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		<title>Stripping away the Sheep&#8217;s Clothing of a Ravenous Wolve by Rich Vermillion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damon Whitsell</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our friend Rich Vermilion over at KennethCopelandBlog.com has written another excellent article at his main blog. Below is a small portion of his article. There are many wolves at large today, prowling around with their “sheep’s clothing” draped across their furry shoulders, looking for any unsuspecting prey which they can devour for their own self-serving [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com&#038;blog=6368286&#038;post=4586&#038;subd=thewordonthewordoffaith&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our friend <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/richvermillion">Rich Vermilion</a> over at <strong><a title="KennethCopelandBlog.com, a &quot;loving rebuke&quot; calling on the man, his family, and his &quot;ministry&quot;...to simply, repent." href="http://kennethcopelandblog.com/" target="_blank"><strong>KennethCopelandBlog.com </strong></a></strong>has written <a href="http://richvermillion.com/2011/04/03/when-wolves-remove-their-clothes/">another excellent article at his main blog</a><strong>. </strong>Below is a small portion of his article.</p>
<blockquote><p>There are many wolves at large today,  prowling around with their “sheep’s clothing” draped across their furry  shoulders, looking for any unsuspecting prey which they can devour for  their own self-serving agendas. One even contacted me today, and tried  to deceive me into advertising his alleged “ministry” for him on my  websites, using a <em>false</em> confrontation about Kenneth Copeland as his “lure.”</p>
<p>Instead of playing his silly game, however, I decided to write this article and let him <em>undress</em> his true character for the entire world to see.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://richvermillion.com/2011/04/03/when-wolves-remove-their-clothes/">READ MORE HERE</a></p>
<p>I sometimes get accused of being anti-Charismatic and Pentecostal but this is simply untrue. While I do think both movements and traditions are fundamentally flawed and un-biblical, I am not against Charismatics and Pentecostals. Rather I am against the Word of Faith Movement (which is almost entirely heretical and abusive) and anyone from any group that is more like the Mafioso than Christ. That includes narcissistic and controlling people and groups from all theological traditions but it is my firm belief that both the Charismatic and Pentecostal Movements are rife breeding grounds for such groups and people because of the lack of structured accountability.</p>
<p>In 85 I was a charismatic for about 8 months. After they got through with me I did not walk into another church for 10 years and would walk away at the mere mention of the word &#8220;God&#8221; for about 5 years (My beliefs are not based on my experiences but rather my biblical studies). Since then I have been involved with 3 ministries that turned out to be very nefarious. One was Tic Toc Ministries and Monica Dennington (see <a href="http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2009/06/12/tic-tocfinal-word-cult/">here</a> and <a href="http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2009/06/29/tic-toc-final-word-cult/">here</a>) and I hope to share my bad experiences with the other two ministries one day. But I would like to publicly acknowledge 4 people and their ministries that have prevented me from being totally against all things Charismatic and Pentecostal,, <strong>Rich Vermillion is definitely one of them</strong>. The other 3 are <a href="http://www.guymalone.com/">Guy Malone</a> (and his wife) from <a href="http://www.alienresistance.org/">Alien Resistance</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/MarcusStead">John Marcus Stead</a>, and our very own fellow groupblogger <a href="http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/author/blabitandgrabit/">WoF Unveiled</a> (which has turned out to be a great source of emotional support and a great friend to me). <strong>I AM VERY PROUD to call these Charismatic brothers,, BROTHERS IN CHRIST</strong>. And I am very blessed to think of a couple of them as friends. <strong><span style="color:#ff0000;">THANK YOU ALL FOR INFLUENCING MY LIFE IN A VERY POSITIVE WAY, You are all great ambassadors for Christ Jesus!!!</span></strong></p>
<p>Sincerly,</p>
<p>Damon Whitsell</p>
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		<title>Uncomfortable Questions For Tithe Teaching Preachers!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 22:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Questions Tithing Advocates Fail To Answer! Our modern day tithe teachers do not have intellectual honesty. Most of the pro-tithers cling onto Matthew 23:23 &#38; Luke 11:42 and say that even Jesus said so, therefore the NT Christians need to tithe.  If they take Matthew 23:23/Luke 11:42 as a command for New Testament Christians to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com&#038;blog=6368286&#038;post=3833&#038;subd=thewordonthewordoffaith&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>Our modern day tithe teachers do not have intellectual honesty.<br />
Most of  the pro-tithers cling onto <a href="http://bible.cc/matthew/23-23.htm">Matthew  23:23</a> &amp; <a href="http://bible.cc/luke/11-42.htm">Luke 11:42</a> and say that even Jesus said so, therefore the NT Christians need to  tithe.  If  they take Matthew 23:23/Luke 11:42 as a command for New Testament  Christians to tithe here are the questions they need to answer:<br />
1.  According to Mishna and Flavious Josephus the 1st century Jews  practiced<br />
multiple tithes (almost 3).  How did the early Christians  practice all 3 tithes?<br />
2.  Did the early Christians who did  not own farms and cattle give 23% of  their earned income to their Churches?<br />
3.  Levitical tithes  were yearly and it went to Levites according to their<br />
locations.  Who  are the Levites today and who were the Levites in 1st century<br />
Christianity?<br />
4.  How did the “NT Levites” take the 10% of the 10% to the &#8220;NT Priests&#8221;?<br />
5.  If the NT Pastor is the priest don’t we have to tithe to the ushers,  choir,<br />
greeters and other Church staff members and let them tithe  from their tithes to<br />
the (senior) Pastor?<br />
6. Why does the  Senior Pastor collect all tithes today and give salaries to the<br />
staff  members and leave many Church workers unpaid?  The OT High Priests did  not<br />
do that.  The OT Aaronic Priests  received only 1% of the total tithe.<br />
7. In  the OT the High Priests themselves did not tithe but why do our modern  day prosperity<br />
preachers tithe to their cohorts?</p>
<p>8.  Regarding the <a href="http://bible.cc/deuteronomy/14-26.htm">festival  tithe,</a> do Christians need to go to Jerusalem to observe it as the  Jews did?  What is our Jerusalem now? Did the NT Christians practice  pilgrimage to Jerusalem?. The festival tithe must be taken to Jerusalem.   If that was prescribed to NT Christians we should make pilgrimage to  Jerusalem like the Muslims visit Mecca?!?!?!</p>
<p>9. The  3rd tithe for poor (Charity Tithe): Why don’t tithe asking Pastors give  their congregation the liberty to take care of the poor?  Why would it  go to the benevolent funds controlled by the Church board? Poor people  need to go through hoops to get some help.  That really complicates the  process?<br />
10. Even if we assume that tithing was commanded to  NT Christians the pro-tithers fail to consider one important thing:</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><strong>* The  plurality of the NT Church leadership.</strong></p>
<div>a.  In the first century Christianity no  Church was run by a          single Pastor.  The Churches were founded  by Apostles and they in          turn appointed elders  a.k.a Pastors (in  plural &#8211; more than one).           Why can&#8217;t the tithe seeking Pastors  follow that model today?</p>
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<div>b.  Also the early Church had all  5 five fold ministries in          the Church.</div>
<div>Apostles, Prophets, Teachers,  Evangelists          and Pastors.   Well, we all cannot agree if the  offices of          Apostles and Prophets exist today but we all can  agree at least the          offices of  Pastors, Evangelists and Teaches  exist in our          contemporary Christianity. So the point is, even  if the early Church received tithes it was          divided amongst all 5  fold ministers and the money DID NOT GO TO A          SINGLE PASTOR  unlike what we see today.  The tithing advocates          today need to  answer this question as well.  They are unwilling to accommodate other  types of ministries but want to dominate and control the           finances which is totally unfair.</div>
<div>c. Acts 13:1</div>
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<div>Now there were at Antioch, in the church that was there, prophets and  teachers: Barnabas, and Simeon who was called Niger, and Lucius of  Cyrene, and Manaen who had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and  Saul.</div>
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<div>In Acts 13:1 we see in the early Church of Antioch they had 5 ministers who were prophets and teachers.   Is it logical to assume all these 5 ministers received &#8220;double portion&#8221; of the &#8220;tithes&#8221; that that Church was receiving if it ever received money as tithe.   When Paul and Barnabas were commissioned as Apostles a few verses later did they start receiving half of the money they got when they had that dual calling of functioning as prophets and teachers.  In Acts chapter 13 we see their dual function of prophets and teachers was changed by the Holy Spirit to only one office in the five-fold ministry.</div>
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<div>d.  Many Senior Pastors  have their associate          Pastors.   Most of them are not paid well  and some of them are          asked to &#8220;live by faith&#8221;.   These tithe  hungry Pastors not          only forget the poor but also neglect their  own staff members.           This example was certainly not followed by  the first century Christian          church.</div>
<p>Therefore  the pro-tithers still would not meet the NT model of tithing even if  it was practiced by the early Christian church.</p>
<p>New Testament  Christians Don&#8217;t Be Deceived By these Mammon Lovers!!!</p>
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		<title>Rhema and Logos: There Is No Difference!!!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Word of Faith preachers keep telling us that there is a special difference between the words Logos and Rhema. According to Word of Faith theology: Rhema means “spoken word”, and Logos means “written word” or Jesus Himself Rhema means “particular word” and Logos means general word Rhema is subjective and Logos is objective Rhema [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com&#038;blog=6368286&#038;post=3720&#038;subd=thewordonthewordoffaith&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://thewordonthewordoffaith.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/rhema.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-3739 alignright" title="rhema" src="http://thewordonthewordoffaith.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/rhema.jpg?w=500" alt=""   /></a>The Word of Faith preachers keep telling us  that there is a special difference between the words Logos and Rhema.</p>
<p>According to Word of Faith theology:</p>
<ul>
<li>Rhema means “spoken word”, and Logos means “written word” or Jesus  Himself</li>
<li>Rhema means “particular word” and Logos means general word</li>
<li>Rhema is subjective and Logos is objective</li>
<li>Rhema is specific word and Logos is generic word or universal word</li>
<li>Rhema is contemporary and Logos is eternal.</li>
<li>Rhema is the “now” word and Logos is the Bible itself</li>
<li>Rhema is a revelatory word and Logos is the written word</li>
<li>Rhema is the quickened word and Logos is the written word</li>
<li>Rhema word contains power and Logos word is only black letters in  white paper</li>
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<p>These claims are absolutely contrary to the scriptures.  In the  Septuagint (Greek Old Testament) and in the Greek New Testament Rhema  and Logos are used interchangeably.  They are used synonymously and  there is no difference between Logos and Rhema at all.</p>
<p>Kenneth Hagin Sr. founded “Rhema Bible Training Center” a.k.a “Rhema  Bible Twisting Center” based upon this false assumption!</p>
<p>Let me give one example related to a verse which is commonly used in the  Charismatic circles:</p>
<p>1 Corinthians 12:8 Greek Study Bible (Apostolic / Interlinear)</p>
<p>ᾧ μὲν γὰρ διὰ τοῦ πνεύματος δίδοται λόγος σοφίας, ἄλλῳ δὲ <span style="color:red;">λόγος</span> γνώσεως κατὰ τὸ αὐτὸ πνεῦμα,</p>
<p>For to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, and to  another the word of knowledge according to the same Spirit;</p>
<p>Word of Knowledge and Word of Wisdom are specific messages from the Holy  Spirit for a particular situation.  They are supernatural and inspired.   Word of Knowledge is informative and Word of Wisdom is directive.</p>
<p>Ignorant followers of Kenneth Hagin would assume that Paul had used  Rhema to in 1 Corinthians 12:8 but to their surprise it is LOGOS.</p>
<p>Here is another example from the Gospels:</p>
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<p>Matthew 26:75 And Peter remembered the word (Strong&#8217;s # 4487 &#8211; rhema) of  Jesus, which said unto him, Before the **** crow, thou shalt deny me  thrice.</p>
<p>Mark 14:72 And Peter called to mind the word (4487- rhema) that Jesus  said unto him, Before the **** crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice.</p>
<p>Luke 22:61 And Peter remembered the word (Strong&#8217;s # 3056 &#8211; logos) of  the Lord, how he had said unto him, Before the **** crow, thou shalt  deny me thrice.</p>
<p>Neither Septuagint translators nor NT writers distinguished between  Rhema and Logos but Kenneth Hagin got a special revelation (he probably  borrowed it from E.W. Kenyon) and established this as his flagship  doctrine.   Therefore foundation of WoF itself is built on a lie.</p>
<p>And here is yet another.</p>
<p>Ephesians 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the  Spirit, which is the word (4487 &#8211; rhema) of God:</p>
<p>Hebrews 4:12 For the word (3056 &#8211; logos) of God [is] quick, and  powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the  dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and  [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.</p>
<p>Ephesians 6:17 and Hebrews 4:12 both describe the word of God as a  sword, but Ephesians uses the Greek word &#8220;rhema&#8221; for the &#8220;word&#8221; of God,  while Hebrews uses the Greek word &#8220;logos&#8221; for the &#8220;word&#8221; of God. Should  we assume that there are two different &#8220;swords&#8221; of God&#8217;s word, one that  is a rhema word and one that is a logos word? No, the obvious answer is  that it&#8217;s the same sword being described in both cases and that the  words &#8220;rhema&#8221; and &#8220;logos&#8221; are not distinct enough to justify creating  two different categories of the word of God.</p>
<p>If Hagin Sr. had lied about this fundamental truth how can we trust him  with his other (alleged) revelations?</p>
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<p>I’m not the only one who has doubts about what kind of <em>truth</em> Osteen believes. For those who think Joel Osteen and his beliefs are some how “ok,” article gotten here:</p>
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<p>What religion is Joel Osteen?<br />
By Joseph Farah</p>
<p>Sometimes I get confused watching these mega-church preachers.</p>
<p>Are they reading the same Bible I’m reading?</p>
<p>Do they really have an intimate relationship with the same Jesus I know?</p>
<p>Is the Holy Spirit actually working within them – providing the kind of discernment He promises believers?</p>
<p>These questions came to mind while watching Joel Osteen and his lovely wife, Victoria, on CNN’s “Larry King Live” last week.</p>
<p>Is this the new face of American Christianity? Is this why Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected? Is this the Good News? Or is this some other religion altogether?</p>
<p><strong>Admittedly, Osteen ticked me off right out of the gate by praising Barack Obama: “Well, I think he’s doing a great job. I’m impressed with his skill, his calmness, his just strength under pressure. These are tough times for him.”</strong></p>
<p>Actually, no. These aren’t tough times for Obama. He’s having the time of his life. He’s partying it up and eating $100-a-pound beef in the White House. We should all face such tough times. Maybe that’s how the mega-wealthy Osteens define tough times. But I submit to you it is the American people who are suffering – not the Obamas.</p>
<p>But the interview actually went downhill from there.</p>
<p>King pointed out that many Americans are still confused about Obama’s religion and asked, “Does it matter?”</p>
<p>“Well, it matters to me,” said Osteen. “It matters to me that I know he loves the Lord, and I think it’s important that he has convictions from his faith. So to me, it matters when I’m making my personal decisions.”</p>
<p>Mrs. Osteen weighed in, too: “It does. It matters to me. … <strong>I believe he is a Christian.”</strong></p>
<p>Now, let’s stop right there for a moment of reflection.</p>
<p>How do we know someone else is a believer? Is someone a Christian simply because they proclaim to be one? The Bible tells us we will know them by their fruits. I wonder what fruits the Osteens are seeing that would suggest to them Obama is a Christian?</p>
<p>In John 14:15, Jesus explains, “If you love Me, keep my commandments.”</p>
<p>Now, I won’t run through all of the Ten Commandments, but let’s stick to just one – the eighth: “Thou shall not steal.”</p>
<p>Not only is Obama stealing wealth from Americans today, he is stealing from our grandchildren – and our great-grandchildren!</p>
<p>But maybe that commandment is not in the Joel Osteen New Living Translation of the Bible the Osteens were hawking on the King show.</p>
<p><strong>I don’t know about you, but I would like to see some real holy men in America stand up like the prophet Nathan and hold people – and especially our leaders – accountable to the Word of God.</strong></p>
<p>Is that too much to ask?</p>
<p><strong>America is going down the tubes fast, and the new faces of Christianity are playing patty-cake. They’re acting like the latest self-help gurus.</strong></p>
<p>We need some wisdom, and we’re just not getting it from these lukewarm pretenders.</p>
<p>Now, look, I don’t care if Christian pastors want to keep their heads in the sand and protect their precious 501(c)3 corporations by avoiding politics altogether, as most of them do. <strong>But when they stand up on national television and proclaim Obama is a Christian and doing a good job, I have a real problem with that.</strong></p>
<p><strong>It’s a lie.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Obama is breaking his covenant with the American people every day. That covenant is the Constitution of the United States.</strong></p>
<p><strong>The Osteens cannot even stand up for the institution of marriage without equivocating.</strong></p>
<p>True followers of Jesus win converts when they show people their sin and explain the consequences of sin. <strong>They don’t soft-pedal it. They’re not afraid of offending people. We can pretend to love everyone and watch them go right to hell. That is not the kind of love my messiah showed. And it is not the kind I expect to see from ministers of the Gospel.</strong></p>
<p>RedeemedHippie&gt;&gt;&gt;[Mr. Farah, may I say that the reason you do not see the true gospel among most of todays' ministers, is because most are not the truth at all; but star studded idols in a star struck idolizing church. These <em>ministers</em> are cowards to the truth.]</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 01:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>Are we little gods?</p>
<p>The blab it and grab it word of faith preachers keep telling us that we are little gods.  Let us look at the scriptures they use to justifiy their position.</p>
<p>John 10:34-36:</p>
<p>Jesus answered them, &#8220;Is it not written in your Law, &#8216;I have said you are gods&#8217;? If he called them &#8216;gods,&#8217; to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken—what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, &#8216;I am God&#8217;s Son&#8217;?</p>
<p>Pslams 82:6</p>
<p>I said, &#8220;You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High.</p>
<p>Yes men are called as gods.  Even Satan is called as the god of this age.  Even the God said that He executed judgement against the gods of Egyptians.</p>
<p>For I will go through the land of Egypt on that night, and will strike down all the first-born in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgments &#8212; I am the Lord. (Exodus 12:12)</p>
<p>The Lord had also executed judgments on their gods. (Numbers 33:4)</p>
<p>Now I know that the Lord is greater than all the gods; indeed, it was proven when they dealt proudly against the people (Jethro&#8217;s testimony). (Exodus 18:11)</p>
<p>According to the above mentioned verses we can also call heathen idols as gods?  What is wrong in calling pagan deities as gods as the scriptures cannot be broken here as well?</p>
<p>DESCRIPTION DOES NOT EQUAL TO PRESCRIPTION</p>
<p>Even if we assume that we could call ourselves as gods why can&#8217;t we call Satan as god (2 Cor 4:4).  That is also stated in the Bible and the scripture cannot be broken.  We can also call pagan deities as gods as they are also mentioned as gods in the Bible and again scriptures cannot be broken.</p>
<p>We are also called as sons of God but there is a world of a difference between the ONLY begotten Son of God and us.</p>
<p>What is the motive behind the word of faith preachers telling us that we human beings are gods?   Their point is, we human beings are little gods and therefore we have the same kind of creative power like the Almighty God.  Our tongue is a creative force and we can speak things into existence by uttering positive confessions.  That is where they are taking this little god teaching to.</p>
<p>Well, these word of faith preachers are little gods with BIG mouths, probably bigger than Almighty God&#8217;s mouth &#8211; LOL</p>
<p>Also Almighty God rested on the seventh day after unleashing His creating power for 6 days, however our blab it and grab it preachers confess with their mouth unceasingly without rest.  As we all know many things they blab with their mouths do not come to pass.  Kenneth Hagin blabbed with his mouth that he would live for 135 years but he could not grab it.</p>
<p>So the word of faith movement needs to answer the following questions:</p>
<p>1.  What is the use of calling ourselves as little gods?</p>
<p>2.  Are we going to miss some of God&#8217;s blessings if we don&#8217;t consider as little gods.</p>
<p>3.  Can Christian women call themselves as little godesses or is the little god title applies only to Christian men?  Both Psalms 82 and John 10:34-36 are addressed to men!!!</p>
<p>4.  Scriptures cannot be broken if we can be called as gods.  So scriptures cannot be broken if we call Satan as god &#8211; right?</p>
<p>5.  If is not wrong to call ourselves as gods because the scripures cannot be broken then why can&#8217;t we call pagan deities as gods?</p>
<p>6.  Is it a command for New Testament Christians to call or consider ourselves as gods?</p>
<p>7.  Why did Apostle Paul never exhort Christians to call themselves as gods?</p>
<p>The word of faith preachers also quote Athanasius, Early Church Fathers and Charles Spurgeon for endorsing calling Christians as gods.  Well, all of these claims are true but none of them exhorted Christians to utter positive confessions with their mouth to exercise their creative power as the word of faith preachers do.</p>
<p>Again DESCRIPTION DOES NOT EQUAL TO PRESCRIPTION</p>
<p>Athanasius and Church Fathers on the little god subject:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.angelfire.com/md/mdmorrison/hist/DIVINIZ.html">http://www.angelfire.com/md/mdmorrison/hist/DIVINIZ.html</a></p>
<p>Charles Spurgeon on the little god subject:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.spurgeon.org/treasury/ps082.htm">http://www.spurgeon.org/treasury/ps082.htm</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"><strong>Did Jesus Suffer in Hell?</strong>  <a href="http://blabitandgrabit.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/did-jesus-suffer-in-hell/">http://blabitandgrabit.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/did-jesus-suffer-in-hell/</a></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"><strong><span style="color:#ff0000;">Response to word of faith apologist Tom Brown!</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">This article is not about proving or disproving if Jesus was tormented in hell but the purpose is to highlight the fallacies in Tom Brown&#8217;s answer regarding what happened after the death of Jesus on the cross.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Tom Brown who is a popular word of faith preacher tries to defend that Jesus indeed went to hell and got tormented. However the reasons given by Tom Brown is grossly inadequate to prove that Jesus went and suffered in hell. Let us examine Tom Browns claims one by one and compare them with what the Bible has to say.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>1. Jesus said “today” and not three days!</strong></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Tom Brown claims (I am paraphrasing his statements) that Jesus went to the Paradise section of the hades ONLY on that day of His death on the cross and after that Jesus went to the hell section of the hades and suffered for 12 hours.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Someone called William Carpenter has posed a question to Tom Brown citing Luke 23:43<br />
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&#8221; I have a question about Jesus&#8217; descent into hell. In Luke 23:43, &#8220;And Jesus replied,’ Today you will be with me in Paradise. This is a solemn promise.&#8221; TLB</em></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"><em>The question I am wondering about is how could He have defeated Satan in hell if He declared to the thief that they both would be in Paradise that day? I believe Jesus made an open display of Satan on the Cross, according to Col.1:14: &#8220;Who bought our freedom with His Blood and forgave us all our sins.&#8221;</em></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Could you also explain to me how the Word of Faith teaching responds to Luke23:43? I&#8217;ll be waiting for your reply.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Sincerely, William Carpenter</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Tom Brown answer is:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">As far as the passage in Luke 23:43 Jesus did go to Paradise that day. I agree. Jesus, however, did not say that He would be there for all three days. That&#8217;s where you make a wrong assumption. Jesus said, &#8220;Today, you will be with me in Paradise.&#8221; Today does not mean three days; it simply means the current day.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Let us analyze Tom Brown&#8217;s response to William Carpenter. According to Tom Brown Jesus did not say that He would be in Paradise for all three days. That&#8217;s where you make a wrong assumption. Tom Brown here charges William Carpenter for making a wrong assumption for interpreting &#8220;today&#8221; as three days!</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Well before making such an accusation Tom Brown needs to realize that he was the one who makes the wrong assumption and not William Carpenter. If Tom Brown&#8217;s &#8220;right&#8221; assumption that Jesus went to paradise before going to the hell section let him give an answer to Patriarch Abraham who answered differently to the suffering rich man.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Jesus tell us about the conversation between Abraham and the suffering rich man in Luke 16:24 through 26</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Luke 16:24<br />
&#8220;And he cried out and said, &#8216;Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in this flame.&#8217;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Luke 16:26<br />
And besides all this, between us and you there is a great chasm fixed, so that those who wish to come over from here to you will not be able, and that none may cross over from there to us.&#8217;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Tom Brown needs to answer how Jesus was able to cross over to the other side while He was still spiritually dead? He needs to make his own assumption now that God the Father sent Jesus to Paradise first just to escort that thief and God made Jesus to cross over!</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>2. Three deaths for human beings:</strong></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Here I have to agree with Tom Brown that human beings who are not born again will experience 3 deaths. However I differ in defining the kinds of death that an unbeliever would experience.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">* Spiritual death &#8211; Cessation of communication with God. When Adam and Eve sinned they died spiritually<br />
* Physical death &#8211; This was not in God&#8217;s original plan for Adam and Eve to die. But because of sin their spirits and souls needed to depart from their bodies. This is the cessation of communication between the human body and the spirit/soul.<br />
* Eternal death &#8211; Cessation of communication with God for ever. This is the eternal on-going destruction of the lost spirit and soul first in the place where that rich man went and later in the lake of fire after the great White throne judgment.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">However according to Tom Brown the 3 death&#8217;s were physical, spiritual and soulish. I don&#8217;t why Tom Brown has not explained about the eternal death! It is true that the soul experiences the torment in hell but so does the spirit. According to Hebrews 4:12 the soul is compared to the bone and the spirit is compared to the marrow. In other words in the human personality the soul surrounds the spirit. The human spirit is also known as the &#8220;heart&#8221;, inner man and inward man.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>3. Death in Hebrew is in plural.</strong></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Tom Brown is again correct in pointing out that the word death is mentioned in plural in Isaiah 53 in Hebrew. Tom Brown even gives some pictorial evidence to that in his website. The following 2 pictures are from one of Tom Brown&#8217;s own Bible as he brags in his website. He points out that death in Hebrew is mention in plural with scanned copies from one of his own Bibles!</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Does the plural form of death necessarily indicate more than one death?</span></p>
<p>“<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">B’motav” means “in his deaths” and “b’moto” means “in his death”. But does this indicate plurality? NO! If it were “b’moteihem/b’motam”, then he would have a point beyond any doubt, since this would mean “in their deaths/in their death”, which is indisputably plural. But this word in Isaiah 53:9 does not support anything he goes on to say. But the plural expression of that word is indeed used elsewhere in scripture. Let’s look at Ezekiel 28:</span></p>
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<dt><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"><span lang="en-GB">(8)</span> <span lang="en-GB">They shall bring thee down to the pit; and thou shalt die </span><span style="color:#008000;"><span lang="en-GB"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>the deaths</strong></span></span></span><span lang="en-GB"> of them that are slain, in the heart of the seas…. </span></span></dt>
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<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"><span lang="en-GB">(10)</span> <span lang="en-GB">Thou shalt die </span><span style="color:#008000;"><span lang="en-GB"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>the deaths</strong></span></span></span><span lang="en-GB"> of the uncircumcised by the hand of strangers; for I have spoken, saith the Lord YHWH.&#8217;</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">These are examples of a single person being addressed and threatened to die deaths (plural). Now it is often said that these are instances that the word “deaths” refer to the plural “uncircumcised”. Well, that doesn’t excuse the plural use either, because the Old Testament shows us that the singular is used in reference to a multitude [e.g. Numbers 23:10; Let me die the death (singular; moth) of the righteous (plural; y’sharim)]. And also verse 8 is a striking example of the plural being applied to a singular person. It speaks of “m’motei chalal b’lev yamim” which translates “in the deaths of one slain in the in the heart of the seas”. The plural (chalalim) is not used here (e.g. Isaiah 66:16, Daniel 11:26). So the plural for of deaths does not necessarily indicate that Jesus experienced multiple deaths.</span></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>4. Tom Brown on Acts 2:27</strong></span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Tom Brown explains Acts 2:27 like this:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Peter, in his first sermon, mentions the suffering of Christ’ soul in hell:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"><em>Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. (Acts 2:27, KJV)</em></span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Jesus’ soul was in hell, but not left there. Praise God. Why did Jesus go to hell for us? He went there because the punishment of sin is for the soul to be cast into hell. Since Christ suffered the penalties and punishment for our sins, it stands to reason that He would have to suffer in hell, and He did!&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Well here we should notice that the KJV has incorrectly translated hades as hell. Also why would Tom Brown say that the punishment of sin is for the soul to be case into hell instead of the lake of fire after the great White throne judgment. Jesus went to the paradise section of the hades. Acts 2:27 did not say that the soul of Jesus was tormented in &#8220;hell&#8221;. It says <em>&#8220;Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell&#8221;. </em>Even that place where the Old Testament saints were confined was a place in the nether world without hope. Only the Messiah, the Son of God would bring them redemption. So the soul of Jesus was not left behind in the hades because He Himself was the redeemer.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Tom Brown may say why would the verse say <em>thou wilt not leave my soul in hell</em>, does it not indicate that Jesus was expecting God the Father to rescue Him from the torments of hell? Well we can also argue like this: If Jesus was not suffering in hell He was definitely in the paradise section of the hades. That place is again a place of captivity. The Old Testament saints did not have the freedom to cross over to the other side and their freedom of movement was limited. So alternatively we can say that God the Father did not leave Jesus in the place of captivity and Jesus still needed to get out of that place. Leaving Jesus in the place where Abraham and Lazarus were present would have stilled messed up God&#8217;s plan of redemption. If Jesus was left behind in paradise He would not have resurrected and the Old Testament saint would have been in captivity together Jesus!!!</span><br />
<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">John 10:17 and 18</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">&#8220;For this reason the Father loves Me, because I lay down My life so that I may take it again.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">&#8220;No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own initiative. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This commandment I received from My Father.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">John 10:18 clearly proves that Jesus Himself had the authority to take His life back. Therefore after suffering 12 hours in hell how Jesus had the ability to take His own life back.</span><br />
<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>5. Tom Brown uses The Apostle&#8217;s Creed to justify his position.</strong></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Tom Brown writes:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"><em>The Apostle’s Creed. </em>A portion of the creed affirms Jesus descent into hell, the very thing that Hanegraaff disbelieves. It says: </span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">&#8220;I believe in God the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth; and in Jesus Christ his only Son our Lord; who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, dead, and buried<strong>; He descended into hell</strong>; the third day He rose again from the dead; He ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty…&#8221; (Emphasis added)</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">It’s clear that the early church believed that Jesus <strong>descended into hell</strong>. Were they heretics? The fact is, during their time if anyone refused to believe in the entire creed they were disfellowshipped&#8230;&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Steven Gertz is editorial coordinator for Christian History gives a vivid answer about this. According to Steven Gertz </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">&#8220;The oldest extant version comes from Bishop Marcellus of Ancyra (ca. A.D. 337), and it does not contain the clause about descending into hell. Scholars call this version &#8220;The Old Roman Form&#8221;—the earliest creed of the Roman church.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Apparently the clause first appeared in the East with Sirmium&#8217;s fourth formula in 359—also called the &#8220;Dated Creed&#8221;— though the Eastern church rejected it as tinged with Arianism. The first mention of the descent in the West occurs in the writings of Rufinus of Aquileia, who included it in his baptismal creed around 400. Over time, the Latin church appropriated it as well, officially integrating it into the Creed in 750&#8243;.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Methodist_Church">United Methodists</a> commonly incorporate the Apostles&#8217; Creed into their worship services. The version which is most often used is located at #881 in the </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_Methodist_Hymnal&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"><em>United Methodist Hymnal</em></span></a><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">, one of their most popular hymnals and one with a heritage to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wesley">John Wesley</a>, founder of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methodism">Methodism</a> . It is notable for omitting the line &#8220;he descended into hell&#8221;, but is otherwise very similar to the Book of Common Prayer version.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">So, yet another blow to Tom Brown&#8217;s claims. Tom Brown also makes a strange claim that Because of efforts like Hank Hanegraaff some churches have removed this part of the Apostle&#8217;s Creed from their statement or they rephrase the creed to say, &#8220;He descended into the Grave.” </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Tom Brown does not give details about which churches have changed the Apostle&#8217;c Creed as persuaded by Hank Hanegraaff.</span><br />
<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>6. Tom Brown fails to answer other important questions:</strong></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">a. Did Jesus cease to be a member of the Trinity when He suffered in hell?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">b. Did Jesus cease to be God when He was tormented in hell?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Conclusion:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">My point is not to prove whether Jesus indeed went to the place of torment and suffered for us or did He ONLY go to the place where Lazarus went. My article is to point out the fallacies in Tom Brown&#8217;s article.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">What happened in the cross? What happened when the darkness surrounded the entire earth? Was Jesus separated from God the Father? Was the Holy Spirit who was residing in Jesus beyond measure was taken away? Did Jesus cease to be a member of the Holy Trinity? With Jesus and the disciples not physically being around we cannot come to a clear conclusion.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Deuteronomy 29:29 gives us the answer:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"><strong>&#8220;The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons forever, that we may observe all the words of this law.</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">We don&#8217;t know the answers to all these questions until we get into eternity. Believing in Jesus is the only condition for Justification and to obtain eternal life. An unsaved person obviously need not believe that Jesus went to hell to suffer for him/her in order to obtain eternal life. That is good news.</span><br />
<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Finally, according to Tom Brown the belief that Jesus suffered in hell is necessary to understand the full redemptive work of Jesus.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">My question to Tom Brown:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">In what way you are different than other men of God who preached the Gospel powerfully in Church history who did not hold this view about Jesus&#8217; death?  In what way believing that Jesus was tormented in hell makes the Word of Faith believers better than other Christians Tom? Do the WoFers get more blessings for believing this particular doctrine?</span><br />
<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>Related links:</strong></span></span><br />
<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Hear it from the horse&#8217;s mouth: Tom Brown&#8217;s answer to William Carpenter</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"><a href="http://www.tbm.org/jesussuffershell.htm">http://www.tbm.org/jesussuffershell.htm</a></span><br />
<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Atonement Where? Excellent article by Moreno Dal Bello (© 2003 Tricia Tillin of Banner Ministries. All rights reserved)</span></p>
<p><a href="http://www.intotruth.org/wof/moreno1.html"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">http://www.intotruth.org/wof/moreno1.html</span></a><br />
<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Steven Gertz, the editorial coordinator for Christian History enlightens about the history of Apostle&#8217;s creed!</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Copyright © 2002 by the author or </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Christianity Today International/Christian History magazine. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"><a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ch/asktheexpert/nov15.html">http://www.christianitytoday.com/ch/asktheexpert/nov15.html</a></span><br />
<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Information about the Apostle&#8217;s Creed in Wikipedia.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostles%27_Creed">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostles%27_Creed</a></span></p>
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		<title>How To Identify A Wolf?: कैसे एक सियार की पहचान करने के लिए?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[ कैसे एक सियार की पहचान करने के लिए? Jesus warned “” Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.  You will know them by their fruit…”  (Matt.7:15-16). यीशु ने &#8220;&#8221; आप कौन से भेड़ के कपड़ों में आए, लेकिन अंदर की ओर वे हिंसक भेड़िये हैं [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com&#038;blog=6368286&#038;post=2146&#038;subd=thewordonthewordoffaith&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <strong>कैसे एक सियार की पहचान करने के लिए?</strong></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Jesus warned “” Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.  You will know them by their fruit…”  (Matt.7:15-16).</span> यीशु ने &#8220;&#8221; आप कौन से भेड़ के कपड़ों में आए, लेकिन अंदर की ओर वे हिंसक भेड़िये हैं झूठे भविष्यद्वक्ताओं से सावधान चेतावनी दी. तुम अपने फल के द्वारा उन्हें पता चल जाएगा &#8230; &#8220;(Matt.7 :15-16).</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Apostle Paul also warned:</span> प्रेरित पौलुस को भी चेतावनी दी थी:</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">“I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.  Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.</span> &#8220;मुझे लगता है कि मेरे जाने के बाद पता है, जंगली भेड़ियों में तुम में आएगी और इस झुंड नहीं छोड़ूँगा. अपनी स्वयं की संख्या पुरुषों से भी पैदा करेगा और ताकि उन्हें दूर करने के बाद चेलों को आकर्षित करने के लिए सच बिगाड़ना.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">So be on your guard!</span> तो अपने गार्ड पर हो!</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Remember, I have never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears”  (Acts 20:29-31).</span> याद है, मैं रात दिन आँसू से तुम में से हर एक चेतावनी &#8220;(अधिनियमों 20:29-31) कभी नहीं रोका है.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Before we analyze how to identify a wolf let us make certain facts straight about the wolves that Jesus and Paul are trying to warn us.</span> इससे पहले कि हम कैसे एक सियार को पहचानने के लिए हमें कुछ तथ्यों का विश्लेषण भेड़ियों कि यीशु और पौलुस हमें सचेत करने के लिए कोशिश कर रहे हैं के बारे में सीधे कर दीजिए.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">1.</span> 1.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Obviously Jesus and Paul are not referring to wolves in the animal kingdom but they are comparing human beings who exhibit the characteristics of a wolf.  Likewise sheep here means the members of the body of Christ.</span> जाहिर है यीशु और पौलुस भेड़ियों को जानवरों के साम्राज्य में जिक्र नहीं कर रहे हैं लेकिन वे जो एक सियार की विशेषताओं एक्ज़िबिट मनुष्य की तुलना कर रहे हैं. इसी तरह भेड़ यहाँ मसीह के शरीर के सदस्य है.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">2.</span> 2.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Common sense teaches us that an ordinary believer is not referred to as a wolf in these verses.  These wolves are “Christians” who preach from the Bible and who are usually  in the leadership position.</span> सामान्य ज्ञान है कि एक आम विश्वास करने के लिए इन पंक्तियों में एक भेड़िए के रूप में उल्लेख नहीं है हमें सिखाता है. ये भेड़िये हैं &#8220;जो बाइबिल से उपदेश और जो आमतौर पर नेतृत्व की स्थिति में हैं ईसाई&#8221;.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">3.</span> 3.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">It is also vivid that a ferocious wolf mentioned would kill the flock spiritually even though the sheep could  die physically before their appointed time because of the abuses they go through from these wolves.</span> यह भी विशद है कि एक क्रूर भेड़िया आत्मिक भले ही शारीरिक रूप से वे भेड़ के माध्यम से इन भेड़ियों से जाने को गालियाँ की वजह से अपने नियत समय से पहले मर सकता है झुंड को मारना होगा उल्लेख किया.</span><br />
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</strong><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>Characteristics of a wolf and how they apply to the spiritual wolves today:</strong></span> एक <strong>भेड़िया के अभिलक्षण और कैसे वे आध्यात्मिक भेड़ियों को आज लागू होते हैं:</strong></span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>1.</strong></span> <strong>1.</strong></span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>Wolf looks of prey.</strong></span> <strong>वुल्फ शिकार के दिखता है.</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">They search for prey in packs lead by an alpha male wolf.  We all know these mammon loving prosperity gospel preachers have taken over the airwaves like packs.  They operate like a gang.  The WoF wolves always mention their alpha preachers to frequently.  They quote them frequently and even brag about their associations with them.  Usually the authority of the Bible is superseded by what the alpha wolves teach.  These wolves are masters in proof texting.</span> पैक में शिकार के लिए वे खोज एक अल्फा माले सियार द्वारा सीसा. हम इन सब धन प्यार समृद्धि सुसमाचार प्रचारकों पैक की तरह airwaves संभाल लिया है. वे एक गिरोह की तरह काम करते हैं. WoF भेड़ियों हमेशा अक्सर करने के लिए उनके अल्फा प्रचारकों उल्लेख. वे उन्हें बोली बाइबल की बार बार और भी उनके साथ उनके संगठनों के बारे में शेख़ी. आम तौर पर इस अधिकार का अल्फा भेड़ियों क्या सिखा द्वारा superseded है. ये भेड़िये सबूत texting में विशेषज्ञ हैं.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">They desperately seek supporters and a broader audience.  They do not hesitate to engage in un-biblical fund raising methods to expand their own kingdoms.</span> वे सख्त और व्यापक दर्शकों समर्थकों चाहते हैं. वे संयुक्त राष्ट्र में शामिल करने के लिए बाइबिल निधि अपने राज्य का विस्तार करने के लिए तरीके उठाने में संकोच नहीं करते.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>2.</strong></span> <strong>2.</strong></span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>Wolf snatches a sheep</strong></span> <strong>वुल्फ एक भेड़ छीनती</strong></span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Usually a sheep is snatched when they are feeding on the grass with other sheep.  Here the sheep are snatched from the mainstream orthodox Christianity.   When a sheep is snatched by a wolf we all know they cannot free themselves.  They go into spiritual bondage and once they are snatched they are at the mercy of the prosperity preachers.  They need some external help.</span> आमतौर पर एक भेड़ जब वे दूसरे भेड़ के साथ घास पर खिला रहे हैं छीन लिया है. यहाँ भेड़ को मुख्यधारा से रूढ़िवादी ईसाई धर्म छीन रहे हैं. जब एक भेड़ एक सियार ने हम सभी को वे खुद मुक्त नहीं कर सकते पता छीन लिया है. वे आध्यात्मिक बंधन है और एक बार में जाने वे समृद्धि प्रचारकों की दया पर हैं छीन रहे हैं. वे किसी बाहरी मदद की ज़रूरत है.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">They are deceived basically and a spiritual force of darkness grabs them.  They need to be set free by a real shepherd.</span> वे मूलतः और अंधेरे grabs उनमें से एक आध्यात्मिक शक्ति धोखा कर रहे हैं. वे मुक्त एक असली चरवाहा द्वारा निर्धारित करने की आवश्यकता है.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">I am not trying to say whoever believes in the WoF teaching is demon possessed.  No, not at all.   However they are obviously influenced by the seducing spirits operating through the word of faith minsters.  The process of snatching is forceful and it is never a gentle process.  The prosperity gospel message appears to be authentic and innocent Christians are forcefully plucked out of the mainstream.  They do not have an opportunity to analyze the prosperity message with intellectual honesty and proper Biblical exegesis and henumatics.  The victims are indoctrinated and brainwashed about how to think instead of leaving them to the leading of the Holy Spirit.</span> मैं जो भी इस WoF शिक्षण में राक्षस है कहने की कोशिश नहीं कर रहा हूँ अधीन. नहीं, बिल्कुल नहीं. लेकिन वे स्पष्ट रूप से इस seducing आत्माओं विश्वास minsters के वचन के द्वारा संचालित से प्रभावित हैं. छीनने की प्रक्रिया सशक्त है और यह कभी भी नहीं है एक कोमल प्रक्रिया है. समृद्धि सुसमाचार संदेश प्रामाणिक होने और मासूम जबरदस्ती मुख्य धारा से बाहर plucked हैं ईसाई प्रकट होता है. वे एक मौका बौद्धिक ईमानदारी और उचित बाइबिल टीका और henumatics साथ समृद्धि संदेश का विश्लेषण करने की जरूरत नहीं है. पीड़ितों indoctrinated रहे हैं और के बारे में brainwashed कैसे बदले के बारे में सोच करने के लिए उन्हें छोड़ने के पवित्रा आत्मा की अग्रणी.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">I John 2:27</span> मैं जॉन 2:27</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">“As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him”.</span> &#8220;क्या आप के लिए के रूप में, तुम उसे क्या आप में से जो abides प्राप्त अभिषेक, और आप की कोई जरूरत नहीं करने के लिए किसी को भी तुम्हें सिखाने के लिए है, लेकिन रूप में उनकी अभिषेक सभी चीज़ों के बारे में आपको सिखाता है, और सत्य है और एक झूठ है, और नहीं है जैसा , क्या तुम उसे में पालन &#8220;तुम्हें सिखाया है.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>3.</strong></span> <strong>3.</strong></span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>Wolf kills a sheep</strong></span> <strong>वुल्फ एक भेड़</strong> को मारता है</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Killing is an act of severing the relationship with the rest of the world.  Cessation of communication with the rest of the world is death.  People affected by the prosperity Gospel considers themselves isolated from the rest of the Christian world.  They cannot have regular communication with them.  “Only we have the full light of the truth” and only our leaders preach the full gospel kind of an attitude isolate them from the orthodox Christianity.  The sheep is conditioned to hear from the alpha wolves and their followers and not from God.</span> हत्या शेष दुनिया के साथ संबंधों severing के एक नाटक है. दुनिया के बाकी के साथ संचार की समाप्ति मौत है. लोग समृद्धि इंजील स्वयं ईसाई दुनिया के बाकी से अलग मानती से प्रभावित. वे के साथ नियमित संचार नहीं हो सकता उन्हें. &#8220;सिर्फ हम&#8221; और सच का पूरा प्रकाश है केवल हमारे नेताओं को एक दृष्टिकोण की पूरी तरह सुसमाचार प्रचार के रूढ़िवादी ईसाई धर्म से अलग है. भेड़ भगवान से अल्फा भेड़ियों और उनके अनुयायियों और नहीं से सुनने के लिए अनुकूलित है.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Sheep is affected by on going indoctrination of the WoF teachings which covers the hearer as a dark cloud and isolating from hearing from the Holy Spirit.</span> भेड़ों के द्वारा जो एक काले बादल श्रोता के रूप में शामिल किया गया है और पवित्रा आत्मा से सुनवाई से अलग इस WoF शिक्षाओं के विचार जाने पर प्रभावित है.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">False teachings that are used to excommunicates the sheep from the mainstream include but not limited to Misuse and abuse of Romans 10:9 and 10, Atonement happened in hell, Jesus became literal sin, went to hell and tormented by demons, Jesus was rich (Was He not the richest carpenter in Nazareth and did He not have various branch offices all across Israel?,  He had richest disciples too who even supplied fish to the Chief priest and Jesus had connections in Herod’s palace as well!).  Genuine Spiritual experiences like the miracle of regeneration, assurance of salvation, joy of being forgiven of the past sins, peace with God, love of the word, conviction about sin, judgment and hell, repentance that frees us from dead works are dismissed as  feeling based experiences but extra-Biblical revelations which are the real feeling based experiences which are thought by the alpha wolves are considered legitimate experiences.  The sheep is discouraged to have a life changing encounter with Jesus which results in the supernatural new birth with a definite change in the life but encouraged in participate in feeling based emotionally stirring activities.</span> झूठी शिक्षाओं है कि मुख्य धारा से excommunicates को भेड़ों का उपयोग किया जाता है, लेकिन शामिल दुरूपयोग तक सीमित नहीं है और रोमन 10:9 और 10, महादालत का दुरुपयोग नरक में, यीशु शाब्दिक बन पाप हुआ, भाड़ में गया और राक्षसों द्वारा सताया, यीशु अमीर था ( नासरत में सबसे अमीर बढ़ई वह नहीं था और वह था नहीं इज़राइल सब भर में विभिन्न शाखा कार्यालयों है?, वह सबसे अमीर चेले भी जो भी मुख्य पुजारी और यीशु के लिए मछली की आपूर्ति की थी और साथ!) हेरोदेस का महल में संपर्क किया था. आध्यात्मिक वास्तविक पुनर्जनन का चमत्कार, उद्धार का आश्वासन की खुशी तरह के अनुभवों ने पिछले पापों, भगवान, वो मर चुका कार्यों से हमें मुक्त शब्द, पाप, न्याय और नर्क, पश्चाताप के बारे में विश्वास के कारण प्रेम के साथ शांति की भावना पर आधारित अनुभव के रूप में खारिज हो माफ किया जा रहा लेकिन जो असली लग रहा है जो अल्फा भेड़ियों द्वारा वैध अनुभवों पर विचार कर रहे हैं सोचा हैं अनुभवों पर आधारित हैं अतिरिक्त-बाइबिल रहस्योद्घाटन. भेड़ एक जीवन यीशु के साथ जो कि अलौकिक नए जन्म में जीवन में एक निश्चित परिणाम बदलने के साथ मुठभेड़ में बदलाव के लिए निराश है लेकिन भाग में भावनात्मक रूप से गतिविधियों आलोड़न आधारित महसूस में प्रोत्साहित किया.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">There are 2 important ways that the sheep is killed.  One is gradual process.  These wolves need to have some sheep alive to supply their needs.  The other one is instant process.  Once the sheep is deemed uselss to their ministry they are disqualified which is the equivalent of physical killing.</span> इसमें 2 महत्वपूर्ण तरीके कि भेड़ों को मार डाला है. एक क्रमिक प्रक्रिया है. ये भेड़िये कुछ भेड़ उनकी आवश्यकताओं की आपूर्ति को जिंदा करने की जरूरत है. दूसरा एक पल की प्रक्रिया है. एक बार भेड़ वे जो है निरर्हित हैं उनके मंत्रालय को uselss समझा जाता है भौतिक हत्या के बराबर.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>4.</strong></span> <strong>4.</strong></span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>Wolf eats a sheep.</strong></span> <strong>वुल्फ एक भेड़ खाती है.</strong></span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">This is the most exiting part in the entire process.  A wolf being a carnivore always considers a sheep, a herbivore as a food source.  In order to survive and live a wolf needs prey.  Therefore they constantly eat killed sheep.  They consider sheeps to be resources (food sources) to live a luxurious life.  A freshly killed sheep brings immense joy to the wolves and the freshly killed sheep is also shared with their fellow wolves and when a sheep is freshly killed all wolves rejoice like this “Ha ha ha, a millionaire got saved, this member has a political connection, he has his own jet plane etc.,)</span> यह पूरी प्रक्रिया में सबसे बाहर निकलने हिस्सा है. हमेशा एक भेड़, एक खाद्य स्रोत के रूप में एक herbivore समझता एक सियार एक मांसभक्षी जा रहा है. आदेश में जीवित रहने के लिए और एक भेड़िया शिकार रहने की जरूरत है. इसलिए वे लगातार भेड़ों को मार डाला खाओ. वे sheeps करने पर विचार एक विलासितापूर्ण जीवन जीने के लिए संसाधनों (खाद्य स्रोतों) हो. हौसले से एक को मार डाला भेड़ भेड़ियों और बेहद खुशी लाता के हौसले को मारा भेड़ों को भी अपने साथी के साथ भेड़ियों और साझा किया जाता है जब एक भेड़ हौसले सब भेड़िये को मार डाला जाता है इस तरह से आनन्दित &#8220;हा हा हा , एक करोड़पति, यह सदस्य एक राजनीतिक संबंध है बच गया, वह) अपने स्वयं के जेट विमान आदि है</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>5.</strong></span> <strong>5.</strong></span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>Wolf has no intention to feed the sheep.</strong></span> <strong>वुल्फ ने भेड़ फ़ीड करने के लिए कोई इरादा नहीं है.</strong></span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Since a wolf always considers sheep as a resource they do not feed them.  How can a herbivore be fed by a carnivore?</span> चूंकि एक भेड़िया वे हमेशा उन्हें फ़ीड नहीं है एक संसाधन के रूप में भेड़ समझता है. कैसे एक herbivore एक मांसभक्षी द्वारा खिलाया जा सकता है?</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Spiritual food comes from the Holy Spirit quickening a particular scripture and makes it available to our human spirits.</span> आध्यात्मिक भोजन पवित्रा आत्मा से एक विशेष धार्मिक ग्रंथ स्पन्दन आता है और यह हमारे मानव आत्माओं के लिए उपलब्ध बनाता है.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">We cannot be spiritually fed by listening to WoF tapes or reading their books.  Since WoF preachers substitute positive confessions to force the Sovereign God to release miracles the victims do not take time to listen to the Holy Spirit.</span> हम आत्मिक WoF टेप सुनने या उनकी किताबें पढ़ कर खिलाया नहीं किया जा सकता है. चूंकि WoF प्रचारकों प्रभु परमेश्वर ने पीड़ितों समय नहीं लेते चमत्कार की रिहाई के लिए मजबूर करने के लिए सकारात्मक बयान स्थानापन्न पवित्रा आत्मा सुनने के लिए.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Many Christians are deceived by the false teachings of Rhema and consider unleavened teachings as their spiritual food but they don’t realize that all these teachings are designed to get their seed offerings to keep the wolves alive.  For example how many of you have ever heard a prosperity preacher teaching about humility, cross carrying, discipleship, crucifying self, justification and other Biblical themes.  Indoctrination is not feeding!</span> कई ईसाई Rhema की झूठी शिक्षाओं से धोखा कर रहे हैं और उनके विचार आध्यात्मिक भोजन के रूप में शिक्षाओं अखमीरी लेकिन वे कहते हैं कि इन सब उपदेशों को बीज प्रसाद ने भेड़ियों को जीवित रखने के लिए प्राप्त करने के लिए डिज़ाइन कर रहे हैं एहसास नहीं है. उदाहरण आप कैसे के कई के लिए कभी सुना है विनम्रता के बारे में एक समृद्धि उपदेशक शिक्षण,, शिष्यत्व पेट, आत्म, औचित्य और अन्य विषयों बाइबिल crucifying पार. भरोसा खिला नहीं है!</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">These topics are indeed mentioned by prosperity preachers only incidental remarks and not as a subject matter.   The prosperity preachers feed into the sheep’s ego.</span> इन विषयों वास्तव में एक विषय के रूप में समृद्धि प्रचारकों केवल संयोग टिप्पणियों और नहीं द्वारा वर्णित हैं. समृद्धि के प्रचारकों की भेड़ के अहंकार में खिलाओ.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>6.</strong></span> <strong>6.</strong></span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>Wolf has no intention to protect the sheep.</strong></span> <strong>वुल्फ कोई इरादा नहीं भेड़ों को बचाने के लिए किया है.</strong></span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">When tragedy strike the sheep oftentimes these wolves are unavailable to their flock.  They sheep is told that their minister had to meet an alpha wolf in a particular place or attend a WoF or they are too busy in talking to a congressman, senator or other government officials.  They even resent if a member of their congregation desperately needs them while they are on luxurious vacation trips.</span> जब भेड़ इन भेड़ियों उनके झुंड के लिए अनुपलब्ध हैं त्रासदी हड़ताल बहुधा. वे भेड़ कि उनके मंत्री को एक विशेष स्थान पर एक अल्फा सियार को पूरा करने के लिए या एक WoF में शामिल है या वे भी एक कांग्रेसमेन, सीनेटर या अन्य सरकार से बात करने में व्यस्त रहे थे कहा जाता है अधिकारी. वे भी विरोध करते हुए वे शानदार छुट्टी यात्रा पर हैं, अगर उनकी मण्डली के सदस्य उन्हें सख्त जरूरत है.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Even if they happen to establish contact the wolves they are told to utter certain positive confessions, accused of lacking in faith, yielding to fear, believing mind instead of believing in heart, worrying about lying symptoms and so on.</span> यहाँ तक कि यदि वे बिल्कुल कुछ सकारात्मक बयान के लिए कहा है भेड़ियों, विश्वास में कमी का आरोप संपर्क स्थापित करने के लिए, डर से बेदखल करने के लिए, के बजाय दिमाग विश्वास दिल में विश्वास है, और इतना पर लक्षण झूठ के बारे में चिंता हो.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>7.</strong></span> <strong>7.</strong></span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>Sheep are scattered once they spot a wolf in action.</strong></span> <strong>भेड़ एक बार वे कार्रवाई में एक भेड़िया जगह बिखरे हुए हैं.</strong></span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Once someone is exposed and identified as a wolf the sheep is scattered and lose interest in things after God.  Some of them even detest Christianity.  Steve Lambert explains this vividly in his amazing book “Charismatic Captivation”.</span> एक बार जब किसी को खुल रहा है और भेड़ बिखर जाता है और परमेश्वर के बाद चीजों में दिलचस्पी खो एक भेड़िया के रूप में पहचान की. उनमें से कुछ भी घृणा ईसाइयत. स्टीव Lambert इस vividly अपने अद्भुत किताब &#8220;करिश्माई Captivation में&#8221; बताते हैं.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>8.</strong></span> <strong>8.</strong></span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>Wolf does not treat a sheep gently.</strong></span> <strong>वुल्फ धीरे एक भेड़ का इलाज नहीं है.</strong></span></p>
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<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">We all have different levels of faith.  New converts have are not matured to know certain Spiritual truths and they need milk.  However the prosperity preachers make condemning statements like “Oh you don’t have faith and that was the reason you are not healed”, come and confess openly in the platform that you are healed by the stripes of Jesus even you are still sick, if you hesitate to confess that you are still sick then you are walking by feelings etc.,  So innocents believers especially new converts are so confused by their arrogant way of commanding them.  These wolves often have a pushy personality which helps them to force their victims to utter un-biblical positive confessions which do not touch the reality.  Bible talks a lot about the power of proclamations and Jesus is called as  the Chief priest of our confession.</span> कुछ आध्यात्मिक सत्य जानने के लिए परिपक्व नहीं कर रहे हैं हम सभी विश्वास के विभिन्न स्तरों पर है. नई धर्मान्तरित किया है और वे दूध की जरूरत है. लेकिन समृद्धि प्रचारकों &#8220;अरे तुम विश्वास नहीं है और है कि आप&#8221; ठीक नहीं कर रहे हैं इस कारण था जैसे बयानों की निंदा करने , आओ और खुले मंच है कि आप यीशु के धारियों ने भी आप अभी भी बीमार हैं चंगा में स्वीकार कर रहे हैं, अगर आपको लगता है कि आप अभी भी तो तुम भावनाओं से, निर्दोष तो आदि चल रहे हैं बीमार हैं स्वीकार करने के लिए संकोच खासकर नए धर्मान्तरित विश्वासियों इसलिए कर रहे हैं उन्हें कमान के अपने अभिमानी तरह से भ्रमित. अक्सर जो उन्हें अपने शिकार को कहा जाता है जो संयुक्त राष्ट्र के बिल्कुल. बाइबल घोषणाओं की शक्ति और यीशु के बारे में बहुत बातें की वास्तविकता छूना मत बाइबिल सकारात्मक बयान करने के लिए मजबूर करने में मदद करता है एक pushy व्यक्तित्व हैं ये भेड़िये हमारे बयान के मुख्य पुजारी के रूप में.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">(Heb 3:1).  In stead of teaching the flock to utter positive confessions in the right way they apply force and their deceived followers are forced to think God as a heavenly wending machine.</span> (Heb 3:1). बिल्कुल सकारात्मक बयान करने के लिए वे और शक्ति लागू उनके अनुयायियों धोखा सोचने के लिए मजबूर कर रहे हैं सही रास्ते में झुंड अध्यापन के बजाए परमेश्वर एक स्वर्गीय wending मशीन के रूप में.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>9.</strong></span> <strong>9.</strong></span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>Wolf considers itself as a different class (elitism) from the sheep.</strong></span> <strong>वुल्फ एक अलग वर्ग की भेड़ों से (elitism) के रूप में ही मानता है.</strong></span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">A carnivore cannot hangout with a herbivore.  Wolves led by their alpha wolves considers themselves above their flock.  Only they can pray, preach and prophecy.  Purveyors of truth.  Only Rhema trained ministers can rule the Church and make all decisions.</span> एक मांसभक्षी एक herbivore के साथ मुलाक़ात की जगह नहीं कर सकते. भेड़िये अपनी अल्फा भेड़ियों के नेतृत्व में उनके झुंड के ऊपर स्वयं को समझता है. केवल वे प्रार्थना कर सकते हैं उपदेश और भविष्यवाणी. सच्चाई का Purveyors. चर्च पर राज कर सकते हैं और सभी फैसले केवल Rhema प्रशिक्षित मंत्रियों.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Only the super rich and major financiers to the preachers enterprise can get a glimpse of their inner circle.</span> प्रचारकों के उद्यम के लिए केवल सुपर अमीर और प्रमुख वित्तपोषक उनकी अंदरूनी सर्कल की एक झलक मिल सकती है.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">One of the Church fathers’ Justin Martyr says that in the early Church pastors (in plural) used to be friends of the poor and  they used to be the bridges between the wealthy Christians and the poor Christians.</span> एक चर्च पिता &#8216;जस्टिन शहीद का कहना है कि जल्दी चर्च pastors बहुवचन () में गरीबों का दोस्त हुआ करता था और वे अमीर ईसाई और गरीब ईसाइयों के बीच का पुल हुआ करता था.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>10.</strong></span> <strong>10.</strong></span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>Sheep cannot have fellowship with a wolf (communication).</strong></span> <strong>भेड़ एक भेड़िया (संचार) के साथ सहभागिता नहीं कर सकते हैं.</strong></span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Watchman Nee in his “The Release of the Spirit” book clearly illustrates this.  The victims know inwardly that something mysterious is repelling them from their leaders.  One creed and confession says they believe in the communion of saints but in Rhema circles people realize that they cannot have communion with the spirits of their minsters.</span> चौकीदार Nee अपनी &#8216;रिलीज आत्मा की &#8220;पुस्तक में स्पष्ट रूप से यह illustrates. पीड़ितों अंतरात्मा में है कि कुछ रहस्यमय उनके नेताओं से उन्हें repelling है. एक सम्प्रदाय और बयान वे संतों के अधिकार में है लेकिन विश्वास में Rhema हलकों का एहसास लोगों का कहना है कि वे उनके minsters की आत्माओं के साथ समन्वय नहीं हो सकता.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">I John 1:7 “but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin”.</span> मैं जॉन 1:7 &#8220;लेकिन के रूप में वह खुद को हल्के में है अगर हम लाइट में चलना है, हम एक दूसरे के साथ है, और यीशु के लोहू उसका बेटा फैलोशिप है सब पाप से&#8221; हमें शुद्ध.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>11.</strong></span> <strong>11.</strong></span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>Sheep affected by wolves need special care.</strong></span> <strong>भेड़ भेड़ियों से प्रभावित विशेष देखभाल की जरूरत है.</strong></span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Again I strongly recommend Steve Lambert’s book “Charismatic Captivation”.  Sheep who are set free from the Rhema captivation are affected in various degrees.</span> फिर मैं दृढ़ता से जो मुफ्त में Rhema captivation से विभिन्न डिग्री में प्रभावित हो रहे हैं स्टीव Lambert की पुस्तक &#8220;करिश्माई Captivation&#8221;. भेड़ की सलाह देते हैं.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Some of them are severely abused and disappointed.  They need special prayers by committed intercessory prayer warriors.</span> उनमें से कुछ गंभीर का दुरुपयोग कर रहे हैं और निराश. वे प्रतिबद्ध हिमायत का प्रार्थना योद्धाओं द्वारा विशेष प्रार्थना की जरूरत है.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>How does a wolf wear sheep’s clothing?</strong></span> <strong>कैसे एक सियार पहनने</strong> के <strong>कपड़े भेड़</strong> है?</span></p>
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<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">These wolves appears to feed the sheep by preaching the from the word of God and wish them well.  They present themselves as the “full Gospel” preachers.  They still need to “feed” the sheep because they need on-going support from them.  Only when the sheep is perceived to be useless it will be killed (disqualified).  So in order to continuously “feed” the sheep and get new victims they need to wear clothes.</span> इन भेड़ियों को परमेश्वर का वचन से और अच्छी तरह से उन्हें इच्छा उपदेश से भेड़ फ़ीड करने के लिए प्रकट होता है. वे &#8220;पूरा इंजील&#8221; प्रचारकों के रूप में स्वयं को प्रस्तुत करते हैं. क्योंकि वे पर जरूरत से उन्हें समर्थन जा वे अभी भी &#8220;&#8221; को भेड़ फ़ीड करने की जरूरत है. केवल जब भेड़ अनुभव है () निरर्हित मारा होगा बेकार होगा. तो में आदेश लगातार &#8220;&#8221; भेड़ों फ़ीड करने के लिए और वे कपड़े पहनने की जरूरत है नए शिकार हो जाओ.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;"><strong>Some of the clothes:</strong></span> <strong>कुछ कपड़े की:</strong></span></p>
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<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">a.</span> a.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">The cloth that is called as the right doctrine appearing as part of the Orthodox Christianity.</span> कि सही सिद्धांत के रूढ़िवादी ईसाई धर्म के हिस्से के रूप में प्रदर्शित होने के रूप में बुलाया है कपड़ा.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">b.</span> ज.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Parading their achievements like supporting an orphanage in a 3rd world country or helping a poor community.  (Jesus said let you left hand not know what your right hand do and not to parade ourselves)</span> एक 3. दुनिया देश में एक अनाथालय का समर्थन या एक गरीब समुदाय की मदद करने. (यीशु ने कहा कि जैसे उनकी उपलब्धियों Parading आप अपने दाहिने हाथ और परेड खुद) क्या नहीं पता नहीं हाथ छोड़ दो</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">c.</span> c.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Use of humor</span> हास्य का प्रयोग</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">d.</span> मृ.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Appear to be interested in the well being of the followers.  Wealth wishers disguised as well wishers.</span> प्रकट की तरह अनुयायियों की जा रही है. दौलत wishers रूप शुभचिंतकों भेष में दिलचस्पी होगी.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">e.</span> e.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Bragging about their connections with top government officials, politicians and other celebrities (just to impress people that their message is authentic)</span> शीर्ष सरकारी अधिकारियों, नेताओं और अन्य हस्तियों के साथ उनके संबंध के बारे में डींग मारने (बस) लोगों का मानना है कि उनके संदेश प्रामाणिक है प्रभावित करने के लिए</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">f.</span> f.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Twisting their tongues with different accents (imitate the alpha wolves).</span> अलग दिन के साथ अपनी जीभ घुमा () ने अल्फा भेड़िये की नकल.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">g.</span> जी</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Use of Apologetic/defending faith.</span> का प्रयोग करें अफसोस की / विश्वास बचाव.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">h.</span> एच.</span> <span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Doing acts of kindness in front of others but their out bursts of anger is well known among their close followers.</span> लेकिन दूसरों के सामने दयालुता के कृत्य करना गुस्से का bursts उनके बाहर अच्छी तरह से उनके पास अनुयायियों के बीच में जाना जाता है.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Even though this articles primarily focuses on the word of faith side, it does not mean other organizations or denominations do not have wolves among them.</span> हालांकि इस लेख मुख्यतः विश्वास का वचन पक्ष पर केंद्रित है, यह उन भेड़ियों के बीच में नहीं है अन्य संगठनों या मूल्यवर्ग इसका यह मतलब नहीं है.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">A wolf can even be in a missionary organization or a in a charitable organization.</span> एक सियार भी एक एक मिशनरी या संगठन में एक धर्मार्थ संगठन में हो सकता है.</span></p>
<p><span><span class="google-src-text" style="direction:ltr;text-align:left;">Don’t use the touch not the anointed  concept to live in a state of denial.  We are all God anointed and priests.  Jesus commended  a revelation church for spotting false apostle (Revelation 2:6).  Also it does not mean some one prophesised and the prophecy did not come to pass.  NO.    Let us be on guard and warn others about the wolves.  We are accountable to God.</span> इनकार के एक राज्य में रहने के लिए अभिषेक किया अवधारणा को हाथ मत का उपयोग न करें. हम सब भगवान का अभिषेक किया और याजकों. यीशु (रहस्योद्घाटन 2:6) झूठे प्रेरित खोलना करने के लिए एक रहस्योद्घाटन चर्च की सराहना कर रहे हैं. साथ ही यह किसी एक prophesised इसका मतलब यह नहीं है और भविष्यवाणी पारित करने के लिए नहीं आया था. NO हमें सावधान रहना और भेड़ियों के बारे में दूसरों को सचेत करते हैं.. हम भगवान के लिए जवाबदेह हैं.</span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[How to identify a wolf?  http://blabitandgrabit.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/how-to-identify-a-wolf/ Jesus warned &#8220;&#8221; Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep&#8217;s clothing but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.  You will know them by their fruit&#8230;&#8221;  (Matt.7:15-16). Apostle Paul also warned: &#8220;I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com&#038;blog=6368286&#038;post=2125&#038;subd=thewordonthewordoffaith&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:center;"><strong>How to identify a wolf?  <a href="http://blabitandgrabit.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/how-to-identify-a-wolf/">http://blabitandgrabit.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/how-to-identify-a-wolf/</a></strong></p>
<p>Jesus warned &#8220;&#8221; Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep&#8217;s clothing but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.  You will know them by their fruit&#8230;&#8221;  (Matt.7:15-16).</p>
<p>Apostle Paul also warned:</p>
<p>&#8220;I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.  Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember, I have never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears&#8221;  (Acts 20:29-31).</p>
<p>Before we analyze how to identify a wolf let us make certain facts straight about the wolves that Jesus and Paul are trying to warn us.</p>
<p>1. Obviously Jesus and Paul are not referring to wolves in the animal kingdom but they are comparing human beings who exhibit the characteristics of a wolf.  Likewise sheep here means the members of the body of Christ.</p>
<p>2. Common sense teaches us that an ordinary believer is not referred to as a wolf in these verses.  These wolves are &#8220;Christians&#8221; who preach from the Bible and who are usually  in the leadership position.</p>
<p>3. It is also vivid that a ferocious wolf mentioned would kill the flock spiritually even though the sheep could  die physically before their appointed time because of the abuses they go through from these wolves.<br />
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Characteristics of a wolf and how they apply to the spiritual wolves today:</strong></p>
<p><strong>1. Wolf looks of prey.</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">They search for prey in packs lead by an alpha male wolf.  We all know these mammon loving prosperity gospel preachers have taken over the airwaves like packs.  They operate like a gang.  The WoF wolves always mention their alpha preachers to frequently.  They quote them frequently and even brag about their associations with them.  Usually the authority of the Bible is superseded by what the alpha wolves teach.  These wolves are masters in proof texting. They desperately seek supporters and a broader audience.  They do not hesitate to engage in un-biblical fund raising methods to expand their own kingdoms.</p>
<p><strong>2. Wolf snatches a sheep</strong></p>
<p>Usually a sheep is snatched when they are feeding on the grass with other sheep.  Here the sheep are snatched from the mainstream orthodox Christianity.   When a sheep is snatched by a wolf we all know they cannot free themselves.  They go into spiritual bondage and once they are snatched they are at the mercy of the prosperity preachers.  They need some external help. They are deceived basically and a spiritual force of darkness grabs them.  They need to be set free by a real shepherd. I am not trying to say whoever believes in the WoF teaching is demon possessed.  No, not at all.   However they are obviously influenced by the seducing spirits operating through the word of faith minsters.  The process of snatching is forceful and it is never a gentle process.  The prosperity gospel message appears to be authentic and innocent Christians are forcefully plucked out of the mainstream.  They do not have an opportunity to analyze the prosperity message with intellectual honesty and proper Biblical exegesis and henumatics.  The victims are indoctrinated and brainwashed about how to think instead of leaving them to the leading of the Holy Spirit.</p>
<p>I John 2:27</p>
<p>&#8220;As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong>3. Wolf kills a sheep</strong></p>
<p>Killing is an act of severing the relationship with the rest of the world.  Cessation of communication with the rest of the world is death.  People affected by the prosperity Gospel considers themselves isolated from the rest of the Christian world.  They cannot have regular communication with them.  &#8220;Only we have the full light of the truth&#8221; and only our leaders preach the full gospel kind of an attitude isolate them from the orthodox Christianity.  The sheep is conditioned to hear from the alpha wolves and their followers and not from God. Sheep is affected by on going indoctrination of the WoF teachings which covers the hearer as a dark cloud and isolating from hearing from the Holy Spirit. False teachings that are used to excommunicates the sheep from the mainstream include but not limited to Misuse and abuse of Romans 10:9 and 10, Atonement happened in hell, Jesus became literal sin, went to hell and tormented by demons, Jesus was rich (Was He not the richest carpenter in Nazareth and did He not have various branch offices all across Israel?,  He had richest disciples too who even supplied fish to the Chief priest and Jesus had connections in Herod&#8217;s palace as well!).  Genuine Spiritual experiences like the miracle of regeneration, assurance of salvation, joy of being forgiven of the past sins, peace with God, love of the word, conviction about sin, judgment and hell, repentance that frees us from dead works are dismissed as  feeling based experiences but extra-Biblical revelations which are the real feeling based experiences which are thought by the alpha wolves are considered legitimate experiences.  The sheep is discouraged to have a life changing encounter with Jesus which results in the supernatural new birth with a definite change in the life but encouraged in participate in feeling based emotionally stirring activities.</p>
<p>There are 2 important ways that the sheep is killed.  One is gradual process.  These wolves need to have some sheep alive to supply their needs.  The other one is instant process.  Once the sheep is deemed uselss to their ministry they are disqualified which is the equivalent of physical killing.</p>
<p><strong>4. Wolf eats a sheep.</strong></p>
<p>This is the most exiting part in the entire process.  A wolf being a carnivore always considers a sheep, a herbivore as a food source.  In order to survive and live a wolf needs prey.  Therefore they constantly eat killed sheep.  They consider sheeps to be resources (food sources) to live a luxurious life.  A freshly killed sheep brings immense joy to the wolves and the freshly killed sheep is also shared with their fellow wolves and when a sheep is freshly killed all wolves rejoice like this &#8220;Ha ha ha, a millionaire got saved, this member has a political connection, he has his own jet plane etc.,)</p>
<p><strong>5. Wolf has no intention to feed the sheep.</strong></p>
<p>Since a wolf always considers sheep as a resource they do not feed them.  How can a herbivore be fed by a carnivore? Spiritual food comes from the Holy Spirit quickening a particular scripture and makes it available to our human spirits. We cannot be spiritually fed by listening to WoF tapes or reading their books.  Since WoF preachers substitute positive confessions to force the Sovereign God to release miracles the victims do not take time to listen to the Holy Spirit. Many Christians are deceived by the false teachings of Rhema and consider unleavened teachings as their spiritual food but they don&#8217;t realize that all these teachings are designed to get their seed offerings to keep the wolves alive.  For example how many of you have ever heard a prosperity preacher teaching about humility, cross carrying, discipleship, crucifying self, justification and other Biblical themes.  Indoctrination is not feeding!</p>
<p>These topics are indeed mentioned by prosperity preachers only incidental remarks and not as a subject matter.   The prosperity preachers feed into the sheep&#8217;s ego.</p>
<p><strong>6. Wolf has no intention to protect the sheep.</strong></p>
<p>When tragedy strike the sheep oftentimes these wolves are unavailable to their flock.  They sheep is told that their minister had to meet an alpha wolf in a particular place or attend a WoF or they are too busy in talking to a congressman, senator or other government officials.  They even resent if a member of their congregation desperately needs them while they are on luxurious vacation trips. Even if they happen to establish contact the wolves they are told to utter certain positive confessions, accused of lacking in faith, yielding to fear, believing mind instead of believing in heart, worrying about lying symptoms and so on.</p>
<p><strong>7. Sheep are scattered once they spot a wolf in action.</strong></p>
<p>Once someone is exposed and identified as a wolf the sheep is scattered and lose interest in things after God.  Some of them even detest Christianity.  Steve Lambert explains this vividly in his amazing book &#8220;Charismatic Captivation&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong>8. Wolf does not treat a sheep gently.</strong></p>
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<p>We all have different levels of faith.  New converts have are not matured to know certain Spiritual truths and they need milk.  However the prosperity preachers make condemning statements like &#8220;Oh you don&#8217;t have faith and that was the reason you are not healed&#8221;, come and confess openly in the platform that you are healed by the stripes of Jesus even you are still sick, if you hesitate to confess that you are still sick then you are walking by feelings etc.,  So innocents believers especially new converts are so confused by their arrogant way of commanding them.  These wolves often have a pushy personality which helps them to force their victims to utter un-biblical positive confessions which do not touch the reality.  Bible talks a lot about the power of proclamations and Jesus is called as  the Chief priest of our confession. (Heb 3:1).  In stead of teaching the flock to utter positive confessions in the right way they apply force and their deceived followers are forced to think God as a heavenly wending machine.</p>
<p><strong>9. Wolf considers itself as a different class (elitism) from the sheep.</strong></p>
<p>A carnivore cannot hangout with a herbivore.  Wolves led by their alpha wolves considers themselves above their flock.  Only they can pray, preach and prophecy.  Purveyors of truth.  Only Rhema trained ministers can rule the Church and make all decisions. Only the super rich and major financiers to the preachers enterprise can get a glimpse of their inner circle. One of the Church fathers&#8217; Justin Martyr says that in the early Church pastors (in plural) used to be friends of the poor and  they used to be the bridges between the wealthy Christians and the poor Christians.</p>
<p><strong>10. Sheep cannot have fellowship with a wolf (communication).</strong></p>
<p>Watchman Nee in his &#8220;The Release of the Spirit&#8221; book clearly illustrates this.  The victims know inwardly that something mysterious is repelling them from their leaders.  One creed and confession says they believe in the communion of saints but in Rhema circles people realize that they cannot have communion with the spirits of their minsters.</p>
<p>I John 1:7 &#8220;but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong>11. Sheep affected by wolves need special care.</strong></p>
<p>Again I strongly recommend Steve Lambert&#8217;s book &#8220;Charismatic Captivation&#8221;.  Sheep who are set free from the Rhema captivation are affected in various degrees. Some of them are severely abused and disappointed.  They need special prayers by committed intercessory prayer warriors.</p>
<p><strong>How does a wolf wear sheep&#8217;s clothing?</strong></p>
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<p>These wolves appears to feed the sheep by preaching the from the word of God and wish them well.  They present themselves as the &#8220;full Gospel&#8221; preachers.  They still need to &#8220;feed&#8221; the sheep because they need on-going support from them.  Only when the sheep is perceived to be useless it will be killed (disqualified).  So in order to continuously &#8220;feed&#8221; the sheep and get new victims they need to wear clothes.</p>
<p><strong>Some of the clothes:</strong></p>
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<p>a. The cloth that is called as the right doctrine appearing as part of the Orthodox Christianity.</p>
<p>b. Parading their achievements like supporting an orphanage in a 3rd world country or helping a poor community.  (Jesus said let you left hand not know what your right hand do and not to parade ourselves)</p>
<p>c. Use of humor</p>
<p>d. Appear to be interested in the well being of the followers.  Wealth wishers disguised as well wishers.</p>
<p>e. Bragging about their connections with top government officials, politicians and other celebrities (just to impress people that their message is authentic)</p>
<p>f. Twisting their tongues with different accents (imitate the alpha wolves).</p>
<p>g. Use of Apologetic/defending faith.</p>
<p>h. Doing acts of kindness in front of others but their out bursts of anger is well known among their close followers.</p>
<p>Even though this articles primarily focuses on the word of faith side, it does not mean other organizations or denominations do not have wolves among them.</p>
<p>A wolf can even be in a missionary organization or a in a charitable organization.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t use the touch not the anointed  concept to live in a state of denial.  We are all God anointed and priests.  Jesus commended  a revelation church for spotting false apostle (Revelation 2:6).  Also it does not mean some one prophesised and the prophecy did not come to pass.  NO.    Let us be on guard and warn others about the wolves.  We are accountable to God.</p>
<p>Another Excellent Article About &#8220;Wolf in Sheep&#8217;s Clothing&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.denniscramer.net/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=12&amp;Itemid=8">http://www.denniscramer.net/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=12&amp;Itemid=8</a></p>
<p>Copy Right: Dennis Cramer Ministries &#8211; Article written by Prophet Dennis Cramer.</p>
<p>The Bible warns us to be on our guard against wolves.</p>
<div>&#8220;I know that after I leave, savage <strong>wolves</strong> will come in among you and will not spare the flock.  Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember, I have never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears&#8221;  (Acts 20:29-31).</div>
<div>Years ago the Lord  prophetically warned me of a wolf who was about to enter my life and ministry.</div>
<div>&#8221; Denny, if you join with this man, he will rob you of your congregation for his heart and his mind are not joined with yours. He is a deceptive man, and he will cleverly deceive the congregation to undermine you and your ministry, twisting and distorting even the most innocent words and actions to make you appear as the evil one rather than himself.  He is a wolf in sheep&#8217;s clothing.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Bible uses a wolf to symbolize a false minister or teacher.  He is someone greedy for personal gain, who can never have enough, who only looks after himself, who scatters the flock, leads sheep astray, preys upon the flock instead of feeding the flock, a hireling (working primarily for the $$$) not a true shepherd.</p></div>
<div>He misleads people by drawing them to himself instead of drawing them to the heart and rule of God-his outward appearance concealing his inward motives.  A wolf will talk, teach, preach, sing, or act just like a real sheep but his desire or motivation is entirely different.</div>
<div>A wolf thinks only of himself-selfish and destructive.  A true shepherd always puts the sheep first-not last-he lays his life down for the sheep.</p>
<p>A wolf is someone who has not submitted his life to the Lordship of Jesus.  He has sought God for the wrong reasons.  He serves God for what he can get from Him rather than for who He is.  He is an impostor, easily mistaken for a true shepherd until his motives are revealed by his actions.</p></div>
<div>A wolf takes control no matter what it takes- trickery, deceit, manipulation, <span style="border-bottom:1px dashed #0066cc;cursor:pointer;">false doctrine</span>, intimidation, clandestine meetings, power plays, secrecy, planting seeds of distrust, discord, disloyalty, or even spiritual witchcraft-he will use any means available. It is very difficult to identify a wolf by his outward appearance-by what he says or how he looks-a wolf often looks and sounds like a sheep.  Instead, you identify a wolf by what he does or does not do, by his actions.</div>
<div>&#8221; Beware of <span style="border-bottom:1px dashed #0066cc;cursor:pointer;">false prophets</span> who come to you in sheep&#8217;s clothing but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.  You will know them by their fruit&#8230;&#8221;  (Matt.7:15-16).</div>
<div>Fruit speaks of life-style, character, teaching, and influence-his personal history-the mark he leaves on people&#8217;s lives. In addition, a wolf will often lie, steal, gossip, slander, break covenant, be disloyal, violate friendships or trusts, betray or dishonor others, violate confidentialities, ignore biblical guidelines for proper communication between disagreeing Christians, lust, love money, be a poor steward of money, be dishonest, be selfish, be self-important and proud, claim a false ministry or gift, claim an authority in God he doesn&#8217;t possess, self-promote, be worldly, be carnal, be greedy, show outbursts of anger and rage, have a controlling spirit, have no <span>fruit of the Spirit</span>, and most importantly do nothing out of a pure <span>agape love</span> as his motivation-a wolf only knows how to display cold love because by nature he is a predator.</div>
<div>According to the Bible-the dog, fox, bear, and wolf all have negative connotations.</div>
<div>TEXT:  &#8221; Behold, I send you out as sheep among wolves. Therefore, be <span style="border-bottom:1px dashed #0066cc;cursor:pointer;">wise as serpents</span>&#8230;&#8221; ( Matt.10.16 ).  (We should be wise concerning wolves.)</div>
<div>TEXT:  &#8221; After my departure savage (grievous) wolves (notice the nature or characteristic of this type of wolf-savage, grievous) &#8230;will come in among you, not sparing the flock (notice where the wolves are located-among you-among us&#8230;<br />
(notice their recklessness and the danger they pose to the sheep- &#8220;not sparing the sheep&#8221; ) From among yourselves men (notice the wolves are men-probably leaders) will rise up speaking ( a wolf has an unusually big mouth, jaws, teeth)  perverse (misleading) things to draw away disciples after themselves (a wolf always has a personal (not a godly) agenda). Therefore watch and remember I did not cease to warn you (notice this apostolic warning is to Christians) night and day for three years (notice the seriousness of this warning)  (Acts 20:29-31).</div>
<div>TEXT:  &#8221; Beware of false messengers who come to you in sheep&#8217;s clothing (notice their outward appearance-they look like sheep) but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. (notice their inward motivation-meat eaters)  You will know them by their fruit.&#8221;  (Matt.7:15-16). Jesus said their inward motivation will eventually be seen in their actions.</div>
<div><strong>In Review: What Is A Wolf?</strong></div>
<div>According to the Bible there&#8217;s nothing good about a wolf-nothing.  A wolf is a cunning, hostile, marauding animal-intelligent, clever, calculating, an opportunist in the animal kingdom-the arch enemy of sheep.  Jesus used a wolf  (Gk.lukos- weighty one) metaphorically to describe a <span>false prophet</span>, minister, or teacher-a cruel, greedy, destructive person (usually a person in a leadership position)-someone who would oppress and ruin the church.</div>
<div><span>The Bible</span> warns us a wolf often looks and sounds just like the other sheep, (sharing similar outward characteristics only ) spends most of his time around the sheep, (not for fellowship but to size up his prey) but will freely sacrifice the sheep should trouble arise.  Compare this to a true shepherd who will oppose a wolf at the risk and at the cost of his own life.</div>
<div>Most alarmingly of all, a wolf is a carnivore-he loves freshly killed sheep!  A sheep is an herbivore-carnivores and herbivores do not hang out together.   Make no mistake about it-a wolf feeds on sheep-he sees them only as a resource for his selfish purposes-a food source!</div>
<div>A wolf is someone greedy for personal gain, who can never have enough.  He is a hireling (working primarily for the $$$) not a true shepherd (Jn.10:11-13).  His only interest is personal advancement at the expense of others.</div>
<div>A wolf is ruthless and loveless- a &#8221; taker.&#8221;  He openly violates God&#8217;s principles of agape love in I  Cor.13.  Most wolves don&#8217;t know how to love-they&#8217;re just hunters-living for the kill.</div>
<div>A wolf scatters the flock-he&#8217;s not a true leader. His ministry is often characterized by the number of dead sheep left scattered around him. Any contact with a wolf will lead to destruction and eventual death for the sheep.  A wolf only gathers sheep to use them or kill (disqualify) the them. (Jn.10.12)</div>
<div>A wolf leads sheep astray-twisting and distorting the truth. A wolf is often weak theologically, even heretical, and cares little for the orthodoxy of Scripture. His goal is not healthy, well fed (theologically balanced) sheep-but gullible, vulnerable, dependent sheep-mindless, spineless followers. A wolf preys upon the flock instead of feeding the flock-again, a predator!</div>
<div>A wolf misleads people by drawing them to his own personality instead of drawing them to the heart and rule of God-his outward appearance concealing his inward motives. He will talk, teach, preach, sing, or act just like a sheep but his desire or motivation is entirely different.  A wolf possesses a self-important spirit-often boasting of a false gift or ministry.</div>
<div>A wolf looks for quick results that require little sacrifice-impatient, impulsive, immature, premature in all they do-he&#8217;s an aggressive animal-a pushy personality, often displaying erratic behavior.</div>
<div>A wolf thinks only of himself-usually an acutely selfish and self-destructive personality.  Self-preservation is the prime motivation of a wolf.  A wolf is often a betrayer and knows little of relational loyalty.</div>
<div>A wolf is an untrustworthy person-never turn your back on one-never trust a wolf. Jim Jones was a wolf-if a wolf offers you a glass of cool aid-don&#8217;t accept it!</div>
<div><strong>If a wolf offers you a glass of cool aid-don&#8217;t accept it!</strong></div>
<div>A wolf is someone who has not submitted his life to the Lordship of Jesus.  A wolf is usually an unbroken vessel-lacking genuine authority in God. He will impugn the character of others while totally ignoring his own sins.</div>
<div>A wolf seeks God for the wrong reasons-for what he can get from Him rather than for who He is-a self-promoter, opportunist, a user.</div>
<div>A wolf is an impostor, easily mistaken for a true shepherd until his motives are revealed by his actions, his fruit. (life-style, character, teaching, influence) Never listen to what a wolf says-listen to what he does-look at his track record.</div>
<p>A wolf takes control no matter what it takes- trickery, deceit, manipulation, intimidation, false doctrine, clandestine meetings, power plays, secrecy, planting seeds of distrust, discord, disloyalty, or spiritual witchcraft-he will use any means available.  A wolf thinks nothing of illegal, unethical, or unscriptural behavior.  To a wolf, the end always justifies the means. Left to his own devices a wolf will ultimately destroy any church he leads.</p>
<p><strong>How to identify a man by his fruit?  &#8211; Insightful article by Jeremy Myers</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.tillhecomes.org/Text%20Sermons/Luke/Luke%206%2043-45.htm">http://www.tillhecomes.org/Text%20Sermons/Luke/Luke%206%2043-45.htm</a></p>
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<p><span style="display:inline;">Pastor Jackson Boyett of Dayspring Fellowship interviews Dr. Michael Horton about heretical TV preachers such as Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Paul Crouch, Kenneth Hagin, Robert Tilton, Peter Popoff, Jimmy Swaggart, John Avanzini, and a host of others. Horton is the editor of the book, the Agony of Deceit which is co-authored by Dr. Walter Martin, Dr. R.C. Sproul, Joel Nederhood, C. Everett Coop, Art Lindsley, and others. Dr. Walter Martin has been a frequent guest on the John Ankerberg show and is the founder of the Christian Research Institute. Part 5. Director &#8211; Larry Wessels of Christian Answers. </span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[ANOTHER Jesus! March 12, 2009 http://blabitandgrabit.wordpress.com/2009/03/12/another-jesus/ Apostle Paul writes about ANOTHER Jesus in 2nd Corinthians 11:4 For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully. ANOTHER Jesus?  Who is [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com&#038;blog=6368286&#038;post=1806&#038;subd=thewordonthewordoffaith&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>Apostle Paul writes about ANOTHER Jesus in 2nd Corinthians 11:4</p>
<p><strong>For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1808" title="word-of-faith Jesus" src="http://thewordonthewordoffaith.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/word-of-faith2.gif?w=500" alt="word-of-faith Jesus"   />ANOTHER Jesus?  Who is He?</span></p>
<p>Let us take a look at the Jesus who is preached by the Prosperity preachers!</p>
<p>The Jesus who was very rich when He was in the earth because He had to have a treasurer, supported Himself, 12 disciple and 70 others.  The Jesus who got huge donations from rich women.  He even wore linen clothes which is the mark of being rich in those days.</p>
<p>The Jesus who had rich disciples:  John the beloved disciple supplied sea food to the Chief Priest’s house, Matthew who had a lot of money because he was a tax collector. The Jesus who owned a big house which was big enough to have company stay the night in. The Jesus who had connections with influential people like Nicodemus and the rich Joseph of Arimathea. The Jesus who rebuked sick people for lacking in faith. The Jesus who justifies sinners and gives them eternal life once they believe in Him but still keeps them “unsaved” until they go through the Romans road. The Jesus who never asked to pray to God to cast out demons. The Jesus who always cast out demons with the very first command of His mouth.</p>
<p>The Jesus who did an unfinished work at the cross. The Jesus who went to hell and tormented by demons. The Jesus who is NOT the ONLY begotten Son of God because we are sons of God too. The Jesus who made human beings little “gods”. The Jesus who got dismembered from the Divine Trinity by His Spiritual death. The Jesus who asked the rich young man to sell all his possessions and to sow it as a seed offering into his ministry. The Jesus who discouraged peristent prayers and asked to pray only once because that would reflect the lack of faith.</p>
<p><strong>Hmmm…. This is the Jesus who is preached by our modern day  prosperity preachers.</strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#ff0000;">Is this the Jesus that you and I know?</span></strong></p>
<p>Is this the Jesus who was known by early Christians, Church fathers, Martin Luther, John Huss, William Tyndale, John Wycliffe, John Calvin, John Wesley, Charles Spurgeon, D.L. Moody, George Whitefield, Jonathan Edwards, Watchman Nee and countless other Christians who were jailed, tortured and killed?</p>
<p>NO this Jesus is that ANOTHER Jesus mentioned in 2nd Corinthians 11:4</p>
<p>ANOTHER Jesus, different Gospel and a different spirit &#8211; BEWARE Christians</p>
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<p>References:</p>
<p><strong>Paula White discusses about Jesus with a friend! </strong><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S0zkZ31JSI"><span style="color:#0066cc;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S0zkZ31JSI</span></a></p>
<p><strong>Was Jesus Rich? </strong><a href="http://www.letusreason.org/Wf15.htm"><br />
<span style="color:#0066cc;">http://www.letusreason.org/Wf15.htm</span></a></p>
<p><strong>Why Confess Christ? &#8211; The Use and Abuse of Romans 10:9-10<br />
John F. Hart, Professor of Bible, Moody Bible Institute</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.faithalone.org/journal/1999ii/J23-99b.htm"><span style="color:#0066cc;">http://www.faithalone.org/journal/1999ii/J23-99b.htm</span></a></p>
<p><strong>Atonement Where? &#8211; by Moreno Dal Bello<br />
© 2003 Tricia Tillin of Banner Ministries.</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.intotruth.org/wof/moreno1.html"><span style="color:#0066cc;">http://www.intotruth.org/wof/moreno1.html</span></a></p>
<p>The Believer’s Authority<br />
Kenneth E. Hagin</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[This first episode of ***THE WORD on the Word of Faith GROUP RADIO** was supposed to be an introduction show with myself and my co-host ex-word of faith pastor John Edwards from faith preacher.blogspot.com and junkerjorge1.blogspot.com BUT he had to take care of some stuff and could not be there for the whole show. BUT [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com&#038;blog=6368286&#038;post=1462&#038;subd=thewordonthewordoffaith&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This first episode of <strong>***THE WORD on the Word of Faith GROUP RADIO**</strong> was supposed to be an introduction show with myself and my co-host ex-word of faith pastor John Edwards from faith preacher.blogspot.com and junkerjorge1.blogspot.com</p>
<p>BUT he had to take care of some stuff and could not be there for the whole show. BUT THE LORD IS GOOD</p>
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<p>And our groupblog brother from India, Victor Norman (AKA blabitANDgrabit) from <a href="http://TakeBackChristianity.com">http://TakeBackChristianity.com</a>, called in and finished out the show with the Topic of <a href="http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2009/03/06/word-of-faith-activities-in-india/"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="font-size:medium;color:#0000ff;">Word of Faith Activities In India!</span></span></strong></a> &lt;&lt;- TWotWoF groupblog article here.</p>
<p>THE INTERVIEW WAS GREAT. <strong>One of my favorites!!!!!!!</strong></p>
<p>Victor reiterated many of the things he wrote in his article detailing the WoF invasion and explosion in INDIA. You will here stories of Rhema Bible Training Center BUYING THEIR WAY into India to hold the people hostage to their SEED FAITH LIE. You will here stories of coerced false testimonies of healing and that made Christianity as a while look bad there. Great healing crusades that done noting but harm and fleece. Victopr is a very strong speaker of truth. He describes himself as a reformed charismatic who is an anti-tither.</p>
<p>I mention that the legacy of the Word of faith is death and destroyed lifes. Victor stated something like,,,,,,,,,</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><strong>THE WORD on the Word of Faith: Faithful (WoF) Phil verses Barry the Baptist. A SERIES Part1</strong></p>
<p>I Picked up a little analogy in one of the books I read about the Word of Faith. I thought I may have gotten this analogy from Ron Calrson and Ed Deckers’s BOOK **Fast Facts on False Teachings** prosperity theology chapter. But I may not have.</p>
<p>ANY WAY,,, someone assigned analogous names to describe a statistical comparison of the Word of Faith movement churches and their claim to WALK IN PROSPERITY,, against the same categorical statistics of NON Word of Faith churches. I chose the names Faithful Phil and Barry the Baptist. I am not sure which names the people chose from which I got this analogous concept from.</p>
<p>A survey of Word of Faith church parking lots wAS made, and compared to a survey of NON WoF churches. FAITHFUL PHIL is NO better off than Barry the Baptist, Marty the Methodist, or Perry the Presbyterian. IT”S ALL A LIE FOLKS. The so called prosperity gospel does not work. The conditions of their parking lots and their vehicles are comparably THE SAME. Except WoF ministers generally have nicer cars that their NON WoF counter parts.</p>
<p>Since I picked up this analogy,, I have become like a Ben Stiller movie character was. He played the part of a geeky guy who fell in love with Jennifer Aniston. He was a Statistical Analysis and seen everything in numbers. He always compared this with that,,, by the numbers. He was kinda weird. WELL, so am I now. I am always comparing Faithful Phil to Barry the Baptist. AND THEY AIN’T NO DIFFERENT!!! Except Phil is VERY self deluded.</p>
<p>See I have a “retired” Word of Faith Minister in my family. 15 years of preaching the Word of Faith message got her nothing but a 20yr old doublewide trailer and a 15 year old Chevy s-10. Oh lets not forget the semi-manual labor job at 50+. And my relative is a woman. So it does not appear to me she is doing as well as most 50+ year old woman. I mean do I really have to compare her to a Baptist or a Lutheran to see the WoF is false and does not work,, except at deceiving people into being self deluded. Blinded by their desires. Their desires to be special and have that SUPER kind of Faith. That God kind of faith. NO!!!</p>
<p>Does it sound mean to say that about my relative? If you think so. Know this. She is quick to say she was once a Baptist but now has THE FULL GOSPEL, more than the salvation message and collection plate. SHE SAYS,, She don’t “follow after signs,,, they follow after her“. LOL I am sorry I have to laugh. She has got a husband with a 10 year old transplanted kidney. Yep the WoF did not work enough for her to get her husband HEALED from kidney failure. He got a transplant 10 years ago. Transplanted kidneys only last about 10 years average.</p>
<p>BUT,,, she still claims the WoF message if far superior to that of “Denominational Christians”. Ten years of blind self delusion. WILL IT GET WORSE OR WILL SHE BE HEALED when her husband passes away and the Word of faith message fails her completely. How can she claim the WoF is true when every step she takes is marked by a very dramatic limp. She has a bad hip and that semi manual labor job is whipping her butt.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Now it is really sad that one day her husband will die and she will be left alone to think about this kind of stuff. BUT it is absolutely hilarious that she has a neighbor the same age who is single and raises her grandkid, but she still has a better trailer and nicer car. And works in the AC. WHY don’t she think about these things? The lady goes to a NON WoF church… <strong><span style="font-size:small;font-family:ReservoirGrunge;">BAMMM HERES YOUR SIGN <img class="aligncenter size-thumbnail wp-image-1447" src="http://thewordonthewordoffaith.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/stupid.jpg?w=50&h=50" alt="" width="50" height="50" /></span></strong></p>
<p><strong>If I made any WoF advocates mad with that,, hear this.</strong> Maybe you should compare yourself with the NON WoF Jones&#8217;s</p>
<p>There was a shooting in a Baptist church today. In the second article I read on it had this in it,,,,</p>
<p><strong><em>“Last month, a man shot and killed himself in front of a cross inside televangelist Robert H. Schuller&#8217;s Crystal Cathedral in Garden Grove, Calif” </em></strong><strong><em><a href="http://www.onenewsnow.com/Church/Default.aspx?id=439664"><strong><em><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Baptist pastor murdered during Sunday morning service</span></span></em></strong></a></em></strong></p>
<p>Most people are not studious enough to know that Schuller is WoF all the way. Forgive me for being crass,,, but not only does the WoF NOT work,,, but <strong>Faithful Phil is just as likely to get sick, or commit suicide in a church as anyone else. MAYBE EVEN MORE SO</strong></p>
<p><strong>We will one day be resurrecting Faithful Phil to use again in our analogous comparisons of the WoF churches against the NON WoF churches. Until then,,, just as many WoF people will suffer as NON WoF people will. </strong><em><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>MAYBE EVEN WORSE and in a worse kind of way.</strong></span> Cause the WoF says it is their fault.</em> </p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Word of Faith Activities In India! Many people in America know that the WoF preachers control the Christian TV and radio airwaves to spread their lies.  However many Westerners do not realize the extent of the damages that the WoFers have done in third world countries.  I want to tell the readers in advance that [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com&#038;blog=6368286&#038;post=1347&#038;subd=thewordonthewordoffaith&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>Many people in America know that the WoF preachers control the Christian TV and radio airwaves to spread their lies.  However many Westerners do not realize the extent of the damages that the WoFers have done in third world countries.  I want to tell the readers in advance that no pen or words can appropriately describe the damages that have been caused and are being caused by the WoF heretical teachings in India.  Only heavan knows the full picture about the extent of the damages.   However I will try to describe the WoF activities in my home country of India to the best of my ability.</p>
<p>Whenever a false teaching movement starts in any part of the world, they want to propagate it.   For that to happen they need agents in other countries.   As many of you know most of the third world people live in poverty and foreign currencies are a source of seduction, hence the name almighty dollar!!!.    In the Mid 80’s the dark clouds which had surrounded the Western Christian world started descending into India also.   The WoF poured out thousands of dollars, if not millions of dollars, to lure certain individuals with their deceptive techniques (they essentially bought them out).   This was required to established connections in India, which is how they propagate their teachings.</p>
<p>In India and in other third world countries people are very respectful.   Especially to preachers who are presumed to preach God’s word.    The Indian Word of Faith leaders teachings and life style most often goes unchallenged, because people do not want to “touch the anointed”.     Many wolves in sheep’s clothing’s take advantage of Indian hospitality and start controlling and manipulating people.    Also when prosperity is promised, people are stirred up emotionally and pay attention to these perverts. So the WoF preachers were able to jump start their “ministries” by first going into Radio and most recently in TV and the internet.    For them money is not an issue at all.   The Rhema “Bible Training” Institute, and those of their ilk, are pouring out thousands of dollars, if not millions to support their WoF cronies in India and other parts of the World.</p>
<p>Other Indian Christian denominations and individual ministers started attacking the WoF teachings.   But they made one fatal mistake and that they still make that same mistake: The same ministers who attacked the WoF teachings restricted their role to attacking them in principle only.   But also take huge sums of donations from the WoF ministries.   Also many good Indian ministers married their daughters or sons to WoF preachers.   And as a result of this, the stand against the WoF heresy was quailed, nullified and buried.   These are some of the reasons why the WoF gained momentum in India and still is a menace to my country.   The WoF style of preaching and their ability to attract innocent and unsuspecting people have become the modus operandi for many Indian preachers, who are not WoF.   Therefore in many cases we see WoF-lites!!!.   Many good Indian Christians name their baby boys Kenneth as their first names. (in homage to Kenneth Hagin).   This includes non-WoFer’s too!!!</p>
<p>How the WoF preachers evangelize is an interesting thing.   They do not concentrate on the poor and needy.   But they target college professors, doctors, engineers, lawyers, businessmen and other high income group people.   You might think their target group would be people from other religions.   But unfortunately the truth is these people who are targeted by WoF are Christians from other denominations!!!</p>
<p>This is how a typical WoF soul winning goes: The WoF preachers will establish contacts with wealthy Indian Christians and offer them the “full gospel”!!!   Sir/Madam confess Jesus with your mouth according to Romans 10:9 and you will be saved.   No need to repent or experience a change in your life.   But just a simple confession based on the Romans 10:9 magic formula will save them.   But God only knows what they hope to be saved from by doing this?   This is not the gospel of Christ!   Genuine born again experiences and regeneration are simply dismissed by the WoFers as a “feelings based experience”.   If the people continue to live in the same sins, the WoF would shamelessly say “Oh, salvation is a gradual process!”.   Sounds good but what if a thief goes through a gradual process by gradually giving up his stealing habits.   Or what if after the Romans 10:9 based confession a child molester only molest less and less Children as they “grow” in the Lord There is no conviction about sin or the emphasis on the necessity of repentance.   Then the victims are promised health and wealth as part and parcel of the atonement.   Here is the climax; the WoFer’s then demand of the new Indian converts to sow seeds into their  ministries,  for them to get a hundred fold return.   These innocent victims who just got “saved” in order to inherit the full kingdom blessings, sell their possessions or donate them to the WoF.   Preachers often give them a piece of land, property or their vehicles.   The WoFers then ask their new converts to utter positive confessions regularly in order to possess the promises.   If they still have sickness, these perverts would say that the sick ones do not have enough faith. And if the victims financially suffer again, they are told “encouraging” words like “you should walk by faith and not by sight”, “believe in your heart and not with your mind”,,, etc, etc.    Many victims are still blabbing with their mouths but still not grabbing, confessing but not possessing. May the blab it and grab it Hocus Pocus only appear to work in the West and my people will not be deceived!!!</p>
<p>The WoF preachers frequently go on house visits to these rich Indian Christian houses.   And they let their wives and children hang out with their counter parts.   However they would not do the same to a poor believer’s family.   In the English language the word “you” is neither a respectful term nor a disrespectful term.   It can be used to address an elderly person or a little Child.   However in my language there are separate words for you to use when you are addressing an elderly person or a familiar person like a little kid.   It is disrespectful to use the casual word for you to an elderly person.   The WoFer’s do not hesitate to call poor Christians with the disrespectful you word, regardless of their age.   But they are very cautious to use the respectful word for you to a rich Indian Christian who is a potential donor.   I have seen this with my own eyes because I had a WoF “pastor” live in hometown, even on the same street as me!!!   They look for victims but only rich victims!!!</p>
<p>In India we speak British English with our own flavors.  Americans cannot understand our English unless we speak slowly and we cannot understand the American English either unless it is spoken slowly. However the Indian WoFers deliberately twist their tongues to change their accent to sound like American accent.  Even while singing they do the same. In other words they try to imitate their Rhema counterparts in America.  This is just to impress innocent people to show that they have connections with Western countries. They believe that changing their accents would give them credibility and make their messages part of Christian orthodoxy.  Many poor people were turned off by their elitist mentality because they could not understand their glorified English!!!</p>
<p>I am still longing to see an Indian WoF preacher flying in his own private jet plane.   For more than 20 years they keep blabbing with their mouths.   But are still unable to get even a helicopter!!!    They need to learn the difference between capitalism and socialism and using common sense.    If the prosperity “gospel” works (or appears to work) for Western preachers, why doesn’t it yield the same results for their third world counter-parts?</p>
<p>In the  eighties a Doctor from India got attracted to the WoF teachings. And he took my home state by storm (converting the Christians there to WoF) using his seductive powers and charismatic personality.   He said that he would never get sick.    And he even ridiculed those who were still sick.   He was spearheading the WoF movement in my home state.   Many innocent Christians were deceived by his false teachings.   But in April 1991, thankfully to God he died of a disease.  Several individuals were destroyed by that ferocious wolf.   But in spite of God expressing His disapproval by removing that man from the earth, his followers and relatives never repented. They are still advancing his legacy which was heresy!</p>
<p>Once the WoF movement conducted a massive crusade in India focusing on Divine healing.   Some secular news magazine reporters also attended the meeting to see what was really going on.   The WoF Bible college students used to stand in various places in the crowd and encouraged the sick people to go to the stage and testify about their healings.   When the sick people hesitated they were told not to walk by sight or feelings but by facts, revelation knowledge and not common sense.   These innocent people went to the stage and testified that they got healed while they were still sick.   The secular reporters later interviewed the people who gave their testimony on the platform and found out that they were still sick.   This news got published in a widely read magazine in my language and the name of the Lord was blasphemed.  Our fellow Indians used this to ridicule this as an “imported faith”, mocking and saying yeh right, the blind hear and the deaf see? What a shame! Many people are skeptical about genuine Christianity, healings and miracles because of the activities of these WoF perverts.</p>
<p>I apologize to the readers that I have not quoted any verses from scripture in this article.   God willing I am planning to release a series of articles refuting the WoF teaching.   Including but not limited to the misuse and abuse of Romans 10:9.   Was Jesus tormented in hell?   Is financial prosperity always Gods will?   If someone is sick is it because he or she does not have faith or is in sin?  Positive confession: When and how?   The concept of faith according to WoF compared with Biblical position on Faith.   And many more things about the WoF.   And I promise to quote a lot of Bible verses.</p>
<p>The WoF teachings are like a few drops of poison in a pure glass of milk.  Before our Lord Jesus Christ returns we must do our best to do to purify His body and bride from this monstrously evil movement.</p>
<p>May God help each and every one of you who read this article to play a role in eradicating this cancer from the body of Christ.   Amen!</p>
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