorrow over the consequences of sin. It weakens Sola Scriptura because the actual verses of Scripture are not as important as the spoken positive confessions. And it discourages critical, scientific, evidence-based thinking which is not only necessary to interpret the Bible but is essential to defeat the poverty that so many who believe the prosperity gospel live with everyday.

“The language of faith” is one more term to add to the list of cues that the prosperity gospel is in your midst.

http://sonofcarey.wordpress.com/2013/03/05/the-language-of-faith/

WATCH YOUR WORDS joel osteenThe following article is one of the top best three I have ever read on the subject of the Word of Faith Movement teaching being witchcraft veiled in Christian terms. I have linked to the other two at the bottom of this post. I have mined quotes from Occult, New Age and Witchcraft sources before to write a couple of articles on the subject but they are not as good as this one and the two linked at the end of this post.

Ohh, how I wish I could tell and convince everyone that redefining Christian terms is a necessary hallmark and defining feature of all Christian Cults. In fact modern Christian Cult Aplogetics pioneer Walter Martin has a chapter in his legendary book Kingdom of the Cults (link to the book in free PDF form) entitled “Scaling the Language Barrier” in which he says he was often asked “Why is it that when I am talking with a cultist he seems to be in full agreement with what I am saying, but when we have finished talking, I am aware  of a definite lack of communication, almost as though we were not talking the same language?” He goes on to say “The answer to this question is, of course, that we have not been communicating, because the vocabulary of the cults is not, by definition, the vocabulary of the Bible”. Of course you might not think the Word of Faith is a Cult (resource link) and he is speaking about Cults like Mormonism, Jehovah’s Witness’s and Christian Science so his awesome book does not contain anything specifically on the Word of Faith Movement and teaching, but before he died he did some excellent work on the WoF focusing on the subject of this post under the more commonly known synonymous term Positive Confession. He also did other WoF works that are on this blog entitled The Health and Wealth Cult, Does God Always HealA Warning on The Word of Faith Movement and a related work called Evil and Human Suffering.

In fact Martin did so much Work on the WoF before his death that after his last appearance on TBN Benny Hinn put a curse on him and he, Paul Crouch and Kenneth Copeland very strongly inferred that Martin died because of that curse and for “coming against TBN”, “its anointing”,  “Dad Hagin” and other WoF teachers. Of course they did not outright say that and you have to follow what was said by them chronologically to connect the dots and inferences. I have yet to write an article showing the dates along with the quotes to connect those dots but I hope to do so soon. It is possible I might not ever get around to it but I hope to one day. In the mean time I hope you enjoy and are edified by the following article and all the links I have provided.

So your probably wondering just how does the Word of Faith Movement redefine Christian terms to merely appear Christian and to fool Christians into practicing occult teaching? Well the more you study the movement the more you will see they redefine Christian terms just as much as any other Christian Cult – if not more. I will soon write an article showing all the ways the WoF redefines Christian terms, but for now we have a Resource Post showing how they REDEFINE FAITH that list most of the articles and videos here about that dastardly devious yet so sinisterly smooth and dangerous deception that distinguishes Joel Osteen and other WoF teachers from Biblical Christianity.

Thanks for reading or subscribing to this blog and helping share and spread THE WORD on the Word of Faith so people may be delivered.

Joel-Osteen-and-Oprah-Apostasy-Heresy-New-Age-Life-ClassApostasy Alert: Joel Osteen And Oprah Preach New Age Magic - BegginingAndEnd.com SOURCE LINK

Following in the footsteps of Bishop T.D. Jakes, Prosperity Gospel preacher Joel Osteen, Pastor of Lakewood Church, the biggest congregation in America, has now joined Oprah Winfrey’s life classes to teach New Age heresy to the masses. Once again, a Christian pastor has come on Winfrey’s series and preached a message that had no mention of the Biblical gospel, forgiveness of sins or Jesus Christ.

As we noted in our Apostasy Alert article on T.D. Jakes, Oprah Winfrey has been one of the biggest promoters of the New Age movement in the world. Through her talk show, television network and multi media empire Winfrey, who claims to be a Christian, has launched books such as The Secret into all-time best sellers. The Secret, a book that teaches the ancient witchcraft technique, The Law of Attraction is not in line remotely with Biblical Christianity. Rather than looking to Jesus Christ for forgiveness of sins and reconciliation with God, The Secret teaches that a person has the power to attract success, wealth, romance and all sorts of earthly benefits through their own words and rituals.

Here is Oprah promoting the book on her show:

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The book popularized “The Law of Attraction”, an occult technique that involves visualizing a certain goal, constantly focusing and doing certain practices as if it has already happened and then “attracting” it by your constant thoughts and focus. Its author, Rhonda Byrne writes: “All good things are your birthright! You are the creator of you, and the law of attraction is your magnificent tool to create whatever you want in you life. Welcome to the magic of life, and the magnificence of You!” (p. 41)

Of course the Bible says of Jesus Christ:  “All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.” (John 1:3). Jesus Christ is the Creator. Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. A person is blessed through faith in Christ who is the heir of the Universe. And Jesus teaches that constant focus on material gain should not be a Christian’s life:

 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. – Matthew 6:31-33.

The Secret Byrne | Joel Osteen Apostasy New Age wolves in sheep clothing.

Joel Osteen is taking much of his material from this book.

“When you focus your thoughts on something you want, and you hold that focus, you are in that moment summoning what you want with the mightiest power in the Universe. The law of attraction doesn’t compute “don’t” or “not” or “no,” or any other words of negation, this is what the law of attraction is receiving.” – The Secret, p. 9.

By the book’s premise, all power comes through the individual. A person can have whatever they want just calling upon “the mightiest power of the Universe.” Anything can be obtained. The Bible does not teach this. In fact it teaches that we cannot obtain anything of true meaning and significance without God:

Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.  Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.  Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up. – James 4:8-10.

Notice the difference: the Bible acknowledges that God is the means to eternal satisfaction and true peace. And it also teaches that it is sin that is our main obstacle to God. It takes a desire for forgiveness and faith in God to forgive sin through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ that is the message of Christianity.

The Secret reveals its true message later on in the book:

“You are God in a physical body. You are Spirit in the flesh. You are Eternal Life expressing itself as you.” (The Secret, p. 164)

This underscores the message of The Secret and the New Age: that a person can become God. This is of course complete contradictory to the Bible and is following the deception of Satan.

In our first article on Joel Osteen’s witchcraft, we detailed that the Law of Attraction is precisely what Joel Osteen preaches to his congregation and television audience on a regular basis. This is nothing more than witchcraft being given a “Christian”veneer. The Bible of course prophesied that as the end times approached there would be an apostasy – a falling away in the church, where pastors and their congregations would abandon Biblical Christianity in favor of their own man-centered, mystical doctrines. 2 Timothy Chapter 4 issues a directive to pastors to stand for the Biblical, Gospel-centered preaching in this age of Apostasy:

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The Power of the Spoken Word – Biblical or Occult Law? PART 1

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The Power of the Spoken Word – Biblical or Occult Law? PART 2

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2010/04/18/the-power-of-the-spoken-word-%e2%80%93-biblical-or-occult-law-part-2/

mountain moving faithFaith That Moves Mountains: A Prosperity Gospel Blunder SOURCE

At CrossPointe, we’re in the midst of our series Servant/Savior on the Gospel of Mark (if you’re in Orlando, join us!). This past Sunday we made it to the 12th chapter, and are going to finish up the book around Easter. Thanks to Fortress Press sending along a review copy, I’ve been able to read N. T. Wright’s Jesus and The Victory of God alongside our sermon series, which is proving exceptionally useful in illuminating the background to some harder to understand passages. This is particularly true for the passages from Mark 11 onward.

One such passage is Mark 11:12-33. This section includes Jesus cursing a fig tree (12-14), cleansing the temple (15-19), returning to the fig tree (20-25) and silencing the Pharisees when they questioned his authority (27-33). In the midst of these passages we find this quotation from Jesus:

Have faith in God. Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, “Be taken up and thrown into the sea” and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him (22-23).

Now, consider Joel Osteen’s thoughts in a message on specifically the latter verse:

There is incredible power released by God when we speak to our mountains. A mountain is a situation in your life that seems permanent and impossible. It may be a mountain in your marriage; you don’t see how you’ll stay together. A mountain in your finances; it doesn’t look like you’ll ever get out of debt or ever accomplish your dreams. Maybe it’s a mountain in your health. The experts have said that you’re never going to get well. It’s good to pray. It’s good to believe. It’s good to quote scriptures. But the mountains move when we speak to them in Jesus’ powerful name. Learn to say each day, “I speak favor over my finances. I speak health to my body. I speak peace into my family. I speak blessings into my future.”

Ignoring for a moment the voodoo element in this (“I can control reality with the right kind of incantation”), it seems mountain for Osteen is defined but what makes sense to our modern perspective of “mountains” in general (they’re obstacles). If you’re so inclined, you can watch the sermon for yourself, but you can get the gist of his angle though from the above quote. Osteen is not alone in using this verse like this to support some version of the idea that if you just have faith, you can move mountains (e. g. here, here, and here). The question however, is whether that does justice to what Jesus was saying, or is it yet another example of well-meaning Bible interpreters (being generous here) pulling a quote out of context to support a type of “prosperity gospel” or some kind of “name it, claim it” theology?

The short answer is, yes, that is exactly what this is, and if you’re biblically literate, you probably intuitively knew that. So, if that’s not what Jesus is talking about, what is he talking about?

To understand, as you might have guessed, we went to look more closely at the context. I’m going to have to abbreviate arguments in some of this and just punt to Wright’s book and more extensive commentaries that can read if you disagree. Particularly relevant are his passages from p. 405-428 and 490-495, which you ought to consult. In any case, let’s unpack the text.

Starting in v. 12, Jesus does what many prophets to Israel before him had done, and performed an enacted parable. He came to the fig tree (Israel) expecting to find fruit (righteousness) and did not, and so pronounced judgment upon it. If Israel would heed his call to repent and follow him, then they would not fall under the coming judgment. Instead, the Pharisees and many others clung to their own way of doing things, which revolved around the temple system.

This leads then to Jesus coming into the temple and cleansing it, which rather than having a purifying effect, would have halted the sacrificial system temporarily. In other words, Jesus put an end to the temple operation temporarily as a sign that if Israel did not repent and follow him, then the temple would be destroyed permanently. This of course explains why the chief priests and scribes began looking for a way to kill him. He a) took it upon himself to pronounce judgment on the temple system and put a temporary halt to it, which b) was implicitly claiming authority only Yahweh was supposed to have.

Then, the scene shifts back to the fig tree the next morning, which by this point has withered. Peter notices it, and draws Jesus’ attention to it, at which point Jesus says the quotation we have above from vv. 22-23. He then follows that proclamation with a promise about praying for forgiveness of sins against other people and their connection to forgiveness of sins against God.

Now, within this framework, it should already seem unnatural for Jesus to insert a bit of prosperity theology and promise that “having faith” would allow you to move mountains. Jesus is implying by his actions that the whole Jewish system of worship is about to be destroyed if they do not repent and follow him. In that light, his quotation is actually clarifying that idea further. Consider it again, this time with my parenthetical clarifiers:

Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain [on which the temple is currently standing], “Be taken up and thrown into the sea [which symbolizes destruction and ensuing chaos]” and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him.

In other words, if you have faith in God, even the temple system cannot stand in your way of truly following him in what he is doing through Jesus. The mountain, though formidable, would not stand in the way of Messiah building his true temple (this refers back to Zech 1-8, where a “mountain” stands in opposition to the work of Messiah). In that sense, this was a specific promise, given to specific people (the disciples) about what cannot stand in opposition to the coming kingdom of God. In history the promise was fulfilled, and sure enough the temple did not stand in opposition to the spread of the kingdom through the disciples’ divinely appointed mission.

Here’s how Wright summarizes it:

Whatever the “mountain” may have signified in Zechariah’s prophecy, it was clearly something that stood in the way of the building of the Temple. Thus, in Jesus’ riddle, (a) the present Temple is seen as in opposition to the true one, (b) the present Temple will be destroyed, to make way for the true one, and (c) Jesus is the true anointed one, who will bring out the top stone of the building and thus complete it. Once again, the Temple-action lays claim to royalty (p. 495).

Because of that, there is no direct application of that promise regarding mountains for believers today. At best, we could say this promise applies to religious systems interfering with the spread of the gospel, but it certainly has nothing to do with personal difficulties. It could, though obliquely, have to do with our own idols. Taken like that, here’s what Osteen should have said:

There is incredible power released by God when we speak to our idols. An idol is a situation in your life that seems permanent and impossible. It may be an idol in your marriage; you don’t see how you’ll stay together. An idol in your finances; it doesn’t look like you’ll ever get out of debt or ever accomplish your dreams. Maybe it’s an idol in your health. The experts have said that you’re never going to get well. It’s good to pray. It’s good to believe. It’s good to quote scriptures. But the idols move when we speak to them in Jesus’ powerful name. Learn to say each day, “I repent of making an idol of my money or lack thereof. I repent of my body and its health an idol. I repent of making an idol of my family. I repent of having a control idol about my own future and instead trust in Jesus and through the Spirit will follow him.”

Now, as we might say, that’ll preach!

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RELATED POST: PappaGiorgio has this post on our blog that list many commentaries on Mark 11:22-23 along some good comments of his own. Faith In Faith (Updated 7-30-2010)

hopeless peddlers bookI am gladly recommending this book to the readers of this blog, without having read it, because Shawnice Powell of the Experience in the Word of Faith Blog  said of it’s author Nicholas Carl Moore “Bro Nick is cool guy and a strong defender of the faith” – and that she said she plans to pick up a copy of it this weekend. Plus the books “WoF has corrupted” the influence, integrity and witness on the Institute of the Church angle seemed rather unique and very interesting to me.  I’ve never seen a WoF exposure book that takes that line of approach before – so I too hope to be picking up a copy within a few weeks.  Several of Shawnice’s writings are posted on this blog with copious amounts of links back to her site because her writings and postings are good and I am friends with her on Facebook, so I know she is now doctrinally sound and passionate about sharing her experience in the WoF and also has a heart for defending biblical truth – even if it means Standing Alone, which it often does. She has not been out of the WoF for all that long but if you read her testimony that is posted here on this sites Testimony Page you will see she has taken the time to detox and reprogram her self and her theology, after being in the WoF for 11 years (as indicated on the first link above).

I was even more happy when I discovered that Nicholas is in full time ministry from his Facebook page here. And when I visited the third link above I became excited to get this book and recommend it because “Bro Nic” has written several other books that deal with such topics as “Why Most Black Churches Fail Most Black Men“, which it’s description text says “This book is a serious indictment on the Church, the Body of Christ, Pastors, church leaders and families to stop the charade, lying, manipulation, emasculation and witchcraft which has become a well orchestrated “circus” better known as Sunday Morning Service! God is not pleased and it is evident! The title of this book, along with the cover was not conceived by the publishers or some slick marketing firm. I am sick and tired of watching these arrogant Pastors manipulate the Word of God to benefit their own lustful desires“. Wow man, I might have to force my tightwad and limited funds self to get that one too. Don’t that sound like it will be a great great book? It does to me because in my time of keeping up with the WoF Movement I have come to believe that it’s influence on my black brothers and sisters in Christ is probably far greater than in most predominantly “white” churches, on a per capita basis.

Of this book I am recommeding the description text says “This book is a profound indictment on how the prosperity gospel has corrupted the influence, integrity and witness of the institutional church“. I like that description allot too. So I hope you can see why I am recommending the book without having read it yet, and in part because of Shawnice’s words about it’s author.

I asked Shawnice to write a review of it when she gets done reading it – but she has not yet had time to respond to my request. If she does I’ll post that review or a link to it here on this blog. I would also like to write a review of the book after I read it but I am the kinda guy who has allot of ups and downs and often puts too much on his plate to ever get around to it all – and sometimes I drop my whole darn plate. But if the Lord is willing I’ll get around to it. I also asked Nicolas if he would do a radio show with me about the book (see what I mean about that too full plate? lol). If he says yes, you can listen to that show here within a few weeks to find out more about the book. So if it sounds great to you like it does me – pick up a copy and let me know what you think. If you have any questions you can contact Nicolas through his Facebook page listed above. Thanks for reading and/or subscribing to this blog.

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Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyers and other Word of Faith teachers proclaim there is creative power and literal power of life and death in the tongue, via (Prov. 18:21 KJV) “Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof”.  Is this the correct interpretation and application of this verse?

The site BeginningAndEnd.com posted a wonderfully well researched and written article entitled “Apostasy Alert: Joel Osteen and Oprah Preach New Age Majic”. In the comment section a very sincere sounding guy named Todd wrote a comment about the article and the subject of the Power Of Words that provoked a response from me. My response turned out to be way too long to post in the comment section so I copied Todd’s comment and made my response here for him and the readers of this blog. To Todd, and others – I am sorry this comment turned out so long that I had to turn it into a post here on this blog, but this is a subject that I am very very passionate about and as you start reading it you will discover why. Todd, your comment there was almost illegible and I had to edit it to make it more readable for everyone because I had to read it five or six times to comprehend all of what you was saying. I hope I did not misrepresent you, your words and your meaning by doing so. Please speak up if I did. To the readers of this blog, you can read Todd’s comment in it’s original form at the article link above. To everyone, if you do not have time to read my very long response, please read the two articles linked at the bottom as they are the best post on this blog about the overall subject. PLEASE NOTE – I usually do not open comments on this blog but I have done so on this post incase Todd or anyone would like to discuss this matter further. Here is Todd’s comment and my response. – Damon Whitsell

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“Todd – Anyone who makes false claims confuses and aids disorder. While people should be aware of false teachers if you present it mixed with false hood it only serves to confuse. The bible clearly says (Prov 18:21 KJV) “Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.” God in the beginning called things into existence when He created the world. When Jesus came He has called us to do the same. If you say unto the mountain be thou removed and doubt not in your heart it shall be removed. The devil only copies God and has to work within the laws of the universe that are in existent. God with using Moses as a medium wrote the Pentateuch (the 5 books of Moses), penta as in 5 like Pentagram. Often in the occult they use a 5 pointed star. Does this make the Pentateuch evil? No. The established laws of the universe by God have it that death and life are in the power of the tongue [law of attraction]. Now you like Moses or Jesus or the Apostles can speak and cause a thing and will be righteous if you do it in His name and for His glory. Or you can use the law of attraction for greed, lust, yourself, the devil and death. Death or life is in the power of the tongue. This includes all you say every act is a magical act say those in occult. God says what you speak happens by many biblical verses like proverbs 18:21 and others. So if you speak out negativity you will get it. If you were to listen to a sermon like, Taming the tongue – by pastor Matthew Hagge, you might see a lot of similarities between it and ‘the secret’. The difference is in pastor Hagees sermon will be full of bible verses and biblical application. But the method is the same cause the laws of the universe created by God are the same. Get your facts straight cause it will further your cause. You have a lot of good info on this site, but wrong facts will turn those whom you wish to save away. And death and life are in the tongue. Jesus said ‘judge not lest ye be judged’ so be careful not to judge present facts and be clear and cross check them.

Prov 4:21 KJV) “Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart.”

(Prov 6:2 KJV) “Thou art snared with the words of thy mouth, thou art taken with the words of thy mouth.”

(Prov 12:18 KJV) “There is that speaketh like the piercings of a sword: but the tongue of the wise is health.”

(Prov 15:4 KJV) “A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.”

(Prov 17:20 KJV) “He that hath a froward heart findeth no good: and he that hath a perverse tongue falleth into mischief

Authority is released through words:

(Mark 11:23 KJV) “For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.”

(Mark 11:24 KJV) “Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.”

(John 14:13 KJV) “And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.”

(John 14:14 KJV) “If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.”

You receive what you believe…(Prov 6:2 KJV) “Thou art snared with the words of thy mouth, thou art taken with the words of thy mouth.”

The tongue… oh how powerful”

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HI Todd, I read your comment and felt lead to respond. This may shock you but I have to say that Joel Osteen and his teaching killed a very good friend of mine. I know you may think that sounds absurd but please hear me out. My friend got addicted to pain pills and when I would tell him “those pills are going to destroy you, if you do not get off of them”. He would respond “not if you will quit speaking negative things into my life”. He got that idea because he was an avid follower of Osteen. I know you might think Joel and his teachings had nothing to do with my friend’s death, it was the pills. Please let me explain further.
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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | March 1, 2013

EXPOSING ERROR: IS IT WORTHWHILE? by Dr. Harry Ironside

truth and errorObjection is often raised even by some sound in the faith-regarding the exposure of error as being entirely negative and of no real edification. Of late, the hue and cry has been against any and all negative teaching.

But the brethren who assume this attitude forget that a large part of the New Testament, both of the teaching of our blessed Lord Himself and the writings of the apostles, is made up of this very character of ministry—namely, showing the Satanic origin and, therefore, the unsettling results of the propagation of erroneous systems which Peter, in his second epistle, so definitely refers to as “damnable heresies.”

Our Lord prophesied, “Many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.” Within our own day, how many false prophets have risen; and oh, how many are the deceived! Paul predicted, “I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. Therefore watch.”

My own observation is that these “grievous wolves,” alone and in packs, are not sparing even the most favoured flocks. Undershepherds in these “perilous times” will do well to note the apostle’s warning: Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers.

It is as important in these days as in Paul’s—in fact, it is increasingly important—to expose the many types of false teaching that, on every hand, abound more and more. We are called upon to “contend earnestly for the faith once for all delivered to the saints,” while we hold the truth in love. The faith means the whole body of revealed truth, and to contend for all of God’s truth necessitates some negative teaching.

The choice is not left with us. Jude said he preferred a different, a pleasanter theme:

Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 

For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. (Jude 3, 4)

Paul likewise admonishes us to have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them (Ephesians 5:11). This does not imply harsh treatment of those entrapped by error—quite the opposite.

If it be objected that exposure to error necessitates unkind reflection upon others who do not see as we do, our answer is: it has always been the duty of every loyal servant of Christ to warn against any teaching that would make Him less precious or cast reflection upon His finished redemptive work and the all-sufficiency of His present service as our great High Priest and Advocate.

Every system of teaching can be judged by what it sets forth as to these fundamental truths of the faith. “What think ye of Christ?” is still the true test of every creed. The Christ of the Bible is certainly not the Christ of any false “-ism.” Each of the cults has its hideous caricature of our lovely Lord.

Let us who have been redeemed at the cost of His precious blood be “good soldiers of Jesus Christ.” As the battle against the forces of evil waxes ever more hot, we have need for God-given valour. There is constant temptation to compromise.

“Let us go forth therefore unto Him without the camp, bearing His reproach.” It is always right to stand firmly for what God has revealed concerning His blessed Son’s person and work. The “father of lies” deals in half-truths and specializes in most subtle fallacies concerning the Lord Jesus, our sole and sufficient Savior.

Error is like leaven of which we read, “A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.” Truth mixed with error is equivalent to all error, except that it is more innocent looking and, therefore, more dangerous. God hates such a mixture! Any error, or any truth-and-error mixture, calls for definite exposure and repudiation.

To condone such is to be unfaithful to God and His Word and treacherous to imperiled souls for whom Christ died. Exposing error is most unpopular work. But from every true standpoint it is worthwhile work. To our Savior, it means that He receives from us, His blood-bought ones, the loyalty that is His due.

To ourselves, if we consider “the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures of Egypt,” it ensures future reward, a thousand-fold. And to souls “caught in the snare of the fowler”—how many of them God only knows—it may mean light and life, abundant and everlasting.

Hat Tip to Apprising Ministries and The Watchman’s Bagpipes

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | March 1, 2013

What is Discernment?

“Discernment is not knowing the difference between right and wrong. It is knowing the difference between right and almost right.” —C.H. Spurgeon

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 27, 2013

Greg Koukl says Word of Faith/Power of Words teaching is Occultic

If you listen to or read Joel Osteen or Joyce Meyers – Your being taught Occult, New Age and Witchcraft teaching. ARE YOU PRACTICING WITCHCRAFT UNAWARE?

Greg Koukl – The Power of Words

Check out this comment at the YouTube video page.

gmjsimmons – “Thanks Greg. Before I was a Christian, I had been involved in the occult. After conversion I participated in the Charismatic movement and noted that some of their ideas were more magic than Christian. Some Charismatics believed that properly applied faith was supposed to get you things that you wanted. That idea always seemed more like my old occult belief than the new way of thinking I found in the Bible and Christ.”

The distinctive teaching of the Word of Faith Movement is it’s doctrine of Positive Confession or The Power of Words teaching. It is this teaching that separates The Word of Faith Movement from all of Christianity including The Charismatic and Pentecostal Movements. The largest Pentecostal denomination, The Assemblies of God, has issued a position paper on Positive Confession distancing themselves from such teaching. This aberrant (departing from an accepted standard) teaching is Occultic and IS NOT Christian. Words do have power in the sense that they are influential as words can be used to build someone up or to tear someone down but words CANNOT effect material realities.

One of the keystone Word of Faith proof-text for this teaching is Proverbs 18:21 “Death and life are in the power of the tongue, And those who love it will eat its fruit.”, but if you look at the whole context of Proverbs 18 it is clearly not teaching that words literally have the Literal Power of literal Life and Death. So if you say “my back is killing me” you don’t have to worry about speaking your own death into existence. Please read the whole of Proverbs 18 here to see it is teaching the ideas expressed in the following graphic and IS NOT teaching that words have creative power.

power of word good oneSo when Joyce Meyers says “Word are Containers of Power” as she did in her book “The Name, The Word, The Blood” on page 37, she is not teaching you to practice Christianity but rather historical Occult teaching. And when Joel Osteen says “You can change your world by changing your words… Remember, death and life are in the power of the tongue” he is taking Proverbs 18 verse 21 out of context and is teaching you the same thing that Witches believe (that words have creative power). Please read these very telling quotes from Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland and founder of the Trinity Broadcast Network Paul Crouch. I’m sure the last two quotes can be found online in audio form, I’m not sure about the first.
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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 23, 2013

Benny Hinn’s son and bodyguards arrested for Brazil crusade beating

Originally posted on Group Sects:

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The Daily Mail reports…

The son of American evangelist Benny Hinn was  arrested in Brazil after allegedly beating up a deaf and dumb man during one of  his father’s rallies, it was reported today.

Hestephenson Araujo, 21, reportedly needed  hospital treatment after the incident on Saturday night during a religious  crusade in Manaus, northern Brazil.

Police detained Joshua Hinn, 21, along with  two of Benny Hinn’s bodyguards, on suspicion of torture after the three men  allegedly locked Mr Araujo in a trailer and physically assaulted him.

According to police, Mr Araujo, a local  pastor, was sitting in the front row of seats at the event, in the city’s Povos  da Amazonia arena when, during Mr Hinn’s sermon, he got up and approached the  stage.

Mr Araujo, who was carrying a bottle of  water, later said he only wanted to receive a blessing from the famous  evangelist…

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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 10, 2013

Word of Faith Positive Confession is really “Occult Powers”

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Positive Confession

Positive Confession is the belief that if a believer speaks “spiritual” or “faith-filled” words then he can have what he says. Unfortunately, this influence has invaded the church and continues to cause much turmoil and confusion.

Many of the teachers of the word-faith movement believe that words are so powerful that they can influence the physical and spiritual worlds. For example:

In The Tongue, a Creative Force (1976), positive confessionist Charles Capps, teaches that there are powerful “spiritual” words. Such words, which are ordinary words, can under certain circumstances, become vehicles for creative or supernatural power.

When “faith-filled” spiritual words are spoken (as words of power), they can alter the physical and spiritual world. Capps says, “You see there is more to it than just saying it. The words must originate from the inner man where spiritual power is released through words.”

He goes on to state that “spirit words can control both the spirit world and the physical world. Because the words themselves have power, they will work for either God or man in the same manner.” He goes on:

“The spirit of man is not of this world, it is of the spirit world. The creative ability of man comes through his spirit. He speaks spirit words that work in the world of the spirit. They will also dominate the physical world. He breathes spirit life into God’s Word and it becomes a living substance, working for him as it worked for God in the beginning. These spirit words dominate the natural world” (p. 117-118).

What Capps is alluding to in the above statement is his teaching that since God, “by His faith” (using words) spoke this physical world into existence; the believer, using faith, can do the same. That is, the believer can speak things into existence. However, God’s word is already “quick and powerful” (Hebrews 4:12), and it is referred to as the “Word of Life” (Phillipians 2:16). It is not necessary to activate it by speaking words of faith as though it were asleep or dead! Rather, it is by hearing the “living” word that one is brought to salvation through faith in Christ. (Romans 10:17)

A number of the prosperity teachers believe that the spiritual world controls and continually forms the physical world. So, if one can learn to control the spiritual world, then he can learn to control the physical world as well. This teaching then becomes the foundation for securing individual prosperity.

That is why in Releasing the Ability of God, Capps states, “You can have what you say! (because) the powerful force of the spiritual world that creates the circumstances around us is controlled by the words of the mouth. This force comes from inside us; the confession of our mouth will cause you to possess it” (pp. 98-99, parenthesis mine). This is why he teaches, “Discipline your vocabulary,” and “today your word is god over your circumstances” (pp. 101-104).

Capps also teaches that the power within a Christian, within one’s spirit, functions according to unchangeable laws. He says “These principles of faith are based on spiritual laws. They work for whosoever will apply these laws” (The Tongue, p. 103).

D. R. McConnell, in his book, A Different Gospel, directly traces the origin the spiritual laws taught in positive confession to the metaphysics of E.W. Kenyon, a man of 50-60 years ago whose theology was that of Pentecostal Christian Science (A Different Gospel, pp. 3-56).

McConnell records Kenneth Copeland in The Laws of Prosperity (p. 98, 101) as saying, “You can have what you say! In fact, what you are saying is exactly what you are getting now. If you are living in poverty and lack and want, change what you are saying. It will change what you have. Discipline your vocabulary. God will be obligated to meet your needs because of His word. If you stand firmly on this, your needs will be met” (Ibid., p. 173).

McConnell further states, that E.W. Kenyon’s New Thought classmate, Ralph Waldo Trine, attributes the confession of prosperity to “Occult power.” He says that “Trine believed that thought is a force, and it has Occult power of unknown proportions when rightly used and wisely directed” (Ibid., p. 174).

The usage of Occult powers is, of course, a practice that the Word-Faith teachers would publicly reject. Of course, this is not to say that those offering these teachings are Occultists. They are teachers who may never have thought through the implications of the practices they advocate. They may be unaware of the similarities between certain aspects of positive confession and Occulict practices. Nevertheless, the similarities do exist, and these practices are neither Biblical nor Christian.

John Ankerberg’s issue of News and Views, June 1988, p. 1, reports that these words are used in religious rituals to influence both the spirit world and the material world. The report quotes Occult magician David Conway discussing the power of magical words to affect these worlds:

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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 10, 2013

BEWARE THE BLACK HOLE OF GREED

I uploaded and posted this video about three years ago, but I am re-posting it now because while it has not gotten many many views – the comments really give praise to this video. The people that produced it did an excellent job and it so aptly applies to the WoF and Prosperity Gospel. I’ll make comments open below so you can comment on the video and how it applies to the WoF.

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 10, 2013

The Word of Faith PONZI SCHEME

James 5:15 - And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise him up. If he has sinned, he will be forgiven.

Pastors of evangelical churches today make an average of $40,000 a year.  Prosperity gospel preachers are fairing a bit better though.  Kenneth Copeland for instance: his ministry’s 1,500-acre campus sits behind an iron gate, a half-hour drive from Fort Worth…includes a church, a private airstrip, a hangar for the ministry’s $17.5 million jet and other aircraft, and a $6 million church owned lakefront mansion.

While Copeland has not released up-to-date salary statements, “the church disclosed in a property-tax exemption application that his wages were $364,577 in 1995; Copeland’s wife, Gloria, earned $292,593.  It’s not clear whether those figures include other earnings, such as special offerings for guest preaching or book royalties.”

*If you’re interested, there is a detailed listing of pastors and their salaries at the bottom of this post. (Ed Young jr., Joel Osteen, Benny Hinn…etc)

Religious Ponzi Schemes are rampant today and the only people being “blessed,” are the preachers at the top of the scheme.  Turn on just about any Evangelism/Christian Television Network on TV, and you will undoubtedly hear many prosperity preachers and charismatic faith healers giving a very shallow message filled with empty words, and immediately follow up the message with a short, 60 second breakaway spot where the Pastor, sitting at his desk, will plead the viewers to sow a “seed” of just $58, send it to his church in the mail, and God will bless you with a “harvest.”

~GOD MIGHT SAY NO~

If believers truly want their prayers answered and want to be blessed, sending a random dollar amount to a TV Preacher is as effective as placing a prayer cloth and an autographed picture of Jesus on the hood of your broken car in hopes that it will magically start.  Don’t waste your money.

Believers must pray fervently, earnestly, and be ready for God to say, “NO.”  Just because one “claims” victory over cancer, doesn’t mean God is going to take the cancer away.  God doesn’t care what Christians “claim,” He cares first and foremost about His will and His purpose and HIS glory.

“Name It and Claim,” they’ll tell you.  Take some random promise God made to a specific people (usually from the old testament,) and claim that promise for yourself.  As if we – FINITE HUMANS –  will hold God accountable to something He never promised us in the first place.  This is  man-made, man-centered theology, powered by extreme greed.  Anytime a “follower” of Christ, attempts to make outrageous demands for prosperity and personal gain, they reduce Almighty God to little more than a vending machine.

In the biblically sound churches, however, we are seeing this garbage doctrine infiltrate the minds of the spiritually weak and immature, whom are either not in the word daily – so as to be capable to spot such false doctrine –  or were never saved to begin with.  Either way, these are the victims the enemy will prey on.

If we are honest with ourselves, we may even notice our own prayers becoming more and more like shopping lists that show little care or concern for God’s glory or His will.  We’ve forgotten the model of prayer Christ gave His disciples and have traded it in for self-focused, subjective, felt-needs-oriented religion.

“I AM CLAIMING VICTORY OVER ‘THIS’ GOD!”  “ONLY BY CLAIMING VICTORY CAN I WIN!” 

When I hear people say this or I see it posted on social media I just shake my head in disappointment.  Christians routinely reduce Prayer to a superstitious, selfish, and lazy means to an end.  Always with “VICTORY,” or “FINANCIAL FREEDOM…” aka wealth.

Word-Faith preachers will even use scripture to back up their fallacies.  Verses like Psalm 37:4 and John 15:7b.

It’s easy to make the bible say what WE want it to say when we take scripture out of context or we lack full understanding of what we are reading.  Read ALL of John 15:7…

If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be given you.”

Therefore, if we come alongside what God is already doing – our will aligns with HIS will – we will ask according to His purpose.  In other words, if we knew what God knows, we’d want what God wants.  So when we ask for things OUSTIDE of God’s will, of course He is going to say no!

Picking up a rattle snake from the grass may look like a good time to a 6 year old, but Daddy knows it could be deadly.  Consider…

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Friday, February 8, 2013 – IT is interesting how this new twist on the Christian gospel has enjoyed a tremendous surge in popularity lately.

Inspirational guru and pastor Joel Osteen and his wife Victoria are perhaps two of the prime movers behind this movement today, and their Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas is currently considered the largest church in the United States. Closer to home, El Shaddai founder Mike Velarde preaches the same message to his thousands of faithful, inspiring them to pray for God’s material blessings in their lives. And, lately even esteemed Catholic lay preacher Bo Sanchez seems to have joined the bandwagon as well, publishing a number of books on the subject of the prosperity gospel.

At its heart, the gospel is nothing if not the belief that faith in God will result in material well-being for the believer—an extension of his “divine providence” that promises to all that their needs will be met, and that they will be taken care of.

“Believe in God and you will be prosperous” is perhaps not a bad way to summarize what this movement is all about.

Especially in today’s material world, the message has great appeal. Instead of the multiplying loaves and fishes to feed the hungry by the Sea of Galilee, today’s prosperity gospel preachers paint a picture of multiplying iPhone, iPads and cars to the faithful, giving them the hope that their material needs will not only be met, but that their wants will be satisfied too.

At face value, it is hard to argue with this. No doubt the greatest commandment, as Jesus himself taught us in Luke, is to “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind; and, love your neighbor as yourself.” And being prosperous goes a long way in ensuring that we are able to love our neighbors, for surely the more we have in life, then the more we can share with them.

Ok, stay with this for a second. Prosperity, in and of itself, is not bad. But it always has to be construed against the fabric of Christian love for others that Jesus taught us all to have. The problem is, there is also the disturbing trend that often accompanies this gospel, which oftentimes clouds the understanding of Christ’s message—this belief in a “personal relationship” with Him, and the corollary that blessings flow vertically from God to man, akin with the relationship.
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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 8, 2013

Why People say Joel Osteen teaches Witchcraft

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Why I Said Joel Osteen Advocates Witchcraft

 The other day Joel Osteen — or whoever runs his Twitter account — tweeted this: “The more you say what God says, the more you’ll experience His best. Remember to speak life over your situation today!”

I re-tweeted this statement, adding this comment: “This is witchcraft.”

A few people asked me what was up with that. What he said might be a little “out there” or “un-helpful” (as one guy put it), but witchcraft? Really?

Yes.

Defenders of the Word of Faith-type preachers and “prophets” often point to verses like Proverbs 18:21:

Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruits.

Aside from the hermeneutical shakiness involved in building an entire theology out of a proverb, Word of Faith’ers misunderstand this verse. It is not saying your tongue holds supernatural power to speak matter or circumstances into existence. It is saying that it’s possible to talk yourself into trouble. In the context of what other things the book of Proverbs says about the tongue, what this guideline means is that we ought to be careful what we say, sometimes be silent, and remember that we will be held to account for our words.

There are three biblical ways words can bring life:

1. We can generally agree that the tongue is a powerful force. Just read James 3. But you don’t have to be a charismaniac to realize that words can hurt or comfort. Encouragement edifies; nagging and criticism do not. Many of us still carry wounds from words said to us in our past.

2. Also, those of us of the Reformed persuasion are quick to affirm the supernatural power available in the written Word of God spoken. The gospel is power. When God speaks, things happen. And the Holy Spirit uses the foolishness of preaching to stir dead men’s souls and waken sleeping men’s senses.

3. Those of us of the continuationist persuasion can agree that God sometimes heals people through humbly administered gifts of healing and the laying on of hands, and nearly all Christians can agree that God sometimes heals people through the effectual prayers of the saints. In both cases things change when words are spoken, but in neither case is the speaker’s tongue the source of creative power. God is.

In all three of those senses, speaking words is powerful and life-giving. But in no biblical sense is merely speaking words God’s way of creating material or medical prosperity. In no sense is this formulaic as Osteen and other Word of Faith’ers continue to maintain. In other words, it does not follow that if someone is experiencing major setbacks it is because they aren’t “speaking words of prosperity over” their lives. Likewise, it does not follow that everyone who does speak such words will reap circumstantial goodness.

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QUOTES OF WORD OF FAITH TEACHERS ADMITTING WORD OF FAITH TEACHING IS OCCULTIC/NEW AGE/WITCHCRAFT

I’m sure the last two quotes can be found online in audio form, I’m not sure about the first.
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Benny Hinn claims the Holy Spirit told him, “…that if witches and occultists can speak death by the supernatural power of words, then Christian can speak life and prosperity by the same power.” The Facts on the Faith Movement, J. Ankerberg & J. Weldon, Harvest House, 1993, p.23 Copyright ©2008

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Benny Hinn:Witches even..I mean..I’m not here to talk about witches but, but I’ll tell you this.

Paul Crouch:They..they under they know the secret.

Benny Hinn: “,,,because see I had a witch tell me this. And I said what!? She said, listen to me, she said do you know that we are taught in witchcraft how to kill birds with words, and how to kill people with our mouth. I said what do you mean kill people? She said we are taught with words to bring disease on men. I said how? She said by speaking certain words (unintelligible) she said we can actually cause sickness that could very well kill.Christianity in Crisis (audiobook), tape II, side 3.

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COPELAND: Jesus said that out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks and that’s when the action takes place because that is when the spiritual force is brought up out of the mouth – whether it be fear or whether it be faith – and when that spiritual force comes out, it is going to give substance to that image that is inside of you. People say, ‘that is that New Age visualization stuff’. The New Age is trying to do this. And they get somewhat results out of it because it is a spiritual law. (Believer’s Voice of Victory (television program), TBN, 28 March 1991.)

LINKS ON THE SUBJECT

Ex-Word of Faith Testimony: Ex-WoFer is also a Former Witch who says The Word of Faith is Witchcraft

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2013/02/07/ex-word-of-faith-testimony-ex-wofer-is-also-a-former-witch-who-says-the-word-of-faith-is-witchcraft/

The Word of Faith IS NOT THE GOSPEL / The Word of Faith IS WITCHCRAFT VEILED IN CHRISTIAN TERMS

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2009/05/12/the-word-of-faith-is-not-the-gospel/

Abracadabra, Presto and SHAZAAM,, YOUR HEALED of your Word of Faith Delusion,,, because I SAY SO By Damon Whitsell

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2010/07/12/abracadabra-presto-and-shazaam-your-healed-of-your-word-of-faith-delusion-because-i-say-so-by-damon-whitsell-2/

The Power of the Spoken Word – Biblical or Occult Law? PART 1

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2010/04/18/the-power-of-the-spoken-word-%e2%80%93-biblical-or-occult-law-part-1/

The Power of the Spoken Word – Biblical or Occult Law? PART 2

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2010/04/18/the-power-of-the-spoken-word-%e2%80%93-biblical-or-occult-law-part-2/

DANGER SIGNS in the Word of Faith movement: WITCHES UNAWARE: Word of Faith movement is simply Witchcraft disguised in Christian terms

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2009/02/20/danger-signs-in-the-word-of-faith-movement-witches-unaware-word-of-faith-movement-is-simply-witchcraft-disguised-in-christian-terms/

Jesus’s Instructions for our Prayers

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2009/06/24/jesuss-instructions-for-our-prayers/

Witchcraft in Word Faith Teachings

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2012/09/29/5100/

Is The Word Of Faith New Age?

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2009/05/16/new-age-word-of-faith/

The Word of Faith Message is voodoo

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2008/10/14/voodoo/

VISIT OUR EX-WoF

I posted an article I wrote on Joyce Meyers at FreeRepublic.com and when someone responded that they liked her I claimed that The Word of Faith teaching is really Witchcraft veiled in Christians terms. In disbelief he said that he had attended one of Meyer’s meetings with his daughter and son-in-law and that he “didn’t really see anyone there who looked like a good advocate for witchcraft”.  To that comment I responded…

“I have never said that Meyers or her followers look like witches or advocate for witchcraft. Witches don’t have big crooked noses with moles and ride brooms,, doncha know. But I do claim the WoF power of words or confessionism teaching (you possess what you confess) is witchcraft veiled in Christian terms. And it is not just me that comes to this conclusion but many apologetics ministries that cover the WoF.

I have met over 100 ex-Wofers and I make a point of asking them all if they think they were practicing witchcraft when applying that WoF doctrine. Most say right off the bat that yes they believe they were. And all others, after some conversation, said yes they were practicing witchcraft. And for all of them to admit they were tricked into and were actually practicing witchcraft is a powerful thing.

I have written an article and produced a video on the topic. I quote from Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland and Paul Crouch where they admit WoF doctrine is witchcraft and/or new age visualization. I’ll post my articles below and then others who have come to the same conclusion. The last three come from ex-word of faithers.

Another  thing I like to ask ex-word of faithers is what was the source of them getting deceived. And they tell me is was their pride,, and that they wanted to have the power to control their lifes and circumstances.  So when they heard the WoF message that they could create their futures with the power of the words they speak, they took the bait and was hooked.

I think besides souls being lost to hell one of the worse things about the WoF is that most WoFers will not have a clue that they were really witches unaware and practicing witchcraft. But once that is exposed to them by Christ on judgement day, they will never forget and that they were so motivated by their own desires and need to control things that they were fooled into practicing witchcraft unaware will torment them for all eternity”.

Along with the links below this article I posted a link to a Google Search for the Keywords “word of faith witchcraft” so that he might see that many others besides me have come to the same conclusion. I found more than several articles on the subject that I had never seen before. And this is one of them. I will be re-posting more of them over the days to come.

I have to tell some of you that if you follow word of faith teachers and teachings, you’re following witches and you are being taught witchcraft. And with people like Joel Osteen and Joyce Meyers who are “WoF lite”, because they do not focus exclusively on WoF distinctive doctrines, some of you will not believe it is true even if an ex-witch, ex-Wofer tells you.

A year ago I had a practicing witch contact me on YouTube about a video I made claiming the WoF is witchcraft and she agreed and thanked me for my video saying it’s not right for Christians to be fooled into practicing witchcraft when they think they are believing and practicing Christianity. She said she would come on a radio show with me about it one day. I’ll try to contact her if I can remember her name she was using and see of she will do that soon.

If you’re practicing that words have power in that they shape your life and future, you’re practicing witchcraft. Words have power in that they are influential – but they do not have the power to create things. A positive attitude is nice but it does not change reality and neither do words. Positive and negative confession is the very foundation of witchcraft. A confession is the same thing as an incantation or spell in witchcraft and other branches of occult philosophy. The belief that words have creative power is occultic in origin and is not a historical Christian teaching. It was brought into Christianity through Kenneth Hagin, whom got it from EW Kenyon, whom got it from Phineus Quimby of New Thought fame – and he got it from the occult. Also a student of Quimby and Occultic New Thought was Mary Baker Eddie of Christian Science fame. She coined the phrase ‘YOU POSSESS WHAT YOU CONFESS”

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Time is Short – I Cannot Stay Quite Any longer!

First, let me say that I am not here to be calling out any names, or to try to “bring down” any ministries right now! I only hope to provide information to shed some light on teachings that are in error, and to show people the real Jesus Christ, of the Scriptures of the Holy Bible.I need to say some things, to my brothers and sisters in Christ, about some misconceptions of so MANY of the people who are caught up in the Word Faith movement and Prosperity Gospel, because that is exactly what it is – they have been “snared”!

We need to have a loving heart for those in that deception… It is, many times, like being raised by a highly dysfunctional parent! Most get caught when they were 1) raised in a dead church that did not emphasize, or teach, that they needed to read the Word of God for themselves, or 2) they are a non-believer who wandered in to a WOF church – got caught up in all the emotion (the whole experience in one of these churches is a highly charged, emotional experience) – and just never learned anything else, or 3) they are brand-new Christians floundering, by themselves, and looking for direction (which was my case), or 4) they were born and raised in it, and know nothing else, but what they have been taught their whole life. Many of these church members really do not know anything else! They really do NOT need to be made fun of. They need sound doctrine, instruction, to be shown the Truth, and MERCY!

You see, I did not have the luxury of even knowing the Scriptures, yet, back when I was snared…

I was a brand-new Christian, floundering on my own, coming out of neo-Paganism and New Age teachings. I was previously a witch, tarot card reader, into yoga, entrenched in ISA (previously known as EST), into clothing-optional gatherings, dabbled in Buddhism, dabbled in Reiki and crystal healing, read and believed much of “A Course in Miracles” (before it was made “popular” by Oprah), jewelry maker of “commitment bands” (which I sold to gay couples) and crystal jewelry (I “charged” those with spells and sold them at new-age and pagan festivals), into all the positive thinking stuff, persecuted Christians and their belief system, etc., etc., etc. This, sadly, was the first “church” I ended up in… See, if you do not know the scriptures for yourself (which is the state of MOST of the people in this movement), it is very EASY to get sucked into it…!

I remember sitting there thinking, “Cool, I did this stuff for satan’s team, before (the positive confession stuff – aka positive thinking, visualisation, etc.), but NOW I am on the RIGHT team, and I can do it for Jesus!” ***sigh***

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Does Joyce Meyers teach a “feel good” Gospel and Christianity – or am I just misinformed?

I got notice of this thread on ChristianForums.com via a pingback to our groublog when this article was posted there.

I thought since this thread about dreams and idols turned into a debate about Joyce Meyers and comments were made like she is “anything but a feel good preacher” and “the last thing Joyce Meyers teaches is feel good Christianity”,, I would chime in a post some resources from our groupblog concerning Meyers and her teachings here.

I mean come on,, how can anyone say Meyers does not teach a “feel good” gospel or Christianity? She is famous because of her TV show called “Enjoying Everyday Life”. How is that not equivalent to a feel good message? And yes I have watched many hours of her program and know the title of her show sums up most of the individual show topics. She has written around 70 books and almost all of them have “feel good” titles and topic matter that does not focus on theology or the Gospel of Jesus Christ at all – but rather basically how to “enjoy everyday life”. How is that not “feel good”? And these books are not put in the theology sections even in Christian books stores, they go to the self-help section. How does self-help not equate to feel good and a feel good message? And if you will look inside Meyers books you will see they are even categorized by the Library Of Congress as “Self Help”. How does this not relate to “feel  good”?

The thread started with a pretty sincere post asking… Dreamer28 – “Is this Idolatry? Wanting to play the Piano, then Write, and Dance or Contortion? Would I be making myself into an Idol for this? Anyways, someone pls let me know, cause I like to do those things, it’s what keeps me from being bored, but sometimes I have a feeling that these things are of my own plans and not God’s, but then again, today I heard that any dream you have is a vision from God and that I should try to make it come true. It was in the Joel Osteen book. (I declare) and so does Joyce Meyers, she talks about following your dreams too. But I don’t know. I’ve probably asked this question, but I need more assurance about whether or not it’s ok. thanks.”

Then the following sentence in one comment changed the course of the discussion in the thread “Joel Osteen and Joyce Meyers do seem to have a feel good gospel which is real harmful since it paints a false picture of what a Christian life should look like. We will all face struggles and trials”.

That comment resulted in the following two comments.

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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 4, 2013

PROBLEMS WITH THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL by BornAgainJerry

A commenter named BornAgainJerry left this great comment on our open discussion thread here called “OPEN THREAD (Please Participate For New Article Creation) – PROBLEMS WITH THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL”. I thought I would share it with the readers and subscribers of this blog and ask you to also comment on our open discussion thread about Problems with the Prosperity Gospel. I hope to use that input and some of the material to write a lengthy and detailed article on Problems with the Prosperity Gospel next week. PLEASE, SPEAK UP AND SPEAK YOUR MIND!!!

PROBLEMBornAgainJerry – “The Prosperity gospel is pseudo-christian in nature that appeals to the appetites of the flesh, even atheists are attracted to it; in a narcissus society such as ours that selfishly cares for its own well being of obtaining wealth, health, and material trappings for its own extravaganza, the prosperity gospel is a message welcomed within todays church with open arms!

Its a “quick fix” for greed ‘sanctioned by God’ (according to the prosperity pimps) its adherents never seen to catch on to the fact that the only ones prospering are the preachers.

These pseudo-intellectuals have fooled the unthinking with their fake credentials (one in particular has only an 8th grade education now calls himself “Dr.”) with less than 40 hrs of training from one of the many diploma mills (for a fee of course).

With their self appointed titles of bishops, apostles, prophet & prophetess they have “dumbed-down” the average christian into unquestioned blind obedience not allowing people to think or study the Word for themselves under threat of a curse if called into question about what they teach, with superstitious ‘buzz’ words, “touch not my anointed” “he thats without sin” “take your mouth off the ‘Man of God’” and “only God can judge, just pray about it” (their favorite defense when a scandal breaks out).

Any bible literate believer is considered a threat and ostracized by the congregation; this so-called gospel is dangerous, cultic and the doctrine of demons. It calls “bitter sweet and sweet bitter”

The God of this movement is not sovereign, but a “failure” who needs mans permission to operate on earth and dependent on the “Force of Faith” to do anything…

The Jesus of this movement is ‘just a anointed man’ who grew into his godhood (at age 30)…who’s blood shed on the cross was not sufficient…who went to hell for 3 days and became ‘born again’…

The Spirit of this movement is constantly giving “revelation knowledge” to the select few that contradicts “the faith once for all delivered to the saints” and is unable to produce Holiness in the lives of its people…

Beware of the false shepherds! Jesus said I Am the true shepherd “my sheep know My voice, and follow me, a stranger they will not listen to!” -John chap 10″

MY RESPONSE WAS…… “Jerry, I just now got to read your comments. Dude, that was awesome. I’ll have to use that. TY so much. And your reference to atheist makes me think of this post that makes a contrasting and great point, it is a little rant about the PG and drug dealers and such……

“I walk through the ‘hood and checkout the Drug Dealer; he has CARS, PROPERTY, and MONEY. I checkout the PROSTITUTE; she has DESIGNER CLOTHING, JEWELRY, LAVISH LIVING QUARTERS, and MONEY. I checkout the PIMP; he’s STACKING WEALTH, PROPERTY, CARS, and PRESTIGE. I checkout the HUSTLERS of the UNDERWORLD (conmen, thieves, robbers, thugs, gangsters and killers) of INFAMY and SIN; they’re ALL packing, stacking and strapped with MONEY, POSSESSIONS and MATERIALISM.

All of these KNOWN SINNERS have all of what they have – and WITHOUT even acknowledging God in the least! So what can the PROSPERITY DOCTRINE do for them? Get them SAVED? Get them REDEEMED? Help them LIVE HOLY? What about get them CLOSER to God? What, NONE of these? If that’s the case, then we have to CONFESS that this DEMONIC PROSPERITY DOCTRINE being PREACHED by the FALSE PROPHETS and FALSE PREACHERS is SPIRITUALLY WORTHLESS! Why would God be INTERESTED in PUSHING and PROMOTING something that can be ACQUIRED WITHOUT Him? He said He won’t SHARE His Glory with another.

But we KNOW that the Gospel of Jesus Christ that leads to SALVATION is for EVERYBODY, of EVERY RACE, of EVERY BACKGROUND, and of EVERY WALK OF LIFE!!! Christians, it’s time to ERADICATE this POISONOUS doctrine out of the Body of Christ and RETURN back to our FIRST LOVE and REPEAT our FIRST WORKS over again that the Body of Christ was FOUNDATIONED upon!!!”

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2012/02/28/excellent-rant-on-the-prosperity-gospel-drug-dealers-prostitutes-pimps-and-hustlers/

AND THAT IS WHY THE PG IS SO DEADLY, in the eternal sense of the word. All an atheist has to do is start calling himself a Christian and going to church every once in awhile and NOTHING HAS TO CHANGE, and he can go on pursuing the same thing that has always interested him and enslaved his passions,,, HIMSELF and HIS DESIRES. But now he is told that seeking after self is what God wants, in a very very subtle way, and now God is on his side and will even help him to be even more selfish and self centered and motivated. “GOD IS FOR YOU, AND IT IS ALL ABOUT YOU AND NOW THAT GOD IS ON YOUR SIDE, LIVE IT UP BECAUSE YOU WANT, NEED AND DESERVE TO HAVE YOUR BEST LIFE NOW: – even if it means your life here will be better than your eternal one.”

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 4, 2013

Liberal Washington Post gets it right on the Prosperity Gospel

prosperity-gospelTHE WORSE IDEAS OF THE DECADE – The Prosperity Gospel by Cathleen Falsani

In the Gospel of Saint Matthew, we are told that Jesus said, “You cannot serve both God and money” and, “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

The “prosperity gospel,” an insipid heresy whose popularity among American Christians has boomed in recent years, teaches that God blesses those God favors most with material wealth.

The ministries of three televangelists commonly viewed as founders of the prosperity gospel movement – Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland and Frederick K.C. Price – took hold in the 1970s and 1980s. One of the oldest and best-known proponents of prosperity theology, Oral Roberts – the television faith-healer who in 1987 told his flock that God would call him home if he didn’t raise $8 million in a matter of weeks – died at 91 last week.

But the past decade has seen this pernicious doctrine proliferate in more mainstream circles. Joel Osteen, the 46-year-old head of Lakewood Church in Houston, has a TV ministry that reaches more than 7 million viewers, and his 2004 book “Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential,” has sold millions of copies. “God wants us to prosper financially, to have plenty of money, to fulfill the destiny He has laid out for us,” Osteen wrote in a 2005 letter to his flock.

As crass as that may sound, Osteen’s version of the prosperity gospel is more gentle (and decidedly less sweaty) than those preached by such co-religionists as Benny Hinn, T.D. Jakes and the appropriately named Creflo Dollar.

Few theological ideas ring more dissonant with the harmony of orthodox Christianity than a focus on storing up treasures on Earth as a primary goal of faithful living. The gospel of prosperity turns Christianity into a vapid bless-me club, with a doctrine that amounts to little more than spiritual magical thinking: If you pray the right way, God will make you rich.

But if you’re not rich, then what? Are the poor cursed by God because of their unfaithfulness? And if God were so concerned about 401(k)s and Mercedes, why would God’s son have been born into poverty?

Nowhere has the prosperity gospel flourished more than among the poor and the working class. Told that wealth is a sign of God’s grace and favor, followers strive for trappings of luxury they can little afford in an effort to prove that they are blessed spiritually. Some critics have gone so far as to place part of the blame for the past decade’s spending binge and foreclosure crisis at the foot of the prosperity gospel’s altar.

Jesus was born poor, and he died poor. During his earthly tenure, he spoke time and again about the importance of spiritual wealth and health. When he talked about material wealth, it was usually part of a cautionary tale.

Cathleen Falsani is the religion columnist for the Chicago Sun-Times and the author of “The Dude Abides: The Gospel According to the Coen Brothers.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/opinions/outlook/worst-ideas/prosperity-gospel.html

This very good article was posted here on this blog yesterday under another title. But to try and get this article into as many hands as possible I am giving it another title and re-posting it. If you follow Joel Osteen and/or Joyce Meyers, you may not even be aware that they are part of The Word of Faith Movement; that is the focus of this group-blog of mostly ex-Word of Faithers. So please read the article and if you find the articles assertions to be even a little true, please read more on this blog and especially read some of the Ex-Word of Faith testimonies on our Testimony Page.

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Another View: The ‘prosperity gospel’ and the Super Bowl

When it comes to this weekend’s Super Bowl, 3 in 10 Americans are betting on God. A new study by the Public Religion Research Institute found that one-third of the country believes that God plays a role in determining which team wins.

Americans are even more certain about the players themselves. A majority believe that God rewards individual athletes who are faithful to God with good health and success.

This kind of thinking about faith and success follows a broader religious trend. Over the last 50 years, American Christians have gravitated toward spiritual explanations for why winners deserve their rewards. The default rationalizations — Good things happen to good people! Everything happens for a reason! — are no longer simply cliches. They are the theological bedrock for one of the most popular contemporary movements — the American prosperity gospel.

Millions of American Christians now agree that faith brings health, wealth and victory. This movement, which began in the Pentecostal revivals of the post-World War II years, has become a commonplace theological framework for how faith works to secure God’s blessings.

For the past eight years, I have studied the American prosperity gospel. Basically, it contends that believers must learn to speak positive words (called “positive confessions”) to unleash spiritual forces that move God to act. Faithful people can know that their prayers and actions are working by their effects: a healthy body, a rising bank account, an ability to overcome life’s obstacles. The pursuit of happiness is no longer simply an inalienable right. It’s a divine mandate.

When people say that God rewards certain teams or athletes, their opinions usually reflect a range of explanations — from “hard prosperity” to “soft prosperity” — for how people earn wins or losses.

Hard prosperity draws a straight line between the believer’s faith to his circumstances. Did a player tithe 10 percent of his income? Did an unspoken sin block his prayers?

When life does not go as planned, Christians learn to comb through their own histories to find the source of their problem. Atlanta televangelist Creflo Dollar urged his 30,000-member World Changers Church International to uncover the spiritual causes to their poverty, sickness or failures. “Stop making excuses,” he argued. “You are the only one hindering your progress.” When life’s scoreboard looks grim, they had only themselves to blame.

Soft prosperity loosely equates faithfulness and success, allowing for temporary setbacks on the steady march to victory. Joel Osteen, senior pastor of America’s largest church, has made a career of encouraging people to embrace their identity as victors. His weekly television audiences of seven million tune in to hear his message of unstoppable success: “You were born to win; you were born for greatness; you were created to be a champion in life.”

When the Baltimore Ravens face off against the San Francisco 49ers, more and more Americans will be looking for something beyond skill or luck. They are looking for that unseen divine guarantee that separates the masses from the faith-filled few. The prosperity gospel dubbed it “favor.”

“It’s that feeling,” said Florida televangelist Paula White, “that God is on your side.”

And as America’s most-watched sport is now punctuated by mid-field prayers, heaven-directed touchdown dances and a Tim Tebow-inspired bended knee (now officially trademarked), this won’t be the last Sunday when the country is looking for a divine way to predict a winner.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20130202/OPINION01/302020040/-1/SPORTS09/Another-View-prosperity-gospel-Super-Bowl

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Ex-Word of Faith Testimony of a Joyce Meyers Follower

Is Joyce Meyers a Word of Faith Teacher? Does She teach Word of Faith Doctrine?

Finding a Church after leaving The Word of Faith Movement

Ex-Faith Healer Mark Haville Explains The Tricks of the Fake Faith Healing Trade

PICTURES of Joel Osteen’s 10.5 Million Dollar River Oaks Mansion

SOME OF THE FALSE DOCTRINES THAT CHRISTIANS MUST CONTEND AGAINST.

AND OUR TESTIMONY PAGE

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Another View: The ‘prosperity gospel’ and the Super Bowl

When it comes to this weekend’s Super Bowl, 3 in 10 Americans are betting on God. A new study by the Public Religion Research Institute found that one-third of the country believes that God plays a role in determining which team wins.

Americans are even more certain about the players themselves. A majority believe that God rewards individual athletes who are faithful to God with good health and success.

This kind of thinking about faith and success follows a broader religious trend. Over the last 50 years, American Christians have gravitated toward spiritual explanations for why winners deserve their rewards. The default rationalizations — Good things happen to good people! Everything happens for a reason! — are no longer simply cliches. They are the theological bedrock for one of the most popular contemporary movements — the American prosperity gospel.

Millions of American Christians now agree that faith brings health, wealth and victory. This movement, which began in the Pentecostal revivals of the post-World War II years, has become a commonplace theological framework for how faith works to secure God’s blessings.

For the past eight years, I have studied the American prosperity gospel. Basically, it contends that believers must learn to speak positive words (called “positive confessions”) to unleash spiritual forces that move God to act. Faithful people can know that their prayers and actions are working by their effects: a healthy body, a rising bank account, an ability to overcome life’s obstacles. The pursuit of happiness is no longer simply an inalienable right. It’s a divine mandate.

When people say that God rewards certain teams or athletes, their opinions usually reflect a range of explanations — from “hard prosperity” to “soft prosperity” — for how people earn wins or losses.

Hard prosperity draws a straight line between the believer’s faith to his circumstances. Did a player tithe 10 percent of his income? Did an unspoken sin block his prayers?

When life does not go as planned, Christians learn to comb through their own histories to find the source of their problem. Atlanta televangelist Creflo Dollar urged his 30,000-member World Changers Church International to uncover the spiritual causes to their poverty, sickness or failures. “Stop making excuses,” he argued. “You are the only one hindering your progress.” When life’s scoreboard looks grim, they had only themselves to blame.

Soft prosperity loosely equates faithfulness and success, allowing for temporary setbacks on the steady march to victory. Joel Osteen, senior pastor of America’s largest church, has made a career of encouraging people to embrace their identity as victors. His weekly television audiences of seven million tune in to hear his message of unstoppable success: “You were born to win; you were born for greatness; you were created to be a champion in life.”

When the Baltimore Ravens face off against the San Francisco 49ers, more and more Americans will be looking for something beyond skill or luck. They are looking for that unseen divine guarantee that separates the masses from the faith-filled few. The prosperity gospel dubbed it “favor.”

“It’s that feeling,” said Florida televangelist Paula White, “that God is on your side.”

And as America’s most-watched sport is now punctuated by mid-field prayers, heaven-directed touchdown dances and a Tim Tebow-inspired bended knee (now officially trademarked), this won’t be the last Sunday when the country is looking for a divine way to predict a winner.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20130202/OPINION01/302020040/-1/SPORTS09/Another-View-prosperity-gospel-Super-Bowl

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 2, 2013

Finding a Church after leaving The Word of Faith Movement

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I stumbled upon this article and found it interesting and thought many of the readers here could relate to it even though the author is Ex-Charismatic, with no indication that his charismatic church was also Word of Faith. But the feelings he spoke of are common to all Ex-Wofers who leave WoF churches as it really does feel like “detoxing” when you leave a WoF church and the movement. And there is always a long deprogramming process involved that most Ex-Wofers say can take years and years. And after years of weekly attending a big production with big loud hypnotizing music and lights, a little old boring country church just does not sound very exciting and fulfilling at first.

Because I have been to more bad churches than good churches, and know it can be a dangerous and stressful situation, I never come down hard on Ex-WoFers for not wanting to go to church again for awhile, or maybe even never again, and I always suggest they find other Ex-Wofers to confide in – but I never tell them they have to go back to church, especially soon. But I ALWAYS do advise that we all should eventually get back to serving The Lord in a Corporal Church Body – just because it is good for us to do so. So if your reading this and struggling to find the will to get back into church, please read the following and give it some more thought, maybe it is time now, or soon, to give it a shot.

We are creatures of habit and once we get used to “regular” church, the “better” churches seem just so “way out there”. GIVE IT A CHANCE, you just might learn to really love non-Word of Faith Church.

Finding a church after leaving Charismania

One of the subtle lies of the charismatic church is that there’s a perfect way, a better understanding, a purer worship, a more insightful teaching to be found in their fellowship. They hook people this way, offering prime real estate, so to speak—the best of God.

The result is that most who buy into this lie find it difficult or impossible to return to “normal” church again.

They are addicted to the music for the most part—loud, hypnotic, and repetitive—having no understanding of how music can manipulate the human brain into believing it has had an in-depth religious experience. The sixties drug culture employed it well.

They are addicted to the entertainment they receive in church. Services are designed—complete with special lighting and, in some cases, smoke machines—to reach into the hearts and minds of men and move them—for God, of course. But with pounding music, emotionally charged videos and dramatic sermons by hip and happening front men that “still small voice” becomes unnecessary.

Yet God does not abandon His own. In the quiet moments through the week, that Voice was the one that led you out.

And now you don’t know where to go to church. All other churches seem dry, the worship lifeless. You are like a junky needing a fix but knowing the drug holds no nourishment.

Hurt from the emotional pounding you endured just to break free (your so-called church friends think you are on the wrong path and quickly forget you); you resolve not to trust any church. You can stay in this place, alone, a kind of controlled self-protection. But that verse about forsaking the fellowship nags.

I don’t have your answer, other than to say detoxify yourself. God is not a sugar ball you shoot into your veins on Sunday. Get back to basics. Read the Bible, find a place to serve after you’ve had some healing, get down and wash others’ feet and lose sight of yourself and what you want. You can always dance to loud worship music in your living room.

I was fortunate to plug back into my childhood church. The people accepted me back without judgment, even though this is the same church I spurned as “too controlled” in my search for “More!” It is still a bit more controlled than I like (there’s this rush to get the first service finished before we create a traffic jam with the incoming second service.) But we are humans frail in our ways seeking the grace of a loving God.

This frailty, this lack of knowing it all, allows me to feel safe. I am not manipulated by the music or the preacher. (I am not told to tithe or God won’t bless me!) I am advised to read the Bible through the week and look for God in the people and happenings of the everyday, to serve as Christ served. Now, I teach Junior High Sunday School and hope one sentence captures the bunny trails of their minds.

What I like about this place is its motto: We are disciples of Jesus Christ, encouraging all people to become His fully devoted followers.

Now I learn how to be and become more like Jesus. I am not being entertained. I am being transformed, fueled by a commitment, a focus, who is Christ. It’s a process, a journey of ups and downs, but my God is patient and full of grace, compassionate and loving. He takes me in and receives me as His own.

http://theagonyofvictory.wordpress.com/2012/03/16/finding-a-church-after-leaving-charismania/

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I was blessed to find a brand new blog via Google Alerts when the author, a Baptist Missionary in Africa, Seth Meyers posted the following list of 9 Problems with the Problems of The Prosperity Gospel.

  1. The prosperity gospel is not the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
  2. The prosperity gospel urges sinners to commit idolatry.
  3. The prosperity gospel denies God’s sovereign purposes for pain as revealed in Scripture.
  4. The prosperity gospel ignores Biblical teaching on wealth.
  5. The prosperity gospel discourages logical thought about the Bible, a work ethic, sickness, economics, and politics.
  6. The prosperity gospel requires other heresies to support it such as deification and positive confession.
  7. The prosperity gospel inoculates people from hearing the truth because they think they already know Gospel.
  8. The prosperity gospel has never been accepted in the Christian church until the 1980’s.
  9. The prosperity gospel contradicts the lives of the many godly but poor believers in the Bible and history.

comment belowWhen reading the list, as I got down to point #7, I thought that was the most salient and important point listed yet. After finishing I thought the list was a great start but neglected the most important point and that is the inference drawn in point 7 that because of the Prosperity Gospel some people think they are Christian and saved but they are not because they do not even know the true gospel of Jesus Christ as listed in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

So since I felt a need to try and reach some of these people with the true gospel and I have not written an original article for this site in a long time I thought I would use Seth’s list as a starting point for such an article and ask you guys, the readers and subscribers of this blog, to help me write an article. And since I know first hand, from previously running a support group and participating other such support groups for Ex-Word of Faithers, the importance and value of ex-Word of Faithers getting to know other Ex-Word of Faithers – I thought it would be a great idea to have a open thread and discussion about the Problems of the Prosperity Gospel here so that we all might get to interacting with each other and someone who is trying to recover and deprogram from Word of faith teachings would have a chance to get to know others they can confide with. And I hope this post will do just that.

So I am opening Comments on this post asking you to please participate. You can either add a point to the list or expound upon any point already made in the list. And in about two weeks I will spend a couple of hours writing an article based on all we have discussed about the Problems with The Prosperity Gospel. And hopefully it will help others and might even help to get someone saved. I will put some thought into this and start putting my thoughts in the threaded comment section below. I hope you will do the same.

Thanks so much,
And be more blessed,
Damon Whitsell

PROSPERITY theology main issue
For about three years I spent most of my time finding great articles on the Word of Faith Movement and re-posting them here on this blog, and I enjoyed writing my own articles too. But about a year ago The Lord called me to focus most of time studying and exposing the evils and dangers of Islam and I have not posted daily here since then. But before I started to focus on Islam I started using Google Alerts as my virtual personal research assistant (please see this video to see how wonderfully useful it is using Google Alerts in this way), so I still get the Google Alerts I started on the Word of Faith and it’s related sub-topics and keywords – and that is how I found this new blog that looks like it will be a great one.

The blog had just started and it is by a Baptist Missionary in Africa. I got a Google Alert when the Missionary Seth Meyers posted this article on the Problems of the Prosperity Gospel at his brand new Son of Cary Blog. I contacted Seth and ask him if I could re-post and use his article to start an Open Thread on this blog discussing Problems with the Prosperity using his list,. And I asked him if in the future he might be writing on the Prosperity Gospel in Africa from a Baptist Missionary perspective and he said yes he would. Well the following article is just the kind of writings I hoped Seth would write,, a first hand account highlighting the damaging effect the Word of Faith movement and its deadly cousin the Prosperity Gospel are having in Africa. Please read and share the following article by Seth and also participate in our Open Discussion Thread that we started using Seth’s article on the topic of Problems of the Prosperity Gospel - in about a week I will be taking the things learned, observed and expounded upon in that thread to write as good of an article as I can on the topic, so I hope you guys will help out and participate in that discussion. And that we can interact with each other will be great too.

Observations from a Recent Prosperity Gospel Crusade in Our Village

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Before the Preaching

  • Before the preaching: An elder in his church had told me the day before (Wed.) that they were most aligned with Benny Hinn and Kenneth Hagin.
  • Before the preaching I asked a lay elder what were the most important methods for building a church. He answered quickly and confidently that the music was the most important. By music he meant loud speakers and drums. When I pressed him for more methods that were essential to planting a church, he replied, “Heal people.”
  • Before the preaching, the pastor stayed in his Mercedes which was parked in a visible location.

Pulpit Manner

  • In a poor village, he made sure to preach from an iPad, and keep it visible throughout the show.
  • He was a Venda, but he preached in English and had a translator into Venda. Our village is probably 80% Tsonga.
  • He wore a lapel mic, but had to ask for a hand held because he said needed “more power.”
  • He wiped his mouth and entire face with his hankie repeatedly even though it was a chilly night, and there was no visible sweat on his face.
  • After he got going, he did not mind cutting off the translator.
  • He called repeatedly for “Amens, Heys, and Hi” from the crowd.
  • Toward the end, he ran several times around the table frantically.
  • In one illustration, he danced, turned his back to the audience, and shook his rear end as the crowd cheered.
  • Near the end of his sermon, he noticeably touched his translator—a woman—on the chest.

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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | February 1, 2013

Inner Healing – Christian or Occult?

Damon Whitsell:

I know many of the subscribers and friends to this blog are also subscribers and friends to Mkayla and her awesome blog, but even though this great article is not directly related the WoF, I wanted to give those who are not subbed to sister MK and her blog a chance to read this. I been studying cults and psychology for a long time and I learned quite a bit reading it. And the writing made me so happy and thankful that while the Lord has not given me complete victory of my own emotional problems and life struggles yet,, he has blessed me with the good sense and discernment to know that when i get really down, desperate and needy I am left very vulnerable and need to be careful of what I intake into my soul. While reading this I thought, man it is real nice to get such a reminder to be careful of all the dangerous stuff out there when I am not my usual self. PLEASE READ THIS ARTICLE AND BE CAREFUL OUT THERE YA’LL, the enemy is roaming seeking whom he may devour and we must be wise as serpents.

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Having been trained as a SOZO minister I know the dangers it presents first hand. The following is a well written article which relates to SOZO (Christianized inner healing with no basis in scripture.) 

I know there are many of you out there with questions and concerns. I hope this helps shed some light on its origins and why we need to stay away. Christ is sufficient for all our needs. Every one of them.

Inner Healing/Healing of Memories

Christian or Occult?*

–  Healing of the memories, or inner healing, or healing of the emotions has its roots in the teachings of anti-Christian and occultist, Agnes Sanford. It was carried on after her death by those she influenced, such as lay therapists Ruth Carter Stapleton (deceased sister of Jimmy Carter), Rosalind Rinker, John and Paula Sandford (currently of Elijah House, a demon-deliverance and memory healing center in Port Falls, Idaho)…

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This post over at Urban Truth Network is worth reblogging. T.D. Jakes and Joel Osteen are teaming up with Oprah to teach Christians what the Christian life is all about. What do you think the outcome will be? READ THE POST HERE —->>> Authors of Confusion Pt. 25 – Oprah’s “Life Class”.

Tim Martin of Watchman Fellowship answers those questions this way in his video description: “Many people are suprised when they hear that Joyce Meyer is a Word of Faith teacher. She does not focus on health and wealth, so why would people say this? Actually, Joyce does agree with, and teaches most all of the distinctive Word Faith doctrines. If you are not sure, this video will convince”.

And I agree both that Meyers is Word of Faith and that many people who listen to her would think she is not Word of Faith. But the bottom line is that SHE DOES teach Word of Faith doctrines. Tim classifies Meyers as what he calls a “New School Word of Faith Teacher”. By this he means that while they might not harp on and focus on Word of Faith doctrines all the time, they definitely do teach Word of Faith teachings and their overall biblical and worldview is based on Word of Faith teachings. Other Word of Faith teachers who fall into Tims “New School Word of Faith Teacher” category would be Joel Osteen and John Hagee. I really like and think it helpful the way Tim distinguishes between the two types of Word of Faith teachers.

Tim is also the producer of the BEST VIDEO SERIES REFUTING WORD OF FAITH TEACHING WE HAVE ON THIS BLOG. It is an awesome series and I wish we could get all Christians and all Word of Faithers to watch it. So please watch and share the series with everyone you know, especially Wofers.

Here is Tims 30 minute video examining Joyce Meyers teachings.

 

And here is a testimony from an Ex Joyce Meyers follower. This is one of our over 50 ex-Word of Faith Testimonies that we have on OUR TESTIMONY PAGE

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Bill, you say that Joyce Meyer doesn’t run a cult, otherwise you wouldn’t be in it. Let me say that the people who are in cults think the same way! Nobody likes to think that they have been deceived,. They want to think they are smart enough to know better. I assure you that if Joyce Meyer teaches the prosperity gospel or that Jesus went to hell so you wouldn’t have to (and she does!), then she IS running a cult, and if you are supporting her, then YOU ARE in a cult and you don’t even know it!

What’s more, there is probably nothing anyone here can say to you that will convince you otherwise, and I for one will not attempt to do so. All anyone here can do for you is speak the truth. It’s up to God and you from there. If God can’t take some of what we say here and get it through to you, then you cannot be reached sir.

A few years ago, I supported Joyce Meyer with everything I had. I regarded her as a true, down to earth, sincere, and prosperous role model. I hung on every word that came out of her mouth as if they were the words of God straight to me. I never missed a show, and if I did, I watched her internet broadcasts. When she held her conferences in my area, I went to see her in person. I would do as she said to prove my commitment to God and take vacation days and drive 3 hours to Tulsa to see her preach at the ORU campus and drive 3 hours back home, justifying myself to God by reminding Him of these sacrifices.

Talking about sacrifice, not only did I give up a day’s pay to see her, but it was nothing for me to sacrifice $100 or more into the white buckets they’d pass around as offering plates, knowing all along that I’d have to sacrifice again when I didn’t have that money to pay a bill with! That, in addition to the hundreds of dollars I’d send her through the mail every month! In the typical Word of Faith fashion, I would then go to God in “prayer” and tell Him what He had to do (you [God] MUST keep your word; you MUST provide ‘pressed down, shaken-together’ etc; if I delight myself in you, you MUST give me the desire of my heart, ad nausea!).

Bill, that’s NOT praying! When a WoF preacher “prays” by saying “we bind you Satan, we come against all the powers of darkness, we rebuke all poverty and lack” etc, they are NOT praying to God! They are talking to the devil and speaking as if they were God Himself. It is NOT prayer. But I digress.

I absolutely LOVED Joyce Meyer! But God had other plans for me. I was DEEP into the Word of Faith . It was all I had ever known all my life. My grandmother latched onto the seed faith teachings of Oral Roberts back when it first came out. She taught my mother in the ways of the WoF, and my mother in turn taught us the same way!

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WARNING SIGNS

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12 WARNING SIGNS OF A DANGEROUS CHURCH by Pastor Kevin Shell

by Kevin Shell on Saturday, May 26, 2012 at 3:00am ·

With the rise of mega churches everywhere and there being some kind of church literally on every street corner in America. A sobering question comes to the forefront that begs to be answered. Has God actually entrusted every mega church and every church that’s on every street corner in America to represent Him? The following are 12 WARNING SIGNS OF A DANGEROUS CHURCH. Prayerfully this will help those that are fatally attracted to the false bride that masquerades itself as Christ bride and TRUE CHURCH.

2 Timothy 4:2-4 2 Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage —with great patience and careful instruction. 3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

1. A COMPROMISED GOSPEL – If there’s an absence of preaching Christ and Him crucified, His atoning sacrifice on Calvary, justification through faith, repentance, and other important essentials that encompass God’s plan of salvation, and an authentic walk with Christ after salvation that produces biblical fruit then this could be a MAJOR WARNING SIGN that this isn’t a church that you want to plant your family in… In other words if THE GOSPEL is being compromised with false teaching, easy- believism, or constant miracle and musical services, don’t be like that silly family in scary movies that stays in the house even after it hears a voice from somewhere telling them to GET OUT!!! This isn’t a movie this is your life and you and your family’s eternal souls are what’s at stake. Regardless of how large or small the ministry is you can safely conclude that if the gospel has been compromised, trust and believe; there are other compromises…Its time for you and your family to GET TO STEPPIN! The Gospel is NON-NEGOTIABLE!!!

2.ABSENCE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT – The Holy Spirits presence and power is vital to getting Gods business accomplished in and through men. Contrary to popular opinion great music and emotionalism have little to do with whether The Holy Spirit is present or not. His presence brings forth TRUTH, CONVICTION OF SIN, HEALING, POWER and RENEWAL. His absence leaves men to attempt to carry out Gods work inside and outside the church in their own strength. If you’re in a church where the Holy Spirits presence is absent and there’s only a form of godliness and powerless religion, be on guard! It won’t get better as you’ll see!

3.ABSOLUTE AUTHORITARIANISM – If you’re in a church where the pastor is a controlling God figure that can’t be questioned, nor approached without old testament armor-bearers, you may not even be in what most of us consider a church. You may be in a CULT! This can partially explain the absence of the Holy Spirit! If this behavior is followed up by things like the pastor having a say in where you go, whether it’s a good time for you and your wife to have children (yes this happens), and having to know how much money you make, this is not of God. This type of abuse of spiritual authority is found in many churches, and should not be taken lightly, nor be mistaken for loving accountability. In these types of churches the pastor’s sense of self-worth is tied up in how well he can control the congregation. Sexual abuse is also common in these types of ministries. When the ruler eventually gets wind that you and your family are leaving, you’ll be told that you’ll be cursed with a curse and that a fiery inferno awaits you and your family on the other side of the church doors. It’s also typical that all former members are the enemy and were wrong for leaving and are to be shunned. Just know that these environments thrive on ignorance of the Word of God and fear. Know also that if you didn’t see a fiery inferno on the way in, you can leave out of the same door with a Godly assurance that your heavenly father will lead you to a healthy church.

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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | January 22, 2013

SUNDAY MORNING CHRISTIANS and the GET RICH QUICK JESUS

SUNDAY MORNING CHRISTIANS by “Rambling” Steve Downing — From the CD “So Far Away From Home” (The Arizona Years) 1987-1994 — UPLOADED BY DAMON WHITSELL

***LISTEN CLOSELY TO THE WORDS IN THIS BEAUTIFUL SONG***

******* If you can listen to this song and not get convicted about something, you might or might not be a real Christian*******

A bass player freind and me were hosting an open mic at the End Of The Trail bar in Pearland Texas and this big ole boy that looked a little like Jesus came in and checked us out and went back to his car to get his guitar. I’m glad he came back because he rocked balls for a country boy and was a very kool dude. I got to play with him 6-8 times and I really enjoyed it. The second time I heard this song I was playing the drums and listening along and checking out what he was signing about. Then there was one line that reminded me of my son and I began to cry and struggled to keep a simple four quarter beat for the rest of the song.

Since then the song has become one of my favorites even though I am not much into country music, but this is old style country music and IT WILL HIT YA RIGHT IN THE HEART WITH CONVICTION – especially if your just a pew warming Sunday Morning Christian. This song will evoke self examination in us all as we need to all ask ourselves,, are we really in the faith,, can our faith stand the test and is it strong enough to carry crosses and to fight the Good Fight.

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HERE IS A GREAT ARTICLE I JUST READ TODAY………

Jesus A Get Rich Scheme? (A MUST READ!) Posted by

“How would you like to live forever?” yelled the pastor on TV, “Wouldn’t you like to be forgiven of your sins and given a fresh start? Don’t you want to spend eternity in paradise instead of burning in hell? Or claim the wealth and health God has for you?” The pastor relentlessly continued, “Then all you have to do is believe in Jesus, ask him into your life, and all this will be yours!”

I felt as if I had just been sold Jesus. I mean, who wouldn’t want that? To be wealthy, healthy, forgiven, not go to hell, and live in paradise! It’s a dream come true! But my heart couldn’t help but think of the hundreds of people who just signed onto to this ‘get rich scheme.’ Many had been fooled into making a decision for Jesus, but few of them had actually committed to Him. This is not the way it was meant to be. Jesus is not some prize to be won. We can’t just believe in him and then go about our lives as usual. It doesn’t work that way. Yes, the Scripture in the Bible says that all you have to do is believe to be saved (Romans 10:9), but it doesn’t stop there. Not only are we to believe, but belief comes with actions, verbal actions, and actions showing the sincerity of heart…

“ So you see, faith by itself isn’t enough. Unless it produces good deeds, it is dead and useless.” James 2:17

Faith without works is nothing but dead faith. In other words, if you accepted Jesus with the words of your mouth and fell for one of those, ‘get rich schemes’ on TV, and little to nothing changed in your life. Then I have to ask you, did you really commit your life to Jesus or did you just say some fancy words?

You see, many people call themselves Christians but in truth, have fallen for the schemes of a few pastors. These people have made a decision for Jesus, but not a real commitment to him. In reality, you can’t have one without the other. If you are one of those, who have only made a decision for Jesus, then you need to ask yourself are you truly His?

Let me put it this way. Lets say a volcanologist (someone who studies volcanoes) came to your house and told you that in a few weeks a volcano was going to erupt near your home and that you needed to evacuate the premises; otherwise you and your house would be destroyed. He even showed you the paperwork and proved what was going to happen. You kindly and sincerely thank the gentleman, and acknowledge that you believed him, and told him you would be evacuating soon. But as time went on you lived life as usual. Sure you bought a few water jugs and stocked up on a day or two of food, but none of that could actually help you when the volcano erupted. Weeks passed and sure enough the day of the eruption was at hand and just as the volcanologist predicted, the volcano erupted. But it was too late.

You see, that person stated with their mouth that they believed the volcanologist, but at heart level they did not believe. Why? Because there were no actions to back up that belief. If they had truly believed they would have gotten the heck out of there. But instead they made a ‘decision’ to believe and not an actual commitment. Thus it is with many ‘Christians’ today who say Jesus is their Lord. They decide to believe Jesus, but have not committed to him.

The true cost of following Jesus involves more than just believing in Him. The Scripture is full of evidence for this. Did you know that in the Gospels the word, “believe,” is only used five times. While the word, “follow me,” is used about twenty times. Meaning Jesus wants us to not only believe, but to be followers of him. For if your words hold value, and you made the decision for Jesus, then your actions will back that up.

When you give your life to Jesus you’re not just handing over a verbal statement, you are handing over your life. Did you hear that, your LIFE! That’s huge! Meaning there will be sacrifices, trials, and things that have to change. A true follower of Jesus means you will have a transformed life.

“Whoever does not bear his own cross and come after me, cannot be my disciple.” Luke 14:27

When Jesus made this statement there were crowds of people listening. He didn’t say………..

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http://realityofchrist.me/2013/01/21/jesus-a-get-rich-scheme-a-must-read/

IF YOU Watch, Listen To or Read the likes of Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyers, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar and other Word of Faith Teachers – you might want to watch this video and listen to Dr. Steve Tsoukalas here as he discusses and appraises the Word of Faith movement from a biblical and theological perspective.

LISTEN TO THIS FROM ANOTHER BLOGGER WHO POSTED THIS VIDEO: Wednesday Afternoon Cults! The Word of Faith Movement! by hamiltonmj1983

“I want to show a short video here, put out by a group called Seedbed that I have mentioned here before (they are associated with Asbury Theological Seminary, where I received my MA in Biblical Studies). In this video, Dr. Steven Tsoukalas (the husband of one of my very favorite professors of all time, Dr. Sandra Richter) explains how the Word of Faith Movement made popular by Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin, and others, is contrary to biblical faith and is not Christianity, but a cult loosely based on some of the ideas within Christianity. Enjoy!”

PLEASE SHARE THIS VIDEO AND PASS IT ON TO THOSE YOU KNOW THAT ARE DECEIVED BY WORD OF FAITH TEACHERS AND TEACHINGS.

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This testimony is just awesome. Kevin Rhodes of ITCHING EARS site just got a BRAND NEW WEBSITE and sent me this new testimony. And I just read one of his newer writings on forgiveness and it was outstanding. Give Kevin a visit, shout out and bookmark with another future visit. He went from using FREEWEBS to WORDPRESS.COM – and he loves it. DON’T MISS HIS TOPICAL HEADER MENU as Kevin is using WordPress both as a blog and site/CMS. So why not read his blogpost too while your there and subscribe to his future posting. If Kevin’s future writings are as good as this one,, you will not want to miss them – Damon Whitsell

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The spiritual journey became alive in me at the age of 17. Prior to that time life was average, church occasionally, prayer occasionally, and sin a regular lifestyle. I knew of God through friends and family but did not KNOW him.

Soon after accepting, my friends and I began our spiritual walks with Christ and started attending a local church. Coincidentally, a vacation bible school was going on and we were able tell the leaders what great things God and Jesus was doing in our lives. We were given tremendous freedom by the people there to share on a regular basis what God was doing. Several ministers allowed us to accompany them in their ministries and share at revivals.

As time progressed, my friends and I could not get enough of God’s word. We loved what God had done and wanted to know more. We would attend any church service and constantly listen to Christian TV and radio. Sometimes we were greatly encouraged and sometimes not due to varying doctrines.

Unfortunately we did not know how to study our bibles and would pick parts of verses to make our creeds. Some of our leaders would not understand how in the world we came to the conclusions we came to. We did so in the name of “revelation”.

Through a few other friends, we were presented with an opportunity to go to another church youth group on Thursday nights. There were lots of young people there, something that we did not have much of at our services. We began to regularly attend, while still being committed to our home base.

As time passed, we were interested in the new churches’ services and went a few times. They were much more contemporary than the home churches’ services. At the home church, the worship had a country feel or sound.

I went one day and expressed to the pastor at the new congregation of a desire to possibly begin attending.

The home congregation, although reluctant, allowed us to follow our desires and try the other congregation. The new congregation was upbeat, lively, new. There were lots of young people, all crowded in a tiny room. It was obvious that this place had become too small for the numbers. We were happy with the new-found friends we had acquired while in the new place. We were also enamored by how busy everything and everyone was.

In a short time, minister friends of the new pastor would come or be invited to speak.

They would encourage the board members and congregation to support their ministers and their congregation by putting up money for the new building, new vehicles and a new home for the ministers (I was in agreement with this then as I still am now- We should support the needs of ministers and give). However as more ministers came, the message became very clear. In addition to biblical principles mentioned above, everyone was encouraged to give above and beyond their means for excessive things. References were even made about Solomon’s temple and those people coming from far and wide to give. Focus would be placed more on the outward appearance than on the inward.

It all came to a head one night when a friend and former roommate from college challenged me on what I was living and preaching. He would challenge me to be noble, as the Berean believers in Acts 17:11, who would search the scriptures daily to find out if what was being preached was actually true. Our conversation would spark a six-month withdrawal from activities both social and religious. It was a time in which I would fast, pray, read, and study sometimes 6 hours a day.  I would ponder these things and see that a good sixty percent of what was being preached was clearly not so. Our lives were just as excessive as our message was.

At one point, as I sat down with some colleagues and we hashed over what scripture says about the excesses of money and nonexistence of the tithe. One friend in particular said that he saw what scripture plainly pointed out but was unwilling to confront the pastor. He did not want to lose his position in the church for he had always desired to be paid as a full time minister and knew that tithing was the main source of income in that local church. It mattered more to him to conform than to confront.

Since money related issues were so emphasized, this was the majority of what was studied. Other topics would soon be researched and most often proven to be full of misinterpretations.

I present the same challenge to you. Be noble as those were in the early church. Study everything you hear according to God’s word, the final authority. Read the verses surrounding a scripture to establish the writer’s goals and to find true context. Familiarize yourself with the history of the believers especially in the book of Acts. Look closer at the transition from old covenant to new in the book of Hebrews and in the four gospels.

If you have already left a Word-of-Faith church because of abuses or false teaching, God will not abandon you. He loves you and is not finished working in you. You may feel cold, dead, alone, bitter, or condemned. These are natural feelings. They run their course. All of the bloggers here are in some way connected and feel or have felt just like you do. Keep pursuing God as your heart leads but don’t condemn yourself if you miss a month of Sundays or a decade of them. Some people heal differently than others.

Kevin Rhodes

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This is a really good post from Shawnice Powell over at the Experience In The Word Of Faith blog. I thought it would be helpful to others because it is true that to Stand For The Truth Can (and in most cases does) Mean Standing alone. I have seen it over and over again in the last three years running this site and getting to know many Ex-Word Of Faithers. So I just had to repost this article because it just tells the truth the way it is.

If your not subscribed to Shawnice’s blog, I would suggest it. And you can look her up and friend her on Facebook HERE. You may lose many people standing up against the WoF teachings and teachers,, but there sure are allot of people doing just the same thing, standing for Truth. I would highly recommend finding and befriending a few of them for co-support, guidance and council.

Standing for the Truth Can Mean Standing Alone By experiencesinwordoffaith

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Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think I would not be a member of what I formerly referred to as church. I was always involved in music or youth ministry. In the former word of faith assembly I was a praise and worship leader, involved in dance ministry, youth ministry, women’s ministry, and marriage ministry. In COGIC was a up and coming missionary!

Here I am in 2013 walking a path no one, and I mean no one, would have imagined for me.

Leaving an assembly often makes one a social pariah. Some in the organized church refer to this exclusion as shunning, dis-fellowshipping, or ex-communicating. This is not the rule, but it seems to be very common across many denominations. Some non-Christian groups are extreme in their shunning by forbidding current member from any contact from ex-members regardless of relationship (parents against children, children against parents, sibling against sibling, etc.) But, this article is not about the extremist.

Some leaders have been very bold in telling their members to not have any type of fellowship with individuals who have the audacity to depart from them. Others, not so bold. But this message is slowly sown into the minds of lost sheep by subtle manipulation.

The subtle message could be about how people do not want to submit to authority. The message could also be how your spiritual growth is based on you grasping the vision of the assembly. I heard a leader tell his followers they were not there to get the word, but to fulfill the leader’s vision. And if they got some word, that was a bonus. What an arrogant position for someone who is supposed to be a servant leader.

In cases where I’ve heard and/or experienced this behavior, it took place in an assembly where an individual leaves and they’re name is never mentioned again. Sadly, I know this for a fact because I was a perpretrator. In most organized churches, it’s a game of “follow the leader.” If the leader(s) do not mention that person’s name, you’ll learn that you shouldn’t either.

There may be individuals who’ll start speculating why someone left. Most times, the stories are salacious, negative, or down-right malicious. On top of that, throw on a sermon about surrounding yourself with like-minded individuals or saints who are at a higher level than you. Of course, you’re not going to think of the people who left. How daaaare they leave? Something must be wrong with them. But I digress.

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Leaving an assembly is one thing, but to leave and speak out against false teaching makes you a public enemy of the organized church. Once you decided to speak out against a false teacher/teaching, you need to understand that people, regardless of denomination, are going to despise you. You can and will lose long-time friendships, new friendships, potential friendships, and family. In worst cases, you can lose your spouse!

Remember, the heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked. Flesh does not want to believe his theology is compromised. Some individuals idolatrous love for the system will have them tell you to get over the deception and move on. They will tell you each person has to come to the truth on their own. It is their ignorance of scripture that leads them to think you are doing something wrong. The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few. These individuals will say Jesus is the only way with their mouth, but their lives scream of ecumenism.

These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught. Isaiah 29:13

You are not just coming against a man; you are coming against their king, their idol, and their god.

Your character and motives will be attacked. But you need to choose this day whom you will serve.

Are you willing to deny self and take up your cross? It’s past time to reject the traditions of man and stand for the simple gospel of the Christ, the Son of the living God.

Exposing Error

TEST THEM: Believe not every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they be of God; because many false prophets are gone out into the world. (I John 4: 1)

MARK AND AVOID THEM: Mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. (Rom. 16:17)

REBUKE THEM: Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith. (Titus 1: 13)

HAVE NO FELLOWSHIP WITH THEM: Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. (Ephesians 5:11)

WITHDRAW FROM THEM: We command you, brethren, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which ye received of us. (II Thes. 3:6)

TURN AWAY FROM THEM: Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. (2 Timothy 3:5)

SEPARATE FROM THEM: Come out from among them, and be ye separate and touch no the unclean thing. (II Cor. 6:17)

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http://experiencesinwordoffaith.wordpress.com/2013/01/05/standing-for-the-truth-can-mean-standing-alone/

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | December 6, 2012

The Divine Means for Sanctificantion

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The Divine Means for Sanctificantion

The divinely appointed means for sanctification are the blood of Christ, the Holy Spirit, and the Word of God.  The first provides primarily absolute and positional sanctification; it is a finished work which gives the penitent a perfect position in relation to God.  The second is internal, effecting the transforming of the believer’s nature.  The third is external and practical, dealing with the believer’s practical conduct. Thus God has made provision for both external and internal sanctification (set apart).

a)  The Blood of Christ. (Eternal, absolute, and positional.) Heb 13:12; 10:10; 1John 1:7.  In what sense is a person sanctified by the blood of Christ?  As a result of the finished work of Christ the penitent is changed from a defiled sinner into a holy worshiper.  Sanctification is the result of that “wonderous work accomplished by the Son of God when He offered Himself to put away sin by His sacrifice on Calvary. By virtue of that sacrifice the believer is forever set apart to God, his conscience is purged, and he himself is transformed from an unclean sinner into a holy worshiper, linked up in an abiding fellowship with the Lord Jesus Christ; for ‘both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one; for “which cause he is not ashamed to them brethren”  Heb 2:11. 

       That there is also a continuous aspect to sanctification by the blood is implied in 1 John 1:7; “the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.”  If there is to be fellowship between a holy God and man, there must necessarily be some provision for removing the sin that is a barrier to that fellowship, for even the best of men are imperfect.  When Isaiah received his vision of the holiness of God he was smitten with a sense of his own unholiness, and was in no condition to hear God’s message until a coal from the altar had cleansed his lips.  Consciousness of sin mars fellowship with God; Confession and faith in the eternal sacrifice of Christ removes the barrier 1 John 1:9.

b)  The Holy Spirit (Internal sanctification.) 1 Cor. 6:11; 2 thess. 2:13; 1 Pet 1:1, 2; Rom. 15:16.  In these passages sanctification by the Holy Spirit is treated as the beginning of the full knowledge of justification through faith in the blood-sprinkling of Christ.  As the Spirit brooded over the primeval chaos (Gen. 1:2), and was follwed by the Word of God bringing order so the Spirit of God broods over the regerate soul, opening it to receive the light and life of God. 2 Cor. 4:6

c)  The Word (External and practical sanctification.) John 17:17; Eph.5:26; John 15:3; Psalm 119:9; James 1:23-25.  Christians are described as having been “born of the word of God” 1Peter 1:23.  The Word of God awakens men to a realization of the folly and wickedness of their lives.  When they respond to the Word through the word which was spoken unto them.  This is the beginning of a cleansing which must continue throughout the believer’s life.  At his consecration the Israelite priest received a complete priestly bath which was never repeated; it was a a work done once for all; but he was required to wash his hands and feet daily.  In like manner the regenerate have been bathed (Titus 3:5); but there must be a daily putting away of defilements and imperfections as these are revealed by the Word of God, which is the mirror of the soul.  James 1:22-25.  He must was his hands, that is, his deeds must be right; he must wash his feet, that is, keep himself from “those earth-stains, which are so readily contracted by sandaled pilgrim feet pressing along this world’s highways.

   THE SPIRIT IN THE CHURCH

1.  The Advent of the Spirit

      The Saviour lived before His incarnation and continued to live after His ascension; but during the intervening period He exercised what we may call His dispensational or “temporal” mission, which He came into the world to fulfill, and having accomplished it, He returned to the Father.  So the Spirit came into the world at an appointed time for a definite mission and will leave when His mission is accomplished.  He came to earth not only for an appointed purpose but also for an appointed time.

       There are three major dispensations in the Scriptures corresponding to the Three Persons of the Godhead.  The Old testament is the dispensation of the Father; Christ’s earthly ministry is the dispensation of the Son; and the age beginning between the ascension and the second coming of Christ is the dispensation of the Spirit.  The Spirit’s ministry will continue until Jesus comes, after which another dispensational ministry will succeed.  The characteristic name for the Spirit during this dispensation is the Spirit of Christ.

      The entire Trinity co-operates in the full manifestation of God during the great dispensations.  Each exercises an earthly ministry:  the Father descends at Sinai, the Son descends at the incarnation; the Spirit descends on the day of Pentecost.  The Father commends the Son from heaven (Matt 3:17), the Son commends the Spirit (Rev. 2:11), and the Spirit testifies to the Son. John 15:26.  As God the Son fulfills to men the work of God the Father, so the Holy Ghost fulfills to men the work of God the Son.

The Christian life is a life dedicated to the worship and service of God, that is, a sanctified life.  In relation to the sanctified life, God is the Holy One; Christ is the high priest; sin is defilement; repentance is consciousness of defilement; the atonement is an expiatory sacrifice; the Christian life is dedication on the alter (Rom. 12:1); the perfection of this aspect is entire sanctification from sin and separation to God.

Basic Doctrines of the bible by Myer Pearlman

We are Spirit, soul (mind, will, emotions) and body.  Our Spirit which is born again if we respond to the Holy Spirit’s nudging, to repent of our sin with a godly and honest sorrow does remain so.  However our mind (soul) needs to be renewed and as such our body will cooperate with our spirit which is perfect and regenerated through our acceptance of the free gift of life through Christ.  In the beginning God made man in His image but after the fall through the temptation of Eve and the high treason by Adam; that image (of God) was marred and distorted through the presence of evil and spiritual death of man.  The soul and body of man continued to degenerate until God created a way of rescue and salvation for us through the God-Man, Christ Jesus.  Now as born again believers our human spirit is made alive by our Fathers Spirit and through the miracle and process of regeneration our minds are renewed.  We have to cooperate in that process on a daily basis, by continually reading His Word and being baptised for service into the Holy Spirit and  submitting to His will.  Our salvation is for us but we must replicate this experience for others whose image is still marred by sin and satan.  Satan knows his time is limited and given that he was at one time a beatiful angel of music in heaven, he is jealous and rages against man because God loves man. Satan was thrown out of heaven as a result of his iniquity which was found in him when he rebelled and wanted to be like the most high God.   Satan chose his end by getting out of God’s perfect, just, and loving order.  Man on the other hand can still make a choice as to where he will spend eternity.  On this day I pray that you listen to that still voice in your soul that beckens you back to Him….Repent and accept Jesus Christ as your personal Savior and submit to Him as His yoke is easy and  watch your life blossom in front of you and others.  Be open and obedient to the Holy Spirit and ask Him to empower you to do the work of a servant of the most High God. Do not forsake the assembling of yourselves together as we are all a vital part of His body and He is the Head!!  Watch your Father in heaven open up Himself to you in such miraculous and loving ways!!!!  Your life will be forever changed and I mean for eternity!!

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THIS SWEET LITTLE DITTY BY JOEL OSTEEN, IS SO RIDICULOUS THAT I DON’T KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN MY CRITIQUE,, PLEASE RESPOND TO HELP FIRE UP MY FLAME SO I CAN WRITE AN EXHAUSTIVE TREATISE ON THIS EPIC ABSURDITY!!! I will write an article on this tomorrow, if the creek don’t rise. COMMENTS ARE OPEN BELOW

One thing is FOR SURE – JESUS CHRIST **never, never, never** ignored His critics and AND ***NEVER, NEVER, NEVER*** taught that you should ignore yours – or that ANY “MAN OF GOD” is beyond critique, above reproof and not accountable for their teachings to THE “Body of Christ” and Christ Himself!!! IN FACT – JESUS WAS THE MASTER/MAESTRO of apologetics and the exemplar for US ALL. If you dare call yourself a Christian. – Damon Whitsell

THOSE WHO IGNORE CORRECTION -R- IGNORANT ON PURPOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ignore the Critics (Written By: Joel Osteen)
Today’s Scripture: So when Peter went up to Jerusalem, the circumcised believers criticized him. Acts 11:2, NIV.

Today’s Word: One time Jesus was in the temple. It was on the Sabbath, their day of rest. He saw a man with a withered hand. Jesus simply said, “Stretch forth your hand,” and immediately the man was healed. The religious leaders, the Pharisees, were there and didn’t like Jesus. Even though He did something great, they ridiculed Him for doing it on the Sabbath, the day of rest.

Some people, no matter what you do, are not going to be for you. Even if you changed, met all their demands and did everything they asked, they would still find something wrong. I’ve learned that we can all save a lot of heartache and pain by learning to ignore those critical voices. You don’t need those people’s approval. You don’t have to have them cheering you on. They may try to make you look bad, but if you will stay on the high road and let God fight your battles, the more they talk the more God will bless you. They may try to take you down, but God will use it to take you up. Keep focused on your future, keep focused on the Word, and let His truth strengthen you to ignore the critics and move forward into the life of blessing He has prepared for you!

Prayer for Today: Father, today I set my heart and focus on You. I choose to ignore the critical voices that would try to distract me from Your plan. Help me to forgive those who come against me and always walk in love so that I can honor You in Jesus’ name. Amen.

http://kennardgroup.wordpress.com/2012/11/23/ignore-the-critics-written-by-joel-osteen/


IF YOU CALL YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN, PLEASE READ THIS – IT IS VERY POSSIBLE THAT YOU WHERE TAUGHT WRONGLY AND YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY THINK STANDING IN A GARAGE MAKES YOU A CAR!!!!!

The Prosperity Gospel: An Erroneous Gospel & A Distortion of the Gospel

Brethren,

The problem with the prosperity gospel is not the jets (that is like diagnosing a yellow fever patient with headaches!). The jets and other things may be symptoms, but the fundamental problem with the prosperity gospel is with the content itself. It is not the true gospel – it is an erroneous gospel, or at best a distortion of the gospel!

In the long run, it cannot help you become godly. In any case it only further impoverishes the poor.

Here’s the outline of this email:
A. What is the gospel
B. What’s the prosperity gospel
C. What is wrong with prosperity gospel
D. Some sociological effects of the prosperity gospel
E. Conditions/things that enable the prosperity gospel in Nigeria

A. What is the gospel? (you may skip to the next section if familiar with the gospel)

1 Corinthians 15:1-5 (ESV)
1 Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, 2 and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you” unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures….

The core of the gospel (good news) is this:

All are sinners – broken God’s law and offended him, separated from God (Isaiah 59:2), dead in our sins (Rom. 6:23; Eph. 2:3), and cannot please God (Rom. 3:10-11), and will suffer damnation (2 Thess. 1:9).

As a result of God’s love, Christ died (John 3:16; Rom. 5:8; 1 John 4:9-10), for our sins -as a substitute for us (Isaiah 53:6; 2 Cor. 5:21; Gal:3:13; 1 Peter 2:24), that he was buried, raised on the third day

His death is able to

take away the wrath of God against sin which is directed towards all sinners (Romans 3:25-26; Isaiah 53:5, 10);

set anyone free from the slavery to a sinful life (Romans 6:17, Gal. 3:13, 1 Cor. 7:23, Heb. 2:14-15), and

reconcile people to God (Romans 5:10, 2 Cor. 5:18-20)

This is available to anyone who recognizes their sinfulness, repents (Acts 17:30; 2 Corinthians 7:9-10) and trusts Christ completely to save them from their sins. (John 1:12; 3:16).

B. What are the features of the prosperity gospel?

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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | November 17, 2012

Casting Stones

SNIPIT – as I continue to receive enlightenment on scripture, I continue to be amazed at how many cliches people carelessly throw around.

I was thinking about John 8:7 “So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.”

 

This verse has been abused and has done more damage than good. This verse is used to prevent anyone from discussing or confronting sin. I can think of many situations where this verse was used to prevent someone from telling another church member their child was misbehaving or that they may need to keep an “eye” on their spouse. People would rather  ”mind their on business” and let disaster strike than sacrifice feelings and address important matters.

Casting Stones.

via Casting Stones.

WANT TO FEEL BETTER? THEN MEET MY GOOD FRIENDS JJ AND GREYMOTH – AND HELP SOMEONE TODAY By Damon Whitsell

Please make the world a better place by watching this video, reading this and PAYING IT ALL FORWARD!!!

CLICK LINK BELOW TO SEE A VERY GOOD VIDEO

See How One Act of Kindness Can Turn Into a Million More – You Will Love This!

OK OK, This video made me cry and so did the movie PAY IT FORWARD – but laugh at me at you own risk as I have many imaginary friends and one is a guardian with a short fuse who might get pissed and come kick your butt. LOL!!! REALLY, I CAN DREAM – RIGHT – READ REV. 21&22

I’d now like to tell you about what is beautiful and ugly about this world by introducing you to my friend JJ, and then another friend later, who is real and I met him about a month ago.

I went to see a friend who has cancer and we went to another friends to watch a football game. Along the way I seen a guy in a wheelchair that was stuck in a hole in the grass near the side of the road. I u-turned to see if I could assist. He said he could use a ride when I asked if he needed one so he got up – grabbed ahold of the side of the car and managed to get in the front passengers seat – but barely. We loaded his “ride” in the trunk and got to talking immediately. HIS NAME IS JJ. Come to find out he is a navy veteran who went and got drunk with two of his peers, at an Alabama base, in the 80’s, and when he got too drunk to drive they threw him in the back of his truck and they ended up having a wreck and JJ was catapulted out of the truck into a life that is lived with a moderate physical and mental disability. BUT HE WAS ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS AND TOUCHED MY LIFE FOREVER.

He said things like, when asked why he had an old wheelchair, that it “got great gas mileage”. Keep in mind he talked funny and it was hard to understand him, and he did this weird thing with his curled up hand when he talked to emphasize his point. His hand always shaked slightly and waved when he talked and he stuttered in a funny way.

So I asked where he was going and he said to the Valero Convenient Store. I said, “well what a coincidence, before I stopped I seen that stores sign down the street and was going to stop for a Dr. Pepper and I can run in a get what you want,, what do you want from the store?” He said,, “a ppp ppp pink movie”. I said “what”, he said “a ppp ppp pink movie” as he waved his crippled hand. I asked “are you talking about porno”,, he said,, “YEH A PPP PPP PPP PINK MOVIE” as he flailed his arm with more emphasis than before. I laughed and told him he was out of luck as I could not do that but I would get him a drink if he wanted me to. So he said,,” III IIII was ttt tthere last www week and ttt they wwhere out anyway”. So I laughed again. He said,,, “yyy you guys, are some oo oo old hippie guys and mmm my kinda guys”.

Then as we were getting to the neighborhood where he lived, which conveniently was in the same one we were going to watch the game,, he said,, “dddd ddd do yyy you gg guys know where I can get a humma”. I said “what are you talking about”!! He said,,, “DDD DD DD DD DDDDO YOU GGGGGUYS KKKK KKK KNOW WWW WHERE I CAN GET A HUMMA”. I said,,, “what the hell are you saying man, are you talking about a vehicle of a blow-job?” And he said,, “YYYYY YYYYY YYYYY YYYYY YYyyeh,, A HUMMA”. I LAUGHED MY ASS OFF AND SAID “NO I DON’T”.

Then my friend who is now in the back seat said,, “hey JJ – on that street right by your house there are two girls that always stand out there that do that”. And JJ said,”BBBB BBB BBB BBBBBBBBUT TTT TTT THEY CCCOST MONEY”.

That was all I could take. I laughed like I had not laughed in years and had to take an immediate hard right turn into the next parking out to avoid having a wreck from laughing so hard. I laughed for about 10 minutes uncontrollably. And what was best about it was that after I got through laughing, Brian,, said,, “what did JJ say that was so funny, I missed it”. So I told him,,, “he said they cost money like he thinks we know someone who might give an old crippled hippie vet in a wheelchair a blow job FOR FREE”. So we got to laugh for 10 more minutes, this time together.

Well by this time I had to know what made JJ tick,, so I asked him about how life had treated him for these 30 plus years. AND HERE IS THE BEAUTY AND UGLINESS IF THIS WORLD.

He said,,, “pp ppp pretty ggg good,, ee eexcept I I IIII been rrrun over ff four times”. I asked,,” in your wheelchair”? He said,, “yyyy yeh”. I asked “by a car”,, he said,,,,, “yeh”. I asked “how can a guy in a wheelchair get run over by a car four times”. And then I said “man you have some really bad luck don’t you”. And he said,,,, “nnn nn nnnooo. TTTTHEY WWWAS ON PPPURPOSE”. And his arm flailed like never before.

So after all that shit JJ had been through and all that time of pushing his wheelchair backwards with his legs because his arms are more deformed than his legs – and getting stuck in holes and stuff because he is going backwards and cannot see them well – JJ GOT HIT 4 TIMES BY A CAR – ON PURPOSE.

AND HE WAS STILL NOT BITTER IN THE LEAST – IT MADE ME FEEL BAD.

I been through some major shit in my life and have only met one girl who suffered more than me and her name was Kathy Green (AKA GREYMOTH) and she was born into an occult family and was subjected to 30 plus years of Satanic Ritual Abuse. She was passed around as a sex toy for the first time at the occult meeting her dad lead, when she was six years old. She said about 20 guys had her sexually that day.

She was diagnosed MPD and had over 500 alters at one time. When I met her in a poetry forum in 99 she had only about 300 and in the eight months I knew her we were able to reduce that figure, along with her pastor, psychiatrist and psychologist, and others – to around 200. I was really saddened when her husband asked me to call off our friendship because we had become too fascinated with each other. But I did not even flinch on thinking not to honor his and her wishes – so we said our good-byes on the phone.

WEIRD THING IS THAT SHE SENT ME A PICTURE OF HERSELF AND SHE WAS ONE OF THE UGLIEST GIRLS I HAD EVER SEEN – BUT SHE WAS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL SOUL I HAVE EVER MET. AND MAN WAS SHE IN LOVE WITH JESUS. I MEAN REALLY IN LOVE WITH THE ONE WHO RESCUED HER DAY IN AND DAY OUT FROM ALL THOSE DEMONS INJECTED INTO HER BY HER DAD AND HIS OCCULT BUDDIES.

And guess what – SHE WAS NOT BITTER AT ALL. Well, some of her alters where more than bitter and some loved me and some hated me. I had a list of words not to use because she had been programmed for certain alters to come forward for specific words. And you could tell the change in her, even in text. And when on the phone her voice intonation would change – and sometimes she, or the alter, would curse me out and threaten me. But I eventually learned how to bring the real Kathy back. Guess how – you may have guessed it – THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST AND PRAYER.

Well, JJ was certainly no Greymoth to me,, but like Kathy – he will be with me for the rest of my life, in my heart, making me a better person for meeting and remembering them both. Even though me and Brian was only with JJ for about 30 minutes or so – I gave him my number and asked him to call me one day and let me know how he was doing. I still have not heard from him. But you don’t know how many people I have made laugh and feel better by telling them about JJ since then. AND YOU CANNOT KNOW HOW MUCH JJ HAS TOUCHED ME UNLESS YOU HELP SOMEONE AND FIND YOUR OWN JJ and YOU’RE YOUR OWN GREYMOTH.

SO DO THE WORLD A BIG FAVOR,,, PASS THIS VERY REAL STORY ABOUT THEM ON TO OTHERS,, ALONG WITH ATTACHED VIDEO AND ASK THEM TO WATCH THE MOVIE,, PAY IT FORWARD,, AND READ REV21-22.

Because with people in the world that will gang rape a six year old and purposely run-over a guy in a wheelchair – WE ARE GOING TO NEED A NEW HEAVEN AND EARTH to have the world that we all desire as THIS WORLD JUST AIN’T RIGHT. But we can make it a little better by PAYING GOOD DEEDS FORWARD until then. And you can start by making this viral. THANKS YA’LL

Sincerely and truthfully,
Damon Whitsell
MAGANGER OF
The How2BecomeAChristian
Apologetics Network

Posted by: Damon Whitsell | September 29, 2012

Witchcraft in Word Faith Teachings

Damon Whitsell:

SNIPIT – Witchcraft includes the use of an incantation or enchantment to cast spells. An incantation can take place during a ritual, a hymn or prayer, and may invoke or praise a deity. It also can be used to cast spells on an object or person. This is known as pharmakeia, a word where we get the modern day word, medicine.

Pharmakeia was also known to make spell-giving potions believed to have transforming powers, such as the ability to extend life, boost energy, or enhance the mind. It also refers to any substance used to poison, prevent or treat disease, or gain control of someone’s behavior. In the case of the word of faith doctrine, the substance is your words.

When faced with a problem, any problem, a word faith teacher will instruct you to go to the bible and find every scripture that references your need. For example, if you are sick you would find every scripture that references healing. If you are having financial problems, you would find every scripture that reference prosperity and abundance. You will then need to repeat these scriptures on a regular basis.

Sometimes, a false teacher will give you a list of preselected confessions for the year. These confessions are to be read privately and with the congregation. The confession may also be part of the Sunday morning worship service.

Positive confession is a new age/thought practice of saying aloud what you want to happen in your life and expect that God will make it a reality. Not only do you have to possess the correct words, you must also have enough faith. Little faith is not going to cut it. Neither can you speak any negative words (negative confession) for that will make your confession null and void. Negative confession is saying the truth/reality of a situation or expressing fear aloud. Saying you get the flu during flu season would be a negative confession resulting in you actually getting the flu during flu season. This logic falls on it’s face when you read how king Nebuchadnezzar thought he had power. After God was finished with him he glorified God and said “all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he does according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou? Daniel 4:35

What is man that he can command God? Can creation manipulate the Creator? No. God, forbid!

Positive and negative confession is also known as the “law of attraction”. This is a belief that ‘like attracts like.’ What you put out into the universe will be given back to you – positive or negative. In “The Secret”, writer Lisa Nichols suggests that if a person opens an envelope expecting to see a bill, the envelope will “confirm” those thoughts and contain a bill when opened. A person who decided to instead expect a check might find a check instead of a bill.

Originally posted on Experience in the Word of Faith:

Witchcraft includes the use of an incantation or enchantment to cast spells. An incantation can take place during a ritual, a hymn or prayer, and may invoke or praise a deity. It also can be used to cast spells on an object or person. This is known as pharmakeia, a word where we get the modern day word, medicine.

Pharmakeia was also known to make spell-giving potions believed to have transforming powers, such as the ability to extend life, boost energy, or enhance the mind. It also refers to any substance used to poison, prevent or treat disease, or gain control of someone’s behavior. In the case of the word of faith doctrine, the substance is your words.

When faced with a problem, any problem, a word faith teacher will instruct you to go to the bible and find every scripture that references your need. For example, if you are…

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Posted by: Damon Whitsell | September 29, 2012

Damon Whitsell:

I have been so very blessed to meet many people who have left the Word of Faith Movement and teachings. And it is totally awesome that so many of them have shared their hearts and lifes, on my site, to help others get free from the DOUBLE B
IND that is the WoF.

This lady here has her own blog and post regularly on it. She is hitting her stride, opening her heart and sharing her studies and meditations. SHE IS GOING TO HELP SO MANY PEOPLE. Please visit her and giver her some support – it’s tough taking a stand like she is doing, and she sill get attacked often for it – so I am sure she could use some encouragement.

If you would like to ready about 50 ex-WoF testimonies – visit my page here.

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/testimony-page/

Originally posted on Experience in the Word of Faith:

Word Faith teachers knowingly keep their followers in a state of confusion by teaching conflicting messages. Their basic premise is working the word correctly will work for you. The messages are about how YOU have to believe and SAY the correct positive confession in order to live the abundant life God has intended for you. Sickness and lack is not an indication of success and you can’t help build the Kingdom if you don’t….look the part. The King’s kids should look like they are children of a king…so they say.

One night, I was thinking about how blessed I am that the Lord opened my eyes to see the darkness I was in. But when I think about my blessings, I always think about the people I know who are still being lulled to sleep and being fed poison week after week with word faith teachings.

I remember many times…

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